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I don't mean to derail the thread or sound preachy, but the issues at hand (censorship as knee-jerk response/tactic to counter stealing of IP/content) have nothing to do with artists getting famous. In really simplistic terms:

The main problem is that the big media outlets (MPAA-supported movie industry, the mainstream music industry, and even the major videogames publishers and so on) are trying to cling to the same distribution model that worked up until the internet became the widespread media delivery method.

They've refused to change with the times, with the exception being Apple and the iPod/iTunes/iPad media consumption (near)monopolies and some of the more recent Amazon/Kindle devices who have come in and tried to salvage the wreckage.

So basically, the solution (censorship) fails because it doesn't address the actual problem, which is paradigm shift in delivery methodologies as well as changing attitudes/behaviors of the consumers.

Ultimately, the ones who suffer the most are the musicians/game designers/writers/behind-the-scenes people etc. who create and work on the content but rarely get paid what they are worth by the larger distributors.

Sure, there are some Mega-media stars who are products of the system as well as the Justin Biebers who become famous after going viral, but that has nothing to do with all of the above.

My $.02
 
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Ah! The glorious UK Banning culture!!! That's what happens when your country is run by people who don't grasp the concept of Democracy...

In other words: IN A REAL DEMOCRACY, NONE OTHER THAN THE MAJORITY VOTE IN A COUNTRY WIDE REFERENDUM CAN ENFORCE A BAN.
 

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Ah! The glorious UK Banning culture!!! That's what happens when your country is run by people who don't grasp the concept of Democracy...

In other words: IN A REAL DEMOCRACY, NONE OTHER THAN THE MAJORITY VOTE IN A COUNTRY WIDE REFERENDUM CAN ENFORCE A BAN.

For starters, a real democracy is also a republic. I kiid I kiiiid.
 
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For starters, a real democracy is also a republic. I kiid I kiiiid.

actually a republic is not a synonym to democracy. A republic (or res-publica in latin) is closer to what we know as commonwealth.
 

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democracy, or tyranny of the majority, is something everyone should fear.
 
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democracy, or tyranny of the majority, is something everyone should fear.

Care to be more specific? Are you suggesting that most people would approve of Corporocracy??
 

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my names popeye, and ive just been nosing round looking for news/discussion about tpb and ended up here, now ive read through the thread and felt commpelled to join your comunity to add this;
the blocking of tpb is wrong
hats a given
but as to why its wrong i only saw one answer on here that gets anywhere close,"censorship allways comes with misson creep" and, that is what its all about.
its about setting foundations for the policing of the flow of information around the web, its easy to start with pirate bay because to folks who read the daily mail have no legitimate purpose so start there then, the precedent is set, and it continues at will of people with money=influence. I.E. not you
in the original article i read it was in the same sentence, i think, that the writer switched the disscussion to making isps block ALL "adult content" to people who do not specifically opt in and proove age WTF? who checks? who decides? another database full of our details to be sold/surveilled. AND this is in the back ground of the monetary system collapsing around us and youve just got to wonder why they are going after this and i think that the monopoly's (recording film software) have the money to push this through and they pay folk to lobby for them,so, they're PAYING for political influence and it so happens that the gvt. would benefit hugely from it too so here it begins,
copyright currently stands at life + 70yrs because Disney lobbied for it that in itself i think is criminal but thats me...
anyway thanks for reading and i hope that you would research what ive said im not a conspiracy nut but the internet has levelled the playing field so far in favour of the people against the gov/monopoly that anyone who would give it up is working against the good of mankind, its that big.
now my new friends.......
FLAME ME or discuss further?

Thanks for your post. As qubit stated, it is definitely about mission creep and censorship. It pains me to see that people still think this is about content protection; laws already exist for that. If this wasn't such a serious matter I would be laughing my ass off when thinking about how many suckers are buying into this hook, line and sinker. Governments market false premises all the time as a diversionary tactic to keep people from realizing what they are really accomplishing.
 

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Care to be more specific? Are you suggesting that most people would approve of Corporocracy??

a republic is more balanced and more equitable than a democracy.
 

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So why just the PirateBay?? And will they be holding the ISP's responsible for allowing somebody to connect to TPB or the users??



I swing my ban hammer!!!
 
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So why just the PirateBay?? And will they be holding the ISP's responsible for allowing somebody to connect to TPB or the users??

Because it's iconic, they've been running rings round the content industry for years and have stuck it to them with their responses. This is a grudge, pure and simple. Also, TPB is high profile, so taking them down is worth 10 lesser known websites in their propaganda war against file sharing.
 
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Personally, the only time I've used TPB was for no-cd patches, .iso, and keygens for games that I ALREADY leagally own, keygens for when i loose the keys, .iso for damaged discs, no-cd patches... well the name says it.

and a few movies... at the time it was faster to download than to rip them to my computer lol (movies i own)

since i've been buying games via steam, i haven't really had to worry about that much.

Sorry but owning a old VHS movie doesn't mean you can download the same movie in HD for free, I use that site to download ISO's for games which i buy just the keys for its cheaper and i dont have to wait for the disk which i though out any ways.
 

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I used tpb the other day for watching the last episode of Homeland. After watching all the other episodes on TV, the second last one was a real cliffhanger - no way was I waiting a week on tenterhooks to see the final episode! Yes, the final was good and I'm glad I did it. :)
 
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Once again politicians attempt to erode Internet freedom and identify themselves as little more than the legislative wing of large corporations.

The issue is not whether or not the Pirate Bay deserves such treatment or whether it will be missed, but rather the precedent this sets and its implications for the future.

In areas where the death penalty is in force, we see no reduction in the associated crimes: I imagine that this measure will prove equally effective and, whilst we are speaking of incovenience rather than loss of life, more than a few innocent people will suffer. However, it does serve, if any further proof were needed, to highlight the power of certain pressure groups and the interests that our politicians truly serve.
 

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Once again politicians attempt to erode Internet freedom and identify themselves as little more than the legislative wing of large corporations.

The issue is not whether or not the Pirate Bay deserves such treatment or whether it will be missed, but rather the precedent this sets and its implications for the future.

In areas where the death penalty is in force, we see no reduction in the associated crimes: I imagine that this measure will prove equally effective and, whilst we are speaking of incovenience rather than loss of life, more than a few innocent people will suffer. However, it does serve, if any further proof were needed, to highlight the power of certain pressure groups and the interests that our politicians truly serve.

Death penalty isn't meant to reduce crime and IMO isn't used enough.

As for Pirate Bay? Well buh bye. Its not like they ever contributed ANYTHING to society.
 
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As for Pirate Bay? Well buh bye. Its not like they ever contributed ANYTHING to society.

TPB haven't contributed ANYTHING to society? If not for them there won't be any of those litigation, cases, lobbying, legislation, etc. all in the name of copyright, or as they insist, combating "piracy."
 

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TPB haven't contributed ANYTHING to society? If not for them there won't be any of those litigation, cases, lobbying, legislation, etc. all in the name of copyright, or as they insist, combating "piracy."

By that reasoning we should thank pedos for the anti CP laws.
 
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By that reasoning we should thank pedos for the anti CP laws.

Which is perfectly reasonable. There won't be gun-control laws if there aren't any guns.
 

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Which is perfectly reasonable. There won't be gun-control laws if there aren't any guns.

You are confusing contrubution to degradation.
 
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Death penalty isn't meant to reduce crime and IMO isn't used enough.

I will try to ensure that I never live in a location where you have the possibility of legislating. ;)
 
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I will try to ensure that I never live in a location where you have the possibility of legislating. ;)

Why? I'm for the full legalization of drugs and prostitution also. Just don't hurt or steal from anyone on purpose and live a life of bliss in TheMailman metropolis!
 
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Display(s) LG 27" 1440P| Samsung 20" S20C300L/DELL 15" | 22" DELL/19"DELL
Case LIAN LI PC-18 | Mini ATX Case (custom) | Atrix C4 9001
Audio Device(s) Onboard | Onbaord | Onboard
Power Supply Silverstone 850 | Silverstone Mini 450W | Corsair CX-750
Mouse Coolermaster Pro | Rapoo V900 | Gigabyte 6850X
Keyboard MAX Keyboard Nighthawk X8 | Creative Fatal1ty eluminx | Some POS Logitech
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 | Windows 10 Pro 64 | Windows 7 Pro 64/Windows 10 Home
i'm all for torrents, but the pirate bay is a terrible website full of viruses and fakes.

no big loss.

What the hell are you downloading then? :wtf:
 
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