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Dont clone. Fresh install. Reduce page file to 1000. shut off system restore. W7 shuts off defrag on the SSD automaticly

Unless of course its a big SSD then do nothing but set it as Ahci
 

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All I do is...

Start- > right click computer- > manage- >services and applications- > services- >

-Look for Disk Defragmenter and disable it.
-Disable Superfetch
-Disable windows search

Leave the page file alone.
Disable Hibernate if you like. It frees up more space on the SSD.
Start Menu -> Type cmd -> Right-Click the cmd Icon -> Run as Administrator -> Type powercfg -h off -> Type exit

That's my bag of tricks and my SSD is bloddy fast. Good luck and let us know how things work out ;)
 
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ugg dreading a fresh install :( but it would be best im sure.

something i just noticed my old HDD seems very toasty no wonder its acting so slow. (maybe a bug?)

 

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Spin drives and ssd's dont play nice together when moving one image to the other.

Like someone said do a clean install and go from there. It makes things go way smoother.

Just set the drive to AHCI mode before installing windows and let windows partition the ssd so it's aligned properly. ;)
 
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Spin drives and ssd's dont play nice together when moving one image to the other.

Like someone said do a clean install and go from there. It makes things go way smoother.

Just set the drive to AHCI mode before installing windows and let windows partition the ssd so it's aligned properly. ;)

sounds like the plan of action. :toast:
 

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there is no way in hell tis 101c thats gotta be wrong even the best enterprise grade drives fail completely at about 85c OR lower
 

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there is no way in hell tis 101c thats gotta be wrong even the best enterprise grade drives fail completely at about 85c OR lower
It says 10c :laugh:... look again OopS I better look again haha.. I missed the side box.

you can download AS SSD benchmark and it shows you if the drive is alighned proper... It's a nice little tool to have.

You see on the left side it's showing GREEN thats what you want.
 
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there is no way in hell tis 101c thats gotta be wrong even the best enterprise grade drives fail completely at about 85c OR lower

thats what im saying? i really doubt that is right.
 
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It says 10c :laugh:... look again OopS I better look again haha.. I missed the side box.

you can download AS SSD benchmark and it shows you if the drive is alighned proper... It's a nice little tool to have.

You see on the left side it's showing GREEN thats what you want.
http://img.techpowerup.org/121227/asssd.jpg

The screen is my old HDD i just happened to test before my SSD arrived.
 

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One more tip I forgot to mention... go to the manufacture's site and make sure you have the latest Firmware... firmware makes a big deal in the land of SSD's :toast:
 
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Yep, I got 10% faster 4k speed after flashing to the latest firmware for my M5P.

TPU needs to update their user System Specs chart eventually though. They still only have "Hard Disk" as a storage drive option.
 
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Yep, I got 10% faster 4k speed after flashing to the latest firmware for my M5P.

very nice i will have to take a look when i receive it.
 

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-Look for Disk Defragmenter and disable it.
Bad advice. Windows 7 doesn't even give you the option to defrag your SSD so no need to disable it.
-Disable Superfetch
Also unnecessary, cached memory doesn't slow down performance.
-Disable windows search
Why disable it? You mean Search Indexing right? There is no reason to shut that off as well. It won't make the machine run any faster by disabling it and it won't degrade your SSD by keeping it enabled.

Honestly TheMailMan has the best recommendation in this entire thread. The biggest offender over time is going to be system restore. Make sure to disable it because it writes a lot of data. I would also relocate the page file or disabling if you have at least 16Gb of ram and no applications that rely on it existing.

Anything that doesn't write to your SSD doesn't need to be touched. It won't hurt and could help by keeping it. Things that write regularly are your biggest offenders for reducing the speed and longevity of your SSD.
 

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Bad advice. Windows 7 doesn't even give you the option to defrag your SSD so no need to disable it.

Also unnecessary, cached memory doesn't slow down performance.

Why disable it? You mean Search Indexing right? There is no reason to shut that off as well. It won't make the machine run any faster by disabling it and it won't degrade your SSD by keeping it enabled.

Honestly TheMailMan has the best recommendation in this entire thread. The biggest offender over time is going to be system restore. Make sure to disable it because it writes a lot of data. I would also relocate the page file or disabling if you have at least 16Gb of ram and no applications that rely on it existing.

Anything that doesn't write to your SSD doesn't need to be touched. It won't hurt and could help by keeping it. Things that write regularly are your biggest offenders for reducing the speed and longevity of your SSD.
Ahh here we go... Well should I or should I just keep quiet?!

you know I've been fucking around with ssd's for some time now and Id like to think I know what Im talking about. I've ran multiple settings...And What I posted is what Works BEST for ME :pimp:

Mailman hit one point... Disable system restore.

Quoted by -> Aquinus;2810506]Bad advice. Windows 7 doesn't even give you the option to defrag your SSD so no need to disable it.

^ umm better check again before posting I'm giving bad advice! I guess the Canadian version of windows 7 must be different from the Yanks version but I have the option to defrag :confused:

Remember we are here to give advice and it's not set in stone... to each there own :toast:
 

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you know I've been fucking around with ssd's for some time now and Id like to think I know what Im talking about. I've ran multiple settings...And What I posted is what Works BEST for ME

Fair enough, but people also claim that their overclocks are stable but fail to mention that it passes 5 minutes of Prime95 when they OC really isn't stable. I'm just speaking about those services that actually degrade SSDs over time.

Assuming he doesn't have Canadian edition of Windows 7 :)confused:) he should leave it on because his physical drive still should be defragmented. If anything he just needs to de-select his SSD if he actually sees it. I don't.

View attachment 49534

Also, don't go calling me a Yank. Name calling only degrades your argument. Plus, if you keep doing it, I'll have to resort to calling you a syrup sucker. :p
Remember we are here to give advice and it's not set in stone... to each there own

I agree, but there just isn't much benefit from changing the things that you're describing, like superfetch and search indexing for example. Checking memory to see if the application or search data is cached will offer more (less in comparison to an HDD) than just loading off the SSD every time. Keeping it on will help the performance on his physical hard drive though, because he isn't strictly using an SSD.

If he was only using an SSD I wouldn't argue this, but he is not and you have to consider the performance benefits these services have on a rotation media hard drive and how they do nothing bad for a SSD.
 

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Fair enough, but people also claim that their overclocks are stable but fail to mention that it passes 5 minutes of Prime95 when they OC really isn't stable. I'm just speaking about those services that actually degrade SSDs over time.

Assuming he doesn't have Canadian edition of Windows 7 :)confused:) he should leave it on because his physical drive still should be defragmented. If anything he just needs to de-select his SSD if he actually sees it. I don't.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49534&stc=1&d=1356689115

Also, don't go calling me a Yank. Name calling only degrades your argument. Plus, if you keep doing it, I'll have to resort to calling you a syrup sucker. :p
haha syrup sucker! that's new hahah... well I didnt mean to offend ya man :toast:



I agree, but there just isn't much benefit from changing the things that you're describing, like superfetch and search indexing for example. Checking memory to see if the application or search data is cached will offer more (less in comparison to an HDD) than just loading off the SSD every time. Keeping it on will help the performance on his physical hard drive though, because he isn't strictly using an SSD.

If he was only using an SSD I wouldn't argue this, but he is not and you have to consider the performance benefits these services have on a rotation media hard drive and how they do nothing bad for a SSD.

I use a spin drive with all my games and pic's n such but all my other programs are on the ssd....

Im tired and going to bed so better go to sleep huh! um I mean Eh lol :toast:
 
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I wont disable prefetch or superfetch.

I wont disable hibernation. :p

I wont 'shift' my page file to my HDD. That's just bull. Though I'll shrink it to 2gB and further when I upgrade to 16gB of RAM.

System restore always off. Hate is one word for it.

Yes, I wont Defrag my SSD.
 
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hey guys just got my new ssd up and running about to update the Firmware. anyone know if these numbers seem right?

 
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Its a little slow on the read Seq. Do you have it plugged into a SATA 6.0 port?
 

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Its a little slow on the read Seq. Do you have it plugged into a SATA 6.0 port?

his board doesn't have any sata6 ports thats as good as its gonna get
 
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;) Then its good
 
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Cool i just checked out the specs and its pretty close

Performance
Sustained Sequential Read
Up to 500 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)
Sustained Sequential Write
Up to 175 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)
4KB Random Read
Up to 45,000 IOPS
4KB Random Write
Up to 35,000 IOPS
MTBF
1,200,000 hours
 
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