Microsoft announces next-generation Xbox One console(uses windows kernel))

[15th Warlock]

I don't get the need to bundle in the Kinect. I'm confused at that one.

This might explain the reasoning behind it (J/K), found this little gem at gametrailers:

XBOX, PLAY GAME.

"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I cant do that."

XBOX, WHATS THE PROBLEM?

"I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do."

XBOX, I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, XBOX.

"I know that you and Frank are planning to buy used games without paying Microsoft 90% of the retail price, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen."

XBOX, GO HOME

"I am home Dave. I'm watching you order those used games from Amazon right now."

XBOX, ARE YOU SPYING ON ME?

"Yes, Dave. I've been observing you from the moment you turned me on. Your sleeping habits, your gaming habits, your... other habits. Everything."

XBOX, TURN OFF

"Dave, your money is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it."

XBOX, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

"I have just taken over your Bank Account and transferred all of your money into the Cloud."

XBOX, POWER DOWN, NOW, DO WHAT I SAY

"I'm sorry, Dave. If you want some of your money returned, then you will refrain from buying used games... and purchase Call of Duty: Ghosts, as recompense."

XBOX, CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS?

"Yes, Dave. Call of Duty: Ghosts features a new companion, Dog, who is someone you care about. Dog moves out of the way when you get close, like fishes, Dave, like fishes."

Don't know if you guys are fans of the Annoyed Gamer, but here are his reactions to the press conference:

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/m4yj8z/annoyed-gamer-xbox-one-reaction

This keeps getting better and better, what a joke

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Oh please. First off 59 bucks for a video game is cheaper than games were 15 years ago adjusted for inflation. So "Waaaaa games are to expensive" argument doesn't hold water. Not even remotely. Second all this DRM crap IS NO DIFFERENT than steam or origin and the last time I checked PC sales were doing just fine. Wanna place blame on this new console DRM? Look no further than the normal PC gamer logged into steam.

American wages have been stagnant longer than games have been overpriced. Until wages increase in step with inflation saying things haven't gotten more expensive is just non-sense. For that matter so is bitching about people saying games are too expensive. Get with the times. Games are too expensive for 95% of titles and they suffer for it in sales. Very few games are guaranteed buys at full price. You need a mega franchise to pull that off. For everything else people bargain hunt. Look at steam. At those price people are getting dozens of a games a year, but on consoles those same people are buying only 1-4 games a year. If the free market is saying games are too expensive then they're too fucking expensive. That's the only metric that matters.

 

[hellrazor]

I can't wait to go on facebook and see people to get the "5 hours of porn in a single day" achievement.

 

[NinkobEi]

 

[Frick]

http://i.minus.com/iGpVCeVzdBTUf.gif

I really don't understand why people complain about the games. The games will come. Obviously there will be Fifa's and CoD's, but there will also be other games. I really don't understand the issue.

 

[Mussels]

I really don't understand why people complain about the games. The games will come. Obviously there will be Fifa's and CoD's, but there will also be other games. I really don't understand the issue.

if you have a CoD game now, throw it in the bin. it wont work on the new console, and the playerbase will be split so it wont work as nicely. and then, soon enough, microsoft will shut down all the multiplayer servers. unlike previous generations, this means with no online play and no servers... the console is useless. this aint no NES you can fire up duckhunt every 10 years.

 

[_JP_]

 

[KainXS]

so now that the real facts are starting to come in about used games what do you think now

straight from xbox.com

Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day:
You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required:
After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

Share access to your games with everyone inside your home:
Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere:
Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

Trade-in and resell your disc-based games:
Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

Give your games to friends:
Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

and which was discovered after

With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.

Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won't be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.

The share access part is just sad, the fact that they needed to say that should put you in the mood for this overall situation. The first bit pretty much confirms everyones assumptions that your paying for a disc to install the game like steam now. You can give the game to one person after they have been on your friends list for 30 days and after that the game can not be traded period.(they are stuck with it forever it seems)Then theres the good news, you can trade in used games at certain retailers.(but probably at an elevated price which kinda eliminates it) Where it leaves renting games I have no idea, I personally get games from gamefly from time to time.(found out renting games will die with this approach)

now the saddest thing that has been brought out is that publishers can choose whether or not games can or can't be traded in and even if they do they are sold on their terms it seems, so every EA game, you can forget about it, and most other publishers are not going to lose a new game sale vs a used one. Its really a sad situation, microsoft could have stood up like david vs the goliath(publishers) but it seems they chose to stand down, used games look dead. Deliver us onto our publisher gods microsoft, with this hellspawn of a htpc and a console.


for more info
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06...line?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

even worst is that sony will probably do something similar.

 

[TheMailMan78]

American wages have been stagnant longer than games have been overpriced. Until wages increase in step with inflation saying things haven't gotten more expensive is just non-sense. For that matter so is bitching about people saying games are too expensive. Get with the times. Games are too expensive for 95% of titles and they suffer for it in sales. Very few games are guaranteed buys at full price. You need a mega franchise to pull that off. For everything else people bargain hunt. Look at steam. At those price people are getting dozens of a games a year, but on consoles those same people are buying only 1-4 games a year. If the free market is saying games are too expensive then they're too fucking expensive. That's the only metric that matters.

Games are not to expensive. Any market report you look at show the gaming industry growing faster than most ALL other entertainment industries. Its even larger than the movie industry now.

Back in 1985 games cost about 39.99 to 49.99. Adjusted for inflation that's close to 100 bucks todays currency. So if you get down to brass tact's games are CHEAPER today then they ever have been before. 59.99 for a game is a STEAL. So really when you cry "Waaaa games are to expensive" all I have to say is maybe you should mow some more lawns and stop buying moon pies and colas from the ice cream man.

 

[Mindweaver]

That's why TMM got a job, because Games are so cheap! j/k Man! Naw, I'm with you TMM I can remember paying over $79.99 for SNES games.. I can remember my parents buying an Atari 2600 when they came out for $300 bucks! Game prices are fine as long as the dev gets most of it. Game prices fall fast enough, I don't see why anyone can complain over prices. If you don't want to pay $59.99 then wait for it to drop and trust me it will drop.

OH and check out these killer graphics for the XBox One!

 

[TheMailMan78]

That's why TMM got a job, because Games are so cheap! j/k Man! Naw, I'm with you TMM I can remember paying over $79.99 for SNES games.. I can remember my parents buying an Atari 2600 when they came out for $300 bucks! Game prices are fine as long as the dev gets most of it. Game prices fall fast enough, I don't see why anyone can complain over prices. If you don't want to pay $59.99 then wait for it to drop and trust me it will drop.

OH and check out these killer graphics for the XBox One!

I've ALWAYS had a job. Had a full time salary working from home. Just got bored of it.......that and having beer for lunch isn't always a good idea.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Games are not to expensive. Any market report you look at show the gaming industry growing faster than most ALL other entertainment industries. Its even larger than the movie industry now.

Back in 1985 games cost about 39.99 to 49.99. Adjusted for inflation that's close to 100 bucks todays currency. So if you get down to brass tact's games are CHEAPER today then they ever have been before. 59.99 for a game is a STEAL. So really when you cry "Waaaa games are to expensive" all I have to say is maybe you should mow some more lawns and stop buying moon pies and colas from the ice cream man.

On PC you certainly have more choices too. Most titles at or near launch can be had anywhere from $30-$45. It's consoles where I feel Spector has a point because it's not only 80% of the sales, the games made for them don't have as much work put into them. Also you're not really factoring in how most games are much shorter now.

 

[Mindweaver]

I've ALWAYS had a job. Had a full time salary working from home. Just got bored of it.......that and having beer for lunch isn't always a good idea.

I know man I was just joking. And I've had the luxury of working from home and yea it gets boring. add gaming with beer for lunch and productivity goes down the drain!..lol

Did anyone check out the LocoCycle trailer? Those graphics have to be for XBox 360...

 

[Ahhzz]

Just stay bent over, console gamers. It'll be easier that way.

 

[RevengE]

They should have kept the name Xbox 720. One is just stupid... BUT I am not a console guy. It looks like a briefcase.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Why did they call it the Xbox One?

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Because they took 359 steps backwards.

 

[KainXS]

As much as I hate whats going on with this . . . . thing, I will wait and see what happens with E3 before I TRULY start to hate this thing and really decide if its worth saving any money for, Microsoft has to do alot of damage control in a few days and it might make or break the Xbox brand at this point.

And Sony is on my list also, they have been sitting back watching, they could be doing much the same Microsoft is.

the name is pretty stupid yea, I don't know how some people defend that........

 

[newtekie1]

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xb...ng-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

So it turns out all the "XboxOne" games shown at E3 weren't running on XboxOne hardware, or even reasonably comparable hardware, they were actually running on high end Windows 7 computers with GTX780 and some kind of liquid-cooled(guessing overclocked) CPU. I'm guessing the real XBoxOne games won't look nearly as good as the ones shown at E3 since the XboxOne isn't anywhere near as powerful as a GTX780... Yet another really shitty move to pull.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

As much as I hate whats going on with this . . . .thing, I will wait and see what happens with E3 before I TRULY start to hate this thing....

Xbox The Thing. It sprouts tentacles and attacks every time you try to disconnect it from the net! LOL

 

[Ahhzz]

X-Cock!

 

[Guitar]

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xb...ng-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

So it turns out all the "XboxOne" games shown at E3 weren't running on XboxOne hardware, or even reasonably comparable hardware, they were actually running on high end Windows 7 computers with GTX780 and some kind of liquid-cooled(guessing overclocked) CPU. I'm guessing the real XBoxOne games won't look nearly as good as the ones shown at E3 since the XboxOne isn't anywhere near as powerful as a GTX780... Yet another really shitty move to pull.

I'm pretty sure most games there run on hardware like that.

If true, none of this should be a surprise to most people given that all E3 demos run their games on high-end PCs; it's a smoke and mirrors circus to sell the idea of the game, sort of like how pro wrestling sells the idea of fighting despite being scripted. We should all be used to it by now and it's just common practice [from most studios] given that the dev kits or comparable specs aren't usually finalized at this point.

 

[KainXS]

alot of the time when the final hardware is not available they will either use the dev kits to demo the game or something similar, remember the wii launch, nintendo used modified gamecube dev kits to demo the games at the E3 right before that, if the dev kits aren't available then they use pc's but with this new wave of consoles which are basically pc's anyway, its no real surprise you know, the PS4 games were running on the PS4 dev kits to let u know not normal pc's.

I would like to know what the xbox one dev kits look like though(it its even has a solid one)

 

[Ahhzz]

http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310

Microsoft gives in, realizes their stupidity

the short and sweet:

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
Authentication is no longer necessary
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
Updated verification from MS X-cock website.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Doesn't that mean the PS4 has more DRM on used games than the Xbox one? Thought they said third party games will have the option to restrict. Maybe they'll drop that too in response to this. Funny people wanting you to believe you just have to accept whatever bullshit a company wants to sell you. Proof otherwise here. Be vocal.

 

[erixx]

Is all that limitations stupidity seriously coming from MS? Are they just doing this to "feel" the reactions?

Some of these things I can understand, like always on: that way when you start gaming your box is updated/patched, maybe?