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Titanfall Install Will Take Up 48GB On PC

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It means it's not being ported from a console.



EDIT: I'm not arguing with you, I also have no faith in these developers, and the game will probably run as efficiently on a PC as a cheeseboard. It just won't be a console port.


so it being made for the xbox one and ported to pc means nothing?

interesting opinion. xbone being x86 based makes it much easier to port, but does it stop it being a port?
 
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this isnt really bad. because game size is increasing at the same rate that space is getting cheaper the only thing that isnt keeping up is ISP speed availability per area. in which case man up and go buy a physical copy we all did it in 2007 it wont kill us to much now. Though we might need to find out were we put out dvd drives.

this is no diffirent then when we all needed to buy $200 WD 320GB blue drives because unreal tournament took up 14gb befor mods

You're going to have to justify this statement, because I think you are looking at a different market than I am. A 2 TB HDD is just now settling at about $90-100. Three years ago it was at about the same price (pre-flooding). How is storage getting cheaper? Maybe if you look at SSD pricing, but if that's your logic then Titanfall will cost another $25+ in storage. That seems kinda high to me.

Additionally, 21 GB installers will take 3 dual layer DVDs in order to store. I remember the days when you had like 4 CDs for one game. I still remember the awesomeness of buying Homeworld and spending a couple of hours reading the instruction manual prior to loading anything on the computer. I'm behind you on there being no reason to moan, but it has been years since I bought a physical disc that contained anything worth while. It's too bad, because it seems like we're being pegged as having too little of an attention span to read anything before playing games.

Hopefully there is something released for Titanfall that expands the universe a little. The UT series was all multi-player, but it still managed to string along a set of matches that gave at least a semblance of background narrative to your actions.
 

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so it being made for the xbox one and ported to pc means nothing?

interesting opinion. xbone being x86 based makes it much easier to port, but does it stop it being a port?

No that means its built on PC and ported to XBOX1...
 

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PC and XBox 1 are both x86 which is the same platform so no porting. It will be ported to XBox360 because it's using a different platform using an IBM processor. ;) That's the greatest thing about PS4 and XBox One to pc gamers.
 

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The source engine is so versatile and works extremely well on xbox and ps consoles. Yes it maybe a very old engine but hell COD got away with it why can't respawn lol
 
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The source engine is so versatile and works extremely well on xbox and ps consoles. Yes it maybe a very old engine but hell COD got away with it why can't respawn lol

cod is built on an old quake engine not source dude.

PC and XBox 1 are both x86 which is the same platform so no porting. It will be ported to XBox360 because it's using a different platform using an IBM processor. ;) That's the greatest thing about PS4 and XBox One to pc gamers.

yea man, i mean this gen should push all gaming forward and as such is something we should all applaud.

the firmware on each and api used must make a difference?

from following the dev of titanfall for a while the source engine was mod to work on the xbone and later "fixed" for pc too.
 
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Why do people who have TBs of space complain when they actually have a use for said space?
 
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Why do people who have TBs of space complain when they actually have a use for said space?

People like to have something to complain about when it's out of the ordinary, but doesn't actually affect anyone besides those that don't have decent internet connections, or lack DVD drives.
First world problems - not being able to have your cake and eat it.
 

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GTA5 on PC I bet will be either around or bigger
60+ GiB wouldn't surprise me. Rockstar loves huge textures as demonstrated by GTA IV and Max Payne 3. GTA V is massive in every respect so...yeah.


Why do people who have TBs of space complain when they actually have a use for said space?
My 3 TB game HDD is already almost half full. All it has is Steam, Uplay, and Origin on it.
 

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60+ GiB wouldn't surprise me. Rockstar loves huge textures as demonstrated by GTA IV and Max Payne 3. GTA V is massive in every respect so...yeah.



My 3 TB game HDD is already almost half full. All it has is Steam, Uplay, and Origin on it.

right, but are you complaining? no.
 

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cod is built on an old quake engine not source dude.

Obviously but my analogy stays the same. If COD can use an old engine and continue to make games with it then why cant the source engine be used the same way
 

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Why do people who have TBs of space complain when they actually have a use for said space?

I'm not complaining about the space. I'm complaining about the game to me does not justify the space. I'm a Linux guy and I question MS for using as much space a they do as well... You being a Linux guy, I figured you would be on the same page buddy. :p Of course I don't think you were directing this comment about my questions. I just want everybody else to be clear what my complaint is over.
 

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I'm not complaining about the space. I'm complaining about the game to me does not justify the space. I'm a Linux guy and I question MS for using as much space a they do as well... You being a Linux guy, I figured you would be on the same page buddy. :p Of course I don't think you were directing this comment about my questions. I just want everybody else to be clear what my complaint is over.

My comment was just in general. People should buy hardware to make use of it. What's the point of purchasing a TB disk if you only use a few hundred gigs.

As far as the game goes, I don't know if it does or does not justify the space. Is it lousy code? Is it higher res textures? Is the game engine doing a lot more? Beats me.
 
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Obviously but my analogy stays the same. If COD can use an old engine and continue to make games with it then why cant the source engine be used the same way


why you are changing your point every time you post. did you even have a point?

tell me why you quoted me again?

i never said there was anything wrong with the source engine, i even said i play other games which use that engine so know how they should feel which is why i am happy to state my opinion that it is another laggy console port.
 
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Why do people who have TBs of space complain when they actually have a use for said space?

If this was a console game, where I could really only store my games there, then you'd have a point. My problem is that "you can just get more space" is a fallacy. Let's do some simple mathematics, and allow me to show you why the point is crap.

Let's start out with a 500 GB storage drive. Of that 500GB, about 20 is the OS, another 20 is the non-game programs, and there is a mathematical error of about 20 GB. That means you theoretically have 440 GB of storage for your media. Let's say that the storage medium double is size every 36 months, because you either get a new computer or install another HDD. Let's also say that the media being stored quadruples in size every 48 months, representing the shift from DVD to Blu-ray and such like.

Now, you'll start off with a certain amount of media. Let's peg this at a dozen CDs, about 20 DVDs, 10 games at 10 GB each, and about 10GB of other data. The rate of acquisition for new media is a CD every two months, a DVD per month, a game every month, and the other data increases at a rate of 5 GB per month. In the first year you go from 198 GB to 484 GB. By year two you're at 770 GB. By year 4 (when Blu-ray is introduced at 25 GB), you're at 1359 GB. Where media completely outpaces the storage is 64 months in, where you get 2005 GB of media, with only a 2 TB platter available to you. By month 72 you're at 2328 GB of data, and only have a 2TB drive to work with.


Now, imagine that average 10GB of games has been bumped up to 30 GB. Perhaps even 40 GB. What then? The amount of storage space needed is huge. Now add in the need for redundancy, because things break, and the 3 TB of data actually requires 6 TB. That is, unless you've got a substantial cash flow and can actually make a RAID array.


I for one built a RAID 5 array of 2 TB drives back when they were cheaper, but they are only now actually returning to the price of 3+ years ago. Not sure about you, but I put a huge dent in that "6" TB of storage, without even considering the Steam based games storage.

I'm not sure about you, but I can't see having anything less than a 2TB storage drive on any computer. Budget gamers skimp on the storage, in order to buy a better GPU and CPU, thus making a 1 TB drive a common factor. I'm not sure how you'd fit Steam, let alone any other media, on only 1 TB. Start making games much bigger, and that 1 TB is massively inadequate.
 
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You're going to have to justify this statement, because I think you are looking at a different market than I am. A 2 TB HDD is just now settling at about $90-100. Three years ago it was at about the same price (pre-flooding). How is storage getting cheaper? Maybe if you look at SSD pricing, but if that's your logic then Titanfall will cost another $25+ in storage. That seems kinda high to me.

Based on the rules of inflation something staying the same price 3 years in a row has actually gotten cheaper. An average of 9% cheaper in the US anyways. Besides I see a toshiba 2TB SATA 6Gb/s for 75$ on the egg right now, and the egg hasn't been anywhere near cheap for years now.

The same drive class in 3TB is 99$. 50% more storage 33% higher price. I'm sure you could find even better deals. Only the 4TB drives have price premiums at the moment. Even those are less than the 200$ 320GB he quoted from a few years ago. And it would take over 80 titanfalls to fill that single drive. With digital distribution you don't have to have all of your games installed at once. That 21GB download would take me under 3 hours on my home connection (and 15Mbps isn't earth shattering) and I typically do those overnight while I sleep.

Bioshock Infinite required 20GB not counting DLC. It's the name of the game and nothing to fuss about.
 
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I am guessing I don't belong in this conversation. However, I do find this thread a little amusing. In that I don't think I want to ever fill a 2TB drive with Games.

Probably only funny to me. :oops:
 
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I am guessing I don't belong in this conversation. However, I do find this thread a little amusing. In that I don't think I want to ever fill a 2TB drive with Games.

Probably only funny to me. :oops:


My 3TB gaming raid hasn't broken the 1TB usage mark. If I haven't played a game in a long time I see no reason to have it installed (especially when that games updates start queing before the updates of games I do play) So I uninstall those. If I had a weaker net connection I'd likely just turn off updates for that game, but even then it would be the download size that would worry me, not the space the installed game takes up. And there have been plenty in the 15-20GB download range for a while now.
 

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"Anyone can see they are blowing up the file size to stop people from torrents"

for those who have 1Mbit/s -10Mbit/s maybe. But those who enjoy 100+ Mbit/s it is few hours download.
and i will not talk 300Mbit-1Gb/s speeds...
im from small country Lithuania, half of it has fiber optics 100mbit or similar for 15$/month...its like normal speed here. So won't affect those users and i would bet 90% of ppl here will get it pirated anyway.
 

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If this was a console game, where I could really only store my games there, then you'd have a point. My problem is that "you can just get more space" is a fallacy. Let's do some simple mathematics, and allow me to show you why the point is crap.

Let's start out with a 500 GB storage drive. Of that 500GB, about 20 is the OS, another 20 is the non-game programs, and there is a mathematical error of about 20 GB. That means you theoretically have 440 GB of storage for your media. Let's say that the storage medium double is size every 36 months, because you either get a new computer or install another HDD. Let's also say that the media being stored quadruples in size every 48 months, representing the shift from DVD to Blu-ray and such like.

Now, you'll start off with a certain amount of media. Let's peg this at a dozen CDs, about 20 DVDs, 10 games at 10 GB each, and about 10GB of other data. The rate of acquisition for new media is a CD every two months, a DVD per month, a game every month, and the other data increases at a rate of 5 GB per month. In the first year you go from 198 GB to 484 GB. By year two you're at 770 GB. By year 4 (when Blu-ray is introduced at 25 GB), you're at 1359 GB. Where media completely outpaces the storage is 64 months in, where you get 2005 GB of media, with only a 2 TB platter available to you. By month 72 you're at 2328 GB of data, and only have a 2TB drive to work with.


Now, imagine that average 10GB of games has been bumped up to 30 GB. Perhaps even 40 GB. What then? The amount of storage space needed is huge. Now add in the need for redundancy, because things break, and the 3 TB of data actually requires 6 TB. That is, unless you've got a substantial cash flow and can actually make a RAID array.


I for one built a RAID 5 array of 2 TB drives back when they were cheaper, but they are only now actually returning to the price of 3+ years ago. Not sure about you, but I put a huge dent in that "6" TB of storage, without even considering the Steam based games storage.

I'm not sure about you, but I can't see having anything less than a 2TB storage drive on any computer. Budget gamers skimp on the storage, in order to buy a better GPU and CPU, thus making a 1 TB drive a common factor. I'm not sure how you'd fit Steam, let alone any other media, on only 1 TB. Start making games much bigger, and that 1 TB is massively inadequate.

What you are describing has never happened. HDD space has also advanced ahead of demand. Always.
 

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why you are changing your point every time you post. did you even have a point?

tell me why you quoted me again?

i never said there was anything wrong with the source engine, i even said i play other games which use that engine so know how they should feel which is why i am happy to state my opinion that it is another laggy console port.

I really don't know why I keep quoting your post cause each time I feel lose more brain cells...
 
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System Name Desktop
Processor i5 13600KF
Motherboard AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-U9S
Memory 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB
Storage WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x
Display(s) Gigabye M32U
Case Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 P2
Mouse MX Master 3s
Keyboard Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky
Software The Matrix
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System Name Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory 2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s) HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage ?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s) 1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s) Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply 19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

Easy Rhino

Linux Advocate
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
15,449 (2.42/day)
Location
Mid-Atlantic
System Name Desktop
Processor i5 13600KF
Motherboard AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-U9S
Memory 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB
Storage WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x
Display(s) Gigabye M32U
Case Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 P2
Mouse MX Master 3s
Keyboard Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky
Software The Matrix
LOL, time to stop!! You are loosing to much!!

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my brain lets loose cells whenever i see the misuse of lose and loose!
 
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