TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Nordic · Mar 10, 2014

Seems really stable at 4.8ghz, the 3930k. It pushes my loop much harder as expected. With my fans at 100% at 4.8ghz I get 75c. I think that is as high as I will go. I have read that one can raise the bclk and lower multi for less volts needed. I might want to try that as it will produce less heat. Pics will be up tomorrow.

t_ski · Mar 10, 2014

Norton said:
Just need to get a decent HDD for it

Like I said, Bill - I have the one for sure...

RCoon · Mar 10, 2014

Running a CPU giveaway, WCG members get entered twice, link in sig

Nordic · Mar 10, 2014

I have a bit of a conundrum. My game Ns2 loves very high single threaded performance. The higher the cpu clock the better. I can get this 3930k stable at a very beastly 4.8ghz@1.4v but it uses a ton of power, like ~100 watts more than stock. I will be crunching 24/7 so every watt does matter to an extent. So I am wondering do I go to a nice low overclock of 4-4.2ghz undervolted, or compromise at 4.4-4.5ghz moderate volts, or extreme performance 4.8ghz.

xvi · Mar 10, 2014

Can you set up profiles? Just switch to aggressive when gaming and go back to moderate or relaxed for 24/7.

Nordic · Mar 10, 2014

xvi said:
Can you set up profiles? Just switch to aggressive when gaming and go back to moderate or relaxed for 24/7.

From OS?

theonedub · Mar 11, 2014

RCoon said:
Running a CPU giveaway, WCG members get entered twice, link in sig

Of course I'm looking for an FM2 CPU to use in the MB I won in the WCG Feb Contest but Im in the US :laugh:

Just my luck.

t_ski · Mar 11, 2014

Vinska said:
oh boy... currently, there's quite some chance for my little crunching operation in my university getting permanently sacked.
Will get to know more in the coming days.

Any update for us on this? Seems like your numbers are still up.

Norton · Mar 12, 2014

Anyone else getting upload errors? :banghead:

manofthem · Mar 12, 2014

Norton said:
Anyone else getting upload errors?

Yes, I can't upload right now, have several waiting. I just clicked update, and it did download another though. :mad:

Norton · Mar 12, 2014

manofthem said:
Yes, I can't upload right now, have several waiting. I just clicked update, and it did download another though.

The issue is being reported on the WCG forums and their admins are checking it out now- hopefully it will be resolved later today.

On another matter:

When checking your stats please keep a close watch on what Team you're crunching for! A number of crunchers from other Teams are reporting an involuntary transfer to the Ripple Labs Team... this may be an instance of someone hacking accounts to steal ppd from other members. This issue is also being looked into by WCG admins. :shadedshu:

I'm moblie atm but it would be helpful if someone could post the links to the threads at the WCG forum on the above items.

Arjai · Mar 12, 2014

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=movement&proj=bwcg&team=30491
If you are on that list ^ change back then, change your password!!

For more info, post-wise, from WCG...
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,36475

We are investigating what could have happened.

Click to expand...

manofthem · Mar 12, 2014

Thanks guys, also saw this one on upload errors, not sure if it's the right one Norton mentioned:

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,36474

@xvi: I'm not on the list but perhaps I shall change my password regardless.

How pathetic is it that there is potential to hack accounts for ppd on WCG? :mad:

that's really not what this crap is about! :shadedshu:

Arjai · Mar 12, 2014

manofthem said:
Thanks guys, also saw this one on upload errors, not sure if it's the right one Norton mentioned:

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,36474

@xvi: I'm not on the list but perhaps I shall change my password regardless.

How pathetic is it that there is potential to hack accounts for ppd on WCG? that's really not what this crap is about!

Arjai said:
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=movement&proj=bwcg&team=30491
If you are on that list ^ change back then, change your password!!

For more info, post-wise, from WCG...
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,36475

Did someone hack my Name in your post? Why would someone hack TPU to repost a different name?

/sarcasm :roll:

t_ski · Mar 12, 2014

I just noticed that Ripple Labs is at the top of the list in the daily numbers thread. Is this how they've been doing it all along?

xvi · Mar 12, 2014

Arjai said:
Did someone hack my Name in your post? Why would someone hack TPU to repost a different name?

Must have done it in my sleep. All to increase my thanks count, of course. As soon as thanks points can be traded, I'll be rich, I tell you, RICH!

HammerON · Mar 12, 2014

So looking at Ripple Labs team posts in the WCG forums I started to become confused:
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,35847_offset,380
Are they actually crunching to earn money

twilyth used to be a member on our team years ago.

Here is something I found while googling Ripple Labs:
https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4162
https://ripple.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=b0b11ad54b9455cd338d1aed32568f7f

Peter1986C · Mar 12, 2014

They cannot crunch for money, AFAIK. BOINC points cannot be exchanged.

xvi · Mar 12, 2014

Chevalr1c said:
They cannot crunch for money, AFAIK. BOINC points cannot be exchanged.

If a third party were to track stats individually, it could be handled outside of BOINC. Even here, someone could (in theory) simply watch the Pie thread and say "Top 10 gets a dollar for every 10,000 points".

After a quick google and six cells in a spreadsheet, it looks like Ripple has given away $1,860,082.00 USD at current exchange rates and is planning on giving away an additional $18,125.00 today (and seemingly every day).

Norton · Mar 12, 2014

Chevalr1c said:
They cannot crunch for money, AFAIK. BOINC points cannot be exchanged.

Ripple uses your BOINC ppd as a proof of "work done" and offers XRP, which is a form of cryptocurrency, for the work done.

This takes the effort of donating your PC time for a good cause and replaces it with greed.... with the good cause as "justification". I'm not a fan of such a thing :shadedshu:

HammerON · Mar 12, 2014

Norton said:
Ripple uses your BOINC ppd as a proof of "work done" and offers XRP, which is a form of cryptocurrency, for the work done.

This takes the effort of donating your PC time for a good cause and replaces it with greed.... with the good cause as "justification". I'm not a fan of such a thing

Couldn't agree more.

xvi · Mar 12, 2014

Giving a reward would mean more science though. Some users here talk about powering up machines for competitions, but powering them back down afterwards due to power usage. A reward would negate those costs and, if large enough, encourage growth in computing.

Don't get me wrong, it goes against a lot of what we believe (or at least what I think we believe) here that we're donating research, not exploiting a cause for profit.

manofthem · Mar 12, 2014

xvi said:
A reward would negate those costs and, if large enough, encourage growth in computing.

But as we've seen, it also encourages hacking and stealing others people's work because of greed.

xvi · Mar 12, 2014

manofthem said:
But as we've seen, it also encourages hacking and stealing others people's work because of greed.

True, sadly. As long as someone's making a nickel, there'll be someone there trying to take it for themselves.

Looking at some of the top users in Ripple's team page, it's difficult to believe the amount of PPD they're generating was obtained legitimately.

Edit: Here's some SFW car-equivalent of Hot Coffey to change the subject slightly. (Hot Octane?)

Norton · Mar 12, 2014

xvi said:
Giving a reward would mean more science though. Some users here talk about powering up machines for competitions, but powering them back down afterwards due to power usage. A reward would negate those costs and, if large enough, encourage growth in computing.

Using your figures I estimated about $6 per day for my current ppd (rough calculation) that's before capital gains, commisions, fees, etc... the other side of the coin is I believe that you need to surrender access to your WCG account to Ripple while you're part of that Team*
*that ain't happening!!! :wtf:

Also, the net growth of WCG is largely unchanged from what I had seen- meaning that the only thing that really happened is one large Team formed from members of existing Teams (mostly) and if Ripple folds up, WCG output stands a chance of falling significantly

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TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Nordic

t_ski

Former Staff

RCoon

Nordic

xvi

Nordic

theonedub

habe fidem

t_ski

Former Staff

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

Arjai

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!

Arjai

t_ski

Former Staff

xvi

HammerON

The Watchful Moderator

Peter1986C

xvi

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

HammerON

The Watchful Moderator

xvi

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!

xvi

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

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