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I have $150 to get a new motherboard to replace my other one, but I do not know exactly what I would need. Help would be appreciated.

It is to replace this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

(The PC build)
CPU:
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard:MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: 8gb Corsair (don't know exactly need to look it up)
Storage:
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card:Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card
Optical Drive:Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Windows 8.1
 

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Firstly why does your Motherboard need replacing?
Secondly have you factored in the cost of a new O.S. which is tied in to the BIOS on your current board?
Asrock make outstanding Motherboards and I have been using them for a number of years in builds, just make sure the socket is the same for the CPU when you do get a new board.
 

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Secondly have you factored in the cost of a new O.S. which is tied in to the BIOS on your current board?
The OS isn't tied to the BIOS.
 
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never had any major issues reusing an OS after a complete hardware change. In fact, I've had a HD with a W7 Ult 64bit install on it that was used in several different computers ranging from an XP 3200 to a Q9650, to a i5 860, to a Phenom II 960, to a i7 2600k, without a single reformat. Everything worked after a phone call to Intel and uninstalling/installing drivers everytime.

as for a MB recommendation-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128710

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132287

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130772

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501
 
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Can you not RMA your old one ?, that's if it's faulty.
 
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Firstly why does your Motherboard need replacing?
Secondly have you factored in the cost of a new O.S. which is tied in to the BIOS on your current board?
Asrock make outstanding Motherboards and I have been using them for a number of years in builds, just make sure the socket is the same for the CPU when you do get a new board.

Same here!
Wouldnt go for Biostart thats for sure...
 
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Same here!
Wouldnt go for Biostart thats for sure...
and Why not?

MSI RMA is good.
Biostar RMA is good.
Asus RMA is good.

AsRock RMA is terrible.

Also..the Biostar board has better components,is stronger, and has more features in the BIOS
than any AsRock 1150 except Z97 OCF ATX.
 
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and Why not?

MSI RMA is good.
Biostar RMA is good.
Asus RMA is good.

AsRock RMA is terrible.

Also..the Biostar board has better components,is stronger, and has more features in the BIOS
than any AsRock 1150 except Z97 OCF ATX.

Funny you say ASRock support is bad as they have always responded to me within hours of asking them. Unlike ASUS and a good chance they will send the same thing back to you with no changes lol.
 
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Z97-A

It's like the only Z97 motherboard I would wholeheartedly recommend.
 
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Already RMA'd the board got broken one (with exact same issue it seems) in return (MSI). Cannot get ahold of customer support, won't let me online RMA. Just outright buying a new one.
 
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never had any major issues reusing an OS after a complete hardware change. In fact, I've had a HD with a W7 Ult 64bit install on it that was used in several different computers ranging from an XP 3200 to a Q9650, to a i5 860, to a Phenom II 960, to a i7 2600k, without a single reformat. Everything worked after a phone call to Intel and uninstalling/installing drivers everytime.
The O.P. stated they have Windows 8.1, which is tied in to the BIOS. ie: the activation key is stored there.
Previous versions of Windows could be transferred multiple times and used as long as only one system was in use at any given time.
 
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Already RMA'd the board got broken one (with exact same issue it seems) in return (MSI). Cannot get ahold of customer support, won't let me online RMA. Just outright buying a new one.

Yikes! That's the 1st instance I've heard of bad RMA from MSI.

I wasn't kidding about my recommendation.
I've had that board and it was good.
I had this one, too: http://valid.canardpc.com/2897134
 

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Also..the Biostar board has better components,is stronger, and has more features in the BIOS
than any AsRock 1150 except Z97 OCF ATX.

Yeah...no. Even the Extreme4 that I posted is better than that Biostar.

The Biostar board doesn't have better components. It uses bog standard chokes and Low RDs MOSFETS for the CPU VRM. The Extreme4 uses standard chokes as well, but uses better Dual-stack MOSFETS. At the same time the Biostar is actually using standard MOSFETS for the RAM power while the AsRock is using Low RDs MOSFETS. The Biostar has dual-GBe(big deal, no one cares) but uses the Realtek chipset, the Extreme4 uses an Intel GBe chipset. The Intel chipset is better, quality over quantity counts here. The AsRock board uses Nichicon caps, I can't ID the Biostar caps right away(which is never good and probably means they aren't as high of quality as Nichicon). Also, I'd just like to point out that Biostar falsely advertises their board as having 100% Solid caps, but there are clearly electrolytic caps on the board...shame on your Biostar!

The Biostar board definitely isn't stronger. I've partially explained above why. All the MOSFETS are a step down in the Biostar board compared to the AsRock. But also the Biostar board only has a 10-Phase VRM while the AsRock is 12-Phase. Though, lets be honest here, unless you are using extreme cooling any Z97 board will do fine with overclocking and the CPU VRM won't really matter. You chip is going to determine the maximum overclock more than the motherboard. Though I wouldn't use the board with 4-Phase VRMs for overclocking just out of principle.

I'm not sure about features in the BIOS because I've never used the Biostar board, but I can say their wasn't a single feature missing from the Extreme4 that I wish it had. And I will say I LOVE AsRock's ability to do an internet flash of the BIOS from inside the BIOS. It is so nice. Does Biostar do that?

And while we are talking about features, lets actually talk about features. The Biostar board doesn't have SLI, the AsRock board does. The Biostar board only has two PCI-E x16 slots, the AsRock has 3. The AsRock board has SATA Express, the Biostar doesn't. The AsRock board has 8 SATA 6Gb/s ports, the Biostar has 6. The Biostar board uses the older ALC892, the AsRock uses the newer(and some say substantially better) ALC1150. The AsRock board has Displayport, the Biostar doesn't. The AsRock board has 6 USB3.0 ports on the back panel, the BioStar has only 4.

And I know this isn't a functional thing, but the AsRock board looks a heck of a lot better than the Biostar. The Biostar has that horrible brown poop colored PCB that cheap "black" motherboard have while the AsRock is a true black PCB. I know it isn't anything that affect the performance of the motherboard, but that poop brown colored PCB just bugs the crap out of me, and saddly even good manufacturers like ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte are all releasing boards with the brown PCB...

Funny you say ASRock support is bad as they have always responded to me within hours of asking them. Unlike ASUS and a good chance they will send the same thing back to you with no changes lol.

Support is always hit and miss when dealing with large companies. A lot of times it comes down to whoever is handling your particular case. Also, a lot of the time the problem isn't the motherboard's fault. People like to blame the motherboard, but when you send it in it works fine. The problem is the RAM or the Video card, or PSU, or something else. It happens a lot more than you think. It even happened to me when I sent my P5B board in to ASUS thinking it was dead. Turned out the RAM just wouldn't post at the default voltage. ASUS was actually very good at handling the RMA, but they did send me back the same board without doing anything with a note saying it was tested and it worked fine. When I called their tech support they were very helpful, we spend about an hour troubleshooting the machine. They stuck with me the whole way while I swapped out parts until we figured out it was the RAM.

The O.P. stated they have Windows 8.1, which is tied in to the BIOS. ie: the activation key is stored there.

That isn't how it works. UEFI allows you to input the product key into the BIOS, and Windows 8/8.1 will read the key from the BIOS when you install it. However, the activation key is not stored in the BIOS. Activation still works the same it always has, Windows contacts Microsoft servers and activates. It is very easy to move Windows 8/8.1 to a different computer. If your key is stored in the BIOS and you don't have a sticker with the key on it, you have two options to retrieve it. They make a tool that reads the BIOS and will extract your key, and they make a key that will read your hard drive and extract you key from that. However, with most custom built computer, like the OP's, the builder usually just buys an OEM copy of Windows that comes with the key on a sticker, so you just use that key when you re-install with the new motherboard.
 
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4 phases is enough for overclocking if you use good mosfets...
 
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Biostar uses good quality chokes,10-phase 1.0 uh Ferrite ,and power-Pak mosfets,AsRock Extreme4 is 6+2 phase (same chokes) with D-pak mosfets..(lower(lowest?) quality)Biostar also has LN2 jumper and full voltage and frequency ranges..even before LN2 jumper.
m.2..
I had an Extreme4 for all of 2 hours before I realized it would not run my RAM properly.
There's no BIOS update to fix limited options in BIOS.
source for info: http://www.sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.png
I've also had:
z87x-OC x2
Hi-Fi z87x 3d
Maximus VII Gene.

I like the Gene the best but..It carries a price premium.

@ Newtekie:You are mistaken about the quality and phases of AsRock Extreme4.
Same quality chokes as Biostar (less of) and inferior quality mosfets (and also less of)
..you are also mistaken about the SATA express..
I will leave it @ that.
I don't care what a board looks like,as long as it does what i want it to.
edit:It does use NexFet ..and doublers.
 
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Ehh it has nexfets, 12 of em

it=Z97 Extreme4
 

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@ Newtekie:You are mistaken about the quality and phases of AsRock Extreme4.
Same quality chokes as Biostar (less of) and inferior quality mosfets (and also less of)
..you are also mistaken about the SATA express..
I will leave it @ that.
I don't care what a board looks like,as long as it does what i want it to.

No, read your chart again, you are mistaken. 6+2/6+2 means 12 primary phases and 4 secondary. Learn to read the chart you post.

The Extreme4 uses nexFET, Biostar uses PowerPak(lower quality and also less of).

And how am I mistaken about SATA Express. The Biostar board clearly doesn't have it in any shape or form and the Extreme4 does. There is no mistaking that.

Get your facts straight and learn to read the chart you provided.

Ehh it has nexfets, 12 of em

it=Z97 Extreme4

I'm done arguing with this guy, he can't even read the chart he posts...

The Biostar board isn't better, it is worse in so many ways. And the Extreme4 has run any RAM I've put in it.
 
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The 6+2 doesn't really mean anything with Haswell, just means you have 2 extra phases that are not being used, unless the +2 is for the memory, in which case the chart should say so. Regardless, the Extreme4 uses a 6 phase doubled config, resulting in 12 phases operating in pairs, at 40A each, compared to 38A (at 100c, 20c is unrealistic for these devices) with 10A each, more importantly the TIs are much higher quality, I mean who even uses Sinopower fets...

Where is this sata express on the biostar board BTW, because I can't see one.

About what the OP should get, I say Z97-A
 

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The 6+2 doesn't really mean anything with Haswell, just means you have 2 extra phases that are not being used, unless the +2 is for the memory, in which case the chart should say so. Regardless, the Extreme4 uses a 6 phase doubled config, resulting in 12 phases operating in pairs, at 40A each, compared to 38A (at 100c, 20c is unrealistic for these devices) with 10A each

I was always under the impress that the extra +2 phases were dedicated to the integrated chipset/IMC. But I could be wrong.

more importantly the TIs are much higher quality, I mean who even uses Sinopower fets...

That is probably why the FET score for the Extreme4 is higher than the Biostar...but we'll just keep that between us.;)
 

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Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC
Storage ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner
Display(s) LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz
Case Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse Kone burst Pro
Keyboard EVGA Z15
Software Windows 11 +startisallback
+2 is indeed dedicated to dram power or at least it is on this board bios has dedicated phase control settings for the dram
+2 on avoiding bio star ...
 
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Let's see your results with that Extreme4 :p
:laugh:

..guarantee there'll be 0 instances of CAS9 @ 26-2800Mhz

It won't provide enough juice for that ;)
 
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Cooling Enermax ETX-T50RGB
Memory CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4RL 3600 1:1 micron e-die
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC
Storage ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner
Display(s) LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz
Case Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse Kone burst Pro
Keyboard EVGA Z15
Software Windows 11 +startisallback
Joined
Apr 15, 2013
Messages
1,261 (0.31/day)
System Name Some computer stuff
Processor Mostly Intel or AMD
Motherboard ATX or mATX
Cooling Bong Cooler
Memory DDR2-4
Video Card(s) A few
Storage Plenty Platters or SSDs or USBs
Display(s) Samsung 23"
Case 5 on the floor
Audio Device(s) There's one for my M7 Gene, Oh I have 3-4 PCI 5.1 ones.Sabrent! lol
Power Supply 750-1000W
Mouse cheap
Keyboard Used ps2 from garage sales
Software Yeah
Benchmark Scores http://hwbot.org/user/schmuckley/#Hardware_Library http://valid.canardpc.com/rbjpbg
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