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How can Logitech speakers sound "ok" hahahaha?

mine, no matter what still sound like a buffalo taking a dump on chewbacca's head.

my z5500's still sound better than my car audio, so i consider them ok :p
 

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How can Logitech speakers sound "ok" hahahaha?

By upgrading the soundcard. ;)

Yeah they're sort of crappy, but they're ok. It's hard to dial back on sound quality, so actually I'm sort of afraid to upgrade.
 
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I even hooked em up to my DAC/Amp and they still sound like shit.

When I can afford it I'm gonna just get active monitor speakers like the KRKs or somethin.

or even go the AV reciever+ speakers route if I wanna take a break from headphones.

Been itchin for more audio stuff lately but I hate being broke from being screwed over so much :(
 
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Had too many patients in repair from them... Their active amps are relict gainclones from 90, most of them suffer from ground loops and noises, and most bizarre thing they have a black epoxy coating inside... that tends to conduct, thus cause all sort of funny things including blown tweeters, noise, crackling(see the pics). Also their SPL is curved as a camels back... really don't deserve any kind of credit. They are besides with Behringer in my worst PA equipment counterfakers, pardon manufacturers.

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THE BEE HAS BEEN SUMMMOOOONNEEEEEEED


i'm glad that i can enjoy quality audio, but don't require it. i lack the funds to reach bee levels of audioness.
 
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lots of new headphones out too...

Oppo PM-3 ($399)
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my HD600 still great lol
 
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Question if I have on board realtek with the creative options not loaded for it yet I use the hdmi out of my 7970 and its audio into a suround proccesor am I right thinking its purely the gpus audio tech in use?
 

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Question if I have on board realtek with the creative options not loaded for it yet I use the hdmi out of my 7970 and its audio into a suround proccesor am I right thinking its purely the gpus audio tech in use?

yes. the motherboards audio is not used.
 
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I do get ckicks and noise on startup and occasionally but mostly its quite good with four towers im saving for a base unit
 
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T. i lack the funds to reach bee levels of audioness.

It just a matter of your experience... it actually doesn't cost that much to get a proper analog setup(with no digital parts and not with a integrated IC at the end). There are many stars in the ol' good early eighties, like some models of Fishers, Yamaha, Sanyo, Kenwoods, Quads that during that time didn't cheap out on most components for the sake of more bling, also the same with bookshelf or florstanding speakers, they look ugly maybe, you can redo the case, repaint etc as you wish, just keep the internal volume and acoustic shelf system same. They are available at local garage/ad sales for a rubbish price, replace caps, certain opamps and jacks and the thing will blow out of water many modern solutions, and the sellers usually doesn't understand what is it, as usually it belonged to an elder who had kicked the bucket recently and others hurry to clean up the space, harsh but true. So if you wish something it usually ain't only solvable with a lot of dough and actually this way is more fun. Opening up some old pieces bring many revelations and the level sophistication is sometimes astonishing it screams - expensive.

Audio quality perception to one is subjective... but one thing is sure... crap means crap to everyone :D I understand that many sympathize to active speakers, as there is less hassle, but most of them have circuitry that I've replicated when I was only 12 and if it is a DSP based power amp solution their quality is usually worse than an very old Realtek dynamic wise... and IF not - it costs an arm an leg, just because it is costly to maintain level of quality - imagine Pagani Zonda...
 

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I have just changed to a SB Live! 24 bit that I had lying arround. I recommend using the support pack driver by Daniel_K.
It's A LOT better than on board, not great but at least .flac files sound like they should, plus my headphones are inexpensive.
 
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I have an SVS PB-2000 as the sub for this PC's sound system, and even in this tiny room, which causes havoc with LF sounds, it is phenomenal. Powerful and sublime. It makes already great sounding bookshelf speakers come alive, almost 3D now. I can't recommend SVS enough. Best customer service, too.
 

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I have an SVS PB-2000 as the sub for this PC's sound system, and even in this tiny room, which causes havoc with LF sounds, it is phenomenal. Powerful and sublime. It makes already great sounding bookshelf speakers come alive, almost 3D now. I can't recommend SVS enough. Best customer service, too.

Typically in good audio comes with good speaker matching to, so maybe you should note the speakers that you use as well.
 
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Well... I will be sentimental... I am just drunk... I hope @silentbogo will like it... @BumbleBee also, OTL tube ones is my fetish sound wise.. the juice... Just like Iron Maiden is... :pimp:. I haven't got the voltage regulator board - LR8 that I drawed... To finish the puppy... But that is the taste, like one likes more blondes... Or brunetes etc...


I am using my Ti HD as sauce then as speaker... Celestion vintage 30. Yes a guitar speaker for home... It is is the most boring - linear speaker... But sensitive 100db as paper gets... I can tam its working spectrum from 200-300 to 2KHz.... And let him sing in my heavy music taste.... I play around different setups... And... Each style of music asks for for different setup... If one fits for all, it really fits for no one. Syphonic/metal, jazz/soul dnb etc new style shit... You cannot have from any world.
 
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Nice setup. Makes me wanna make a tube amp myself.

I'm not too preferential about my audio - been using these homemade bluetooth headphones for almost a year now. Getting solid 10-12 hours of Metal :rockout: with a new battery. Since then I've fixed the sound quality with better caps and extended a PCB antenna through the head mount, so now I can listen music even when I'm working downstairs.

 
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These (the A-200s) are going to be my next purchase. I wish I could find any decent english review/article for you guys - but there seems to be none.

Headphone wise I am still in love with my Sennheiser HD 598 + Essence STX (blows every Creative soundcard out of the water) combo.
 
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Typically in good audio comes with good speaker matching to, so maybe you should note the speakers that you use as well.
VERY SORRY FOR NOT FOLLOWING UP HERE BEFORE NOW.

You're absolutely correct. I have a very large L-shaped desktop, so not only is my PC sitting up here, but two sets of bookshelf speakers

B&W 601se, and a pair of vintage KEF C-40 dual 8" driver mini-towers ( I have them upside down, as the tweets were too high up. )

I have everything connected to a brand-new z99 gaming system, and I ditched the sound card, altogether. The DAC in this Sony 7.1ch cheapo is good enough for me. The sound is incredible. although I admit that it is only setup for near-field enjoyment.

I have lots of speakers to play around with, and though I have 3 competent center channel speakers, I haven't used any, and the setup is 2.1 stereo. That's because with the speakers arrayed in front and slightly to my sides, I get plenty of situational sound that I can hear enemies coming up behind me just fine. I haven't found a need for surround sound as yet.
 
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I'd of late swapped out my soundcards in my various rigs in favor of an external DAC/amp combo/stack. Only rigs with soundcards now are my HTPC rig (Auzentech X-Fi Forte) and my main gaming rig (with a set of Logitech Z5500) since no simulated surround on headphones can ever match physical 5.1 speaker system. I have a set of Klipsch PM2.1 and Focal XS Book which I'm keeping for use next time when I shift back to my house.
 

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i need to update my system specs, i upgraded my audio setup pretty severely a while back
 
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