Humans with low back pain have vertebrae similar to chimps

twilyth · May 9, 2015

The research team analysed the vertebrae of chimpanzees, orangutans and ancient human skeletons to investigate the relationship between the shapes of the bones of the spine, upright movement and the health of the human spine.

Prof Mark Collard, from the University of Aberdeen and Simon Fraser University in Canada, said they provided valuable insights into our ancestors' health and lifestyles.

The skeletons also provided information about how humans evolved to move on two "rear" legs.

"Our findings show that the vertebrae of humans with disc problems are closer in shape to those of our closest ape relatives, the chimpanzee, than are the vertebrae of humans without disc problems."

The research picked up that these individuals have a lesion called a Schmorl's node - a small hernia which can occur in the disc between the vertebrae.

Although there is not one cause for the node, it is thought to be linked to stress and strain on the lower back.

Evolution is not perfect, so over many thousands of years humans have not all adapted in the same way.

Prof Collard said: "Our study suggests that the pathological vertebrae of some people may be less well adapted for walking upright."

MxPhenom 216 · May 9, 2015

Or they they burst fractured their L1 like me a few years ago.

the54thvoid · May 9, 2015

Explains why I like bananas and climbing.

Liquid Cool · May 10, 2015

The stuff these professors come up with to justify their jobs is amazing.

Best,

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dorsetknob · May 10, 2015

No Politicians took part in this Study as they lack Spine's

jboydgolfer · May 10, 2015

ahhhh....and all this time I thought it was from being a contractor for all of those years...

Damn Apes

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · May 10, 2015

Im really not sure about this

MrGenius · May 10, 2015

I find sitting "chimp style" provides a good deal of lower back pain relief(due to lengthening/stretching of the lower spine I presume). Coincidence? Maybe not...

twilyth · May 10, 2015

I can't tell whether or not you were serious, but either way, that cracked me up. :toast:

MrGenius · May 10, 2015

If I claim I was being serious (as was the case), I hope that doesn't detract too much from the humorous element(which was unintentional).

Mussels · May 10, 2015

This explains my back pain, my body hair and my tail.

Champ · May 10, 2015

Mussels said:
This explains my back pain, my body hair and my tail.

You could be one of these guys:

FireFox · May 10, 2015

Now I feel better knowing that all 3 Banane that i eat everyday before I go to Gym it helps.

natr0n · May 10, 2015

When it comes to back pain; I don't monkey around.

damric · May 10, 2015

Yes, stretching chimp style does seem to help my lower back pain. It could be coincidence though.

JunkBear · May 10, 2015

Explain why I like to scratch my butt and smell my fingers. Oh wait....

Caring1 · May 10, 2015

damric said:
Yes, stretching chimp style does seem to help my lower back pain. It could be coincidence though.

I think I just threw up a little

And further studies show no difference in vertebrae to humans that don't suffer from lower back pain.

dorsetknob · May 10, 2015

damric said:
Yes, stretching chimp style does seem to help my lower back pain. It could be coincidence though.

Is that a Dyke cannot tell from that view

Caring1 · May 10, 2015

dorsetknob said:
Is that a Dyke cannot tell from that view

Go ahead and stick your finger in and find out Dutchboy :roll:

ChevyOwner · May 10, 2015

Champ said:
You could be one of these guys:

I think you're on to something. We just need to learn to fly.

HossHuge · May 10, 2015

I started sleeping on the floor a few weeks ago because of lower back pain. Maybe I'm going back to my roots? Funny thing is, I feel much better.

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