Overheating Fx 8350 (Solved)

[PepperDude]

Hello,

I have a problem and I really need help. I have a self build computer with components i got from http://www.mindfactory.de/. And I build in a
Amd Fx 8350
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-FX-Series-FX-8350-8x-4-00GHz-So-AM3--BOX_818298.html

And a be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 Tower Cooler to cool it
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/be-quiet--Shadow-Rock-2-Tower-Kuehler_891967.html

My problem is that I use my pc for gaming, and the CPU is in Desktop mode already on 59C° (61C° Is heat limit before it has to cooldown)

So I play and my pc slows down every few second because my cpu is on 61C° and to cool it down it gets throttled to 50%
OHM (Open Hardware Monitor) is giving me the information that my CPU is on 42C° while the SpeedFan tool says me it is 10 degree warmer, but it throttles the pc down when the Speed Fan tool says its on 61 degree!

I dont know wich programm to beleve but i know that my CPU is killing my game experence.

Pc Setup:

CPU : Amd Fx 3850

GPU : Geforce Gtx 980 (Reference)
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...X-980-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_976946.html

Cooler : be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 Tower Cooler

Ram : 16 GB TeamGroup Xtreem
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...eiss-DDR3-2133-DIMM-CL11-Dual-Kit_945557.html

Mainboard : ASRock 990 Fx Extreme 3
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...AM3--Dual-Channel-DDR3-ATX-Retail_765694.html

Power Supply : 630 Watt be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM Modular 80+
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...re-Power-L8-CM-Modular-80--Bronze_757839.html


I would really appreciate if someone here could help me! (And Im sorry for my bad english)

Thanks in advance

 

[RCoon]

CPU is in Desktop mode already on 59C°

That's bad. Very bad.

Maximum temps for an AMD CPU are ~65 degrees C (68 to be precise, but always be under).
At desktop you want to be in the 30-40 degree range, hitting the 50-60's when fully loaded. I would consider either repasting the CPU, or reseating the cooler, as the heat exchange obviously isn't happening properly.

Either that or you've got it overclocked and you're pumping 1.5V into the CPU and that's causing it to overheat. Most I ever put through an 8350 was 1.48v on watercooling.

 

[Jborg]

How is case air flow?

IMO you should try using AMD Overdrive to get an accurate temp on that processor. The thermal Margin will be more accurate.

However, I am using an FX 8350 w/ a GTX 970 and it slaughters most games I play on 1080p without even coming near 60 celcius....

Im running a Hyper 212 EVO @ 4.5ghz...

I believe you may have the same issue I had originally with buying my 8350, I was using an ASRock 970 Extreme 4 and the power phases would not allow the 8350 to run at full potential. It only has 4 + 1 Power Phase Design...

 

[PepperDude]

Okay first thanks for all the fast (really fast) replies on my post!

At first i forgot to say that i never oveclocked... So the kernels should be on normal frequency.

But now i have 3 Programs.. and every one of them shows me something else! : https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1f9m6w0o4hhlnr/dsgaddg.PNG?dl=0

The Air case flow should be normal.. or at least enaught!

I guess i really have to repaste my CPU then :/

 

[Caring1]

I believe you may have the same issue I had originally with buying my 8350, I was using an ASRock 970 Extreme 4 and the power phases would not allow the 8350 to run at full potential. It only has 4 + 1 Power Phase Design...

The 990FX Extreme 3 has the same power phase, a 4 plus 1. That may be the issue, even though the website says designed for the 8 core.

 

[PepperDude]

The 990FX Extreme 3 has the same power phase, a 4 plus 1. That may be the issue, even though the website says designed for the 8 core.

And how can i fix the issue i mean the mainboard should at least support the CPU its made for

 

[Caring1]

And how can i fix the issue i mean the mainboard should at least support the CPU its made for

It should, and the stock cooler should do the job it is designed for also, but it doesn't, at least not adequately.
You can try an after market cooler, and leave the CPU at stock clocks, or upgrade the Motherboard for one with a better power phase, another option is finding an 8 core with a lower power consumption.

 

[Norton]

It should, and the stock cooler should do the job it is designed for also, but it doesn't, at least not adequately.
You can try an after market cooler, and leave the CPU at stock clocks, or upgrade the Motherboard for one with a better power phase, another option is finding an 8 core with a lower power consumption.

Downclocking to 3.6Ghz (18x multiplier) should help w/o impacting performance significantly.

Also, get a fan blowing on the VRM section of your board to get the heat out of there- those Asrock Extreme 3 and 4 boards will throttle the cpu if the VRM's get too hot.

 

[Jborg]

The 990FX Extreme 3 has the same power phase, a 4 plus 1. That may be the issue, even though the website says designed for the 8 core.

I thought the same thing when I discovered this problem myself...... The motherboard clearly says right on it.... Supports 8 Core Technology or whatever, only to find out later the Vishera's were not fully stable on these boards. This is litterally the same exact problem I had though.

I would say go for a new MOBO if your able too. Thats what I ended up doing just to completely solve the problem right then and there. Good luck with it though.

Edit: Let me rephrase, This was not the EXACT problem I had.... I mixed up 2 different posts... However I believe it may be related to the power phases as mentioned, I was originally getting random shutdowns and throttling on my 970 Extreme 4. Its running abnormally hot though its its near 60 celcius on the desktop

 

[rhino]

Me thinks your ambient room temp might be a factor.
Check your in and out fans are blowing though nicely and that the fan on the CPU cooler is actually working. The through flow has a greater influence on the CPU temp than the CPU fans.
If the temp in the box is hot the CPU fan will just blow hot air over the cooler.
Slap another fan on it anyway, so one is pushing and one is pulling.
Check or try to remember if you applied the thermal paste appropriately or at all, the cooler you have is more than adequate.
If your playing games, you must up the fan speed.

 

[PepperDude]

Me thinks your ambient room temp might be a factor.
Check your in and out fans are blowing though nicely and that the fan on the CPU cooler is actually working. The through flow has a greater influence on the CPU temp than the CPU fans.
If the temp in the box is hot the CPU fan will just blow hot air over the cooler.
Slap another fan on it anyway, so one is pushing and one is pulling.
Check or try to remember if you applied the thermal paste appropriately or at all, the cooler you have is more than adequate.
If your playing games, you must up the fan speed.

I made what Norton Said and i clocked my CPU down i can play now... but i will get a second fan or have to figure out how to speed the cpu fan up...
anyways.. it worked and i really have to thank you all ^^

 

[rhino]

Shouldn't have to clock it down though.
Good, put another fan on the CPU cooler but it's the case fans (front and back) that need to blast through the case, these are the fans that you need to speed up.
What case do you have?

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Try repasting the cooler and also check the cpu settings in the bios specifically the voltage settings.. No way you should be hitting 50c it idle. I have oc'd 8350's with air coolers that are bearly in the 40's under full load. No need to throttle it down especially when you only game with it.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I would think it should be a little lower at idle and the loaded temps are way to high.

 

[peche]

is the fan pushing fresh air trough cooler fins and heatpipes?

And a be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 Tower Cooler to cool it
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/be-quiet--Shadow-Rock-2-Tower-Kuehler_891967.html

Thermal compound used on that cooler?
Regards,

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Rhino is spot on, more fans better cooling but personally I would get some decent thermal paste as well and reseat the heatsink too.

 

[rhino]

So, I've just noticed you're running RAM at 2133MHz.
The FX CPUs don't like RAM that fast, 1866 is max for smooth running.
Obviously, you can use this stuff but it will just be clocked down and possibly cause running issues.
So one more thing to try would be to switch out some lower speed RAM and see what happens.

 

[PepperDude]

At first i fixed the issue... I bought more fans that now pump air in my case like hell! And i addet a pulling fan to my cpu like rhino said and now i clocked it back to 200 x 20 (Yeah changing the air flow can help very much!)

Thanks for the help but i guess my mistake was just to think that the cpu fan could cool the cpu alone!

So thanks it helped me alot!

Btw my CPU is now on 40-50 C°

 

[Devon68]

Btw my CPU is now on 40-50 C

Is that on idle or under load?

 

[PepperDude]

40 (idle) -50 (under load)

 

[Countryside]

At first i fixed the issue... I bought more fans that now pump air in my case like hell! And i addet a pulling fan to my cpu like rhino said and now i clocked it back to 200 x 20 (Yeah changing the air flow can help very much!)

Thanks for the help but i guess my mistake was just to think that the cpu fan could cool the cpu alone!

So thanks it helped me alot!

Btw my CPU is now on 40-50 C°

Glad to hear it and now happy gaming

 

[OneMoar]

uninstall ASrock utility and increase the thermal limit in the bios to 70C
it should't be throttling at 61C
also ignore speedfan its garbage these days

 

[PepperDude]

uninstall ASrock utility and increase the thermal limit in the bios to 70C
it should't be throttling at 61C
also ignore speedfan its garbage these days

I fully disabled it first... but it was not woring. It kept throtteling it down on 61C°! But its not longer needet bcause its not hitting the 60 anymore.

 

[shadygabi]

I made what Norton Said and i clocked my CPU down i can play now... but i will get a second fan or have to figure out how to speed the cpu fan up...
anyways.. it worked and i really have to thank you all ^^

Hello can u tell me exactly what u did ? i have the same problem and i dont know what to do, did u made it from bios ?

 

[eidairaman1]

So, I've just noticed you're running RAM at 2133MHz.
The FX CPUs don't like RAM that fast, 1866 is max for smooth running.
Obviously, you can use this stuff but it will just be clocked down and possibly cause running issues.
So one more thing to try would be to switch out some lower speed RAM and see what happens.

Mines running fine with ram at 2133 and cpu at 4.9GHz on a scythe ashura