NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti to be Based on GP102 Silicon

[Ferrum Master]

Maybe it has something to do with the fees and taxes the corporations need to pay the Socialist Eutopias of Europe.

DAFUQ?

 

[xorbe]

I have zero facts but am guessing Pascal 1080Ti / Titan will come with gddr5x. *shrug*

 

[fullinfusion]

A GTX1080 FE costs already around 800 Euros in my country which is $892....

Yup and $909 here plus tax = $1018 in Canada

Would love to see AMD drop the ball this time with cheap prices.... oh I forgot, Mark up's at the local shops

 

[wiak]

and in other new old news, AMD Fury X matches 1080 in Ashes

it might be true that the Pascal has less IPC improvements than you think
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/45056646-clarence-spurr/4884330-pascal-new-king

 

[BiggieShady]

Maybe it has something to do with the fees and taxes the corporations need to pay the Socialist Eutopias of Europe.

You got that completely backwards.

DAFUQ?

The only possible explanation is that he thinks USA based company nvidia has to pay something to the country it's exporting to. He doesn't realize that every importing business pays import tax to their own country and the cost of the tax is transferred through the distributors all the way to the shelves so the whole import tax plus profit of all the distributors in the chain is payed by a customer.
With Amazon every purchase higher than 100 euros gets held on the customs and to pick it up you have to pay up the same import tax.

 

[TheGuruStud]

it might be true that the Pascal has less IPC improvements than you think
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/45056646-clarence-spurr/4884330-pascal-new-king

I didn't know there was any improvement. Seriously. It's obviously all in the clocks.

 

[the54thvoid]

and in other new old news, AMD Fury X matches 1080 in Ashes

it might be true that the Pascal has less IPC improvements than you think
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/45056646-clarence-spurr/4884330-pascal-new-king

Depends what you quote

 

[Chaitanya]

WTF , it seems only Americans can get their new computer hardware cheap!!

yep, pretty much. In India after paying import duty and other taxes prices(in retail) of GPUs and peripherals goes up by 40-100%(Pricing also depends on greed of brand: Logitech is the worst offender in this they charge 150% extra over US prices). Thats why I import my GPUs and peripherals from US(newegg or amazon)(there is an annual limit on how much I can import without/minimum paying duty as it's for personal use and not for sale).

 

[RejZoR]

WTF , it seems only Americans can get their new computer hardware cheap!!

America is a funny place. Not only they use funny measurement units, they also like to advertise all prices without any tax (VAT) attached. Where in Europe, all prices have tax by default. That's why it seems like Americans have it so cheap. But if you throw in whatever tax they have depending on the state, you get pretty close to the prices rest of us have to pay.

 

[Goodman]

WTF , it seems only Americans can get their new computer hardware cheap!!

USA ALWAYS get their things cheaper much cheaper then the rest of the world even used cars... lol!

Here in nearby computers stores in Montréal regions the GTX 1080 start at $945 to $1005 +15% taxes (not in stoke yet)

But I don't really care as I don't really game anymore & if I were to buy a new Graphic card it would be in the $150-$200 price range , that is pretty much all I can afford in cash without getting in to debts (credit card)

 

[Slizzo]

You're paying import fees, plus the hit you take on the USD to the CAD.

If people compared prices taking everything into account, they'd find it's not TOO terrible of a price increase across the board.

$700 USD = $915 CAD

For me if I bought an FE card - $700 USD + 6.35% tax (Connecticut) = $744.45 USD = $973.29 CAD

 

[xvi]

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Assuming that's true, still only 1/32 FP64 performance? I thought the Titan was supposed to be an "Entry Level Compute" card too. Have they given up on that?

 

[Goodman]

Assuming that's true, still only 1/32 FP64 performance? I thought the Titan was supposed to be an "Entry Level Compute" card too. Have they given up on that?

Yeah! coming from guy with only 1 post/message it must be true.... troll

 

[AsRock]

USA ALWAYS get their things cheaper much cheaper then the rest of the world even used cars... lol!

Here in nearby computers stores in Montréal regions the GTX 1080 start at $945 to $1005 +15% taxes (not in stoke yet)

But I don't really care as I don't really game anymore & if I were to buy a new Graphic card it would be in the $150-$200 price range , that is pretty much all I can afford in cash without getting in to debts (credit card)

Well my dad came over to see us a few months ago (UK) and even so things might be cheaper on the electrics side he was disgusted of the prices of every thing else for example food shit you actually need, sure only talking about one state here but still. Price of food here has gone up so much it's worse than gas\petrol prices.

FYI, 700$ video cards are not on my shopping list that's for sure, shiii not even 500$ cards lol.

EDIT:
Don't even get me started on none processed dairy cheese coming in around 26+$ LB.

 

[bug]

DAFUQ?

He's right. In the US, state tax over 10% is already high, in EU, you're lucky if VAT isn't close to 20% (in some cases it's more). Plus, you can register one company in the US and do business in all 50 states. But in EU you need to set up a company in each and every state. The cost of doing business in the EU is way higher than in the US.

 

[R-T-B]

America is a funny place. Not only they use funny measurement units, they also like to advertise all prices without any tax (VAT) attached. Where in Europe, all prices have tax by default. That's why it seems like Americans have it so cheap. But if you throw in whatever tax they have depending on the state, you get pretty close to the prices rest of us have to pay.

Interstate sales tax is also a funny thing: I buy from newegg in California (I'm in Washington) for example, and have never paid tax. It's by and large, like this. If you aren't buying in your home state, no tax. We also pay precisely nada on imported packages.

 

[P4-630]

Interstate sales tax is also a funny thing: I buy from newegg in California (I'm in Washington) for example, and have never paid tax. It's by and large, like this. If you aren't buying in your home state, no tax. We also pay precisely nada on imported packages.

Lucky you... 21% VAT where I live

 

[BadIronTree]

Lucky you... 21% VAT where I live

24% in Greece
So Import them from UK with Company VAT with 0%

 

[JMccovery]

America is a funny place. Not only they use funny measurement units, they also like to advertise all prices without any tax (VAT) attached. Where in Europe, all prices have tax by default. That's why it seems like Americans have it so cheap. But if you throw in whatever tax they have depending on the state, you get pretty close to the prices rest of us have to pay.

Prices are advertised without tax, because every state/municipality has different rates.

 

[ensabrenoir]

America is a funny place. Not only they use funny measurement units, they also like to advertise all prices without any tax (VAT) attached. Where in Europe, all prices have tax by default. That's why it seems like Americans have it so cheap. But if you throw in whatever tax they have depending on the state, you get pretty close to the prices rest of us have to pay.

......because thats just how we roll

MURICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HumanSmoke]

Oh FFS. I've had to comment on this a lot on reddit.

This "article" is not an article as pointed out. The source for this is a POST ON A MESAGE FORUM, where the subject is "let's speculate on what a GP102 chip COULD LOOK LIKE".

The completely sad part of all this is, is that the original Chiphell "specifications" are just a tabulation of guesses from a 3DC forum thread.

Great job internet.

 

[rtwjunkie]

America is a funny place. Not only they use funny measurement units, they also like to advertise all prices without any tax (VAT) attached. Where in Europe, all prices have tax by default. That's why it seems like Americans have it so cheap. But if you throw in whatever tax they have depending on the state, you get pretty close to the prices rest of us have to pay.

Here in my state in the U.S. I have 9.5% sales tax between State and Local sales tax rates.

@R-T-B enjoy it while you can! Right now interstate tax compliance is voluntary at yearly tax preparation time. More and more states though are taking a good hard look at making it automatic at purchase time, due to tightening budgets and losses of revenue.

 

[efikkan]

Pigs could conceivably fly, but has anyone noticed there hasn't been a Gx102 or Gx202 chip like ever? Unless Nvidia theselves announce a GP102, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it won't happen.

Driver support has been included for GP102 since last year, so we know the chip exists, we just don't know for sure when it's coming and what kind of specs it will have. GP102 was mentioned in several sources during GTC. Plans can of course change, but the latest I've heard is that GP102 is scheduled for the end of 2016.

It's not the first time that Nvidia has a separate high-end chip for compute and graphics. In Kepler GK210 was a compute-only GPU, while GK110 was used in graphics products.

 

[R-T-B]

@R-T-B enjoy it while you can! Right now interstate tax compliance is voluntary at yearly tax preparation time. More and more states though are taking a good hard look at making it automatic at purchase time, due to tightening budgets and losses of revenue.

Particularly my state. It's still largely unenforced though, but technically Washington sales tax now applies to any purchase made by a human in Washington, even online in a different state.

 

[btarunr]

In India its already above $1000. Somehow nvidia keeps jacking prices of their gpus and it seems to work well for them as there are a lot of rearside kissers who are willing to pay those prices.

The tax-regime is more to blame. Hardware prices shot up by 20% over the last two years, and it has not just to do with USD-INR rates. Prices will come down significantly if GST bill is passed.