This Video Clip of Radeon Vega Running DOOM at 4K is Glorious

[Dethroy]

Looks like the framerate is dropping below 50 fps. I could be wrong though - very hard to tell on the phone.

 

[thesmokingman]

Oh noes... Titan X gets 80fps average..... and Pascal doesn't do Vulkan.

I'd love to see a DX11 title.....

Oh so its on the same level you say?

 

[Fluffmeister]

Looks like the framerate is dropping beneath 50 fps. I could be wrong though - very hard to tell on the phone.

Down to 37 FPS at one point.

 

[badmau5]

How fast is Pascal?

Looks like big vega is about as fast as a 1080 in Vulkan

 

[RejZoR]

They're clearly not going to do nvidias proprietary fastsync why do you keep banging on about it in every AMD GPU thread , you have not actually used freesync yet are an expert in its issues (although I've not seen any issues using it) ,are you aware they are pushing freesync 2 with Vega ,Nvidia have gsync HDR now too.

It's not proprietary. It's just a way to render frames to screen without doing half of 2 frames on same display output. I don't care how they call it, this is what it's know under NVIDIA's naming scheme/branding. Why do I keep banging about it? If no one ever does, you and I will never get it. That's why. I mean, Vega can be the most awesome graphic card in the world and I'll never buy it if it doesn't offer something similar to Fast V-Sync. And trust me, I'm not the only potential buyer. Not everyone just got a brand new FreeSync enabled monitor. I bought a high end one just before this FreeSync hype. So, you won't see me buying a new one anytime soon. So, what's better for them, pushing FreeSync tech which gives them nothing from every monitor sold or push graphic cards with such software based frame syncing tech that gives them money? But hey, who am I to teach AMD about making money...

 

[BiggieShady]

Down to 37 FPS at one point.

 

[P4-630]

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[phanbuey]

Are they using the same demo among the different sites?

In any case, what's scary is the difference between the OGL / Vulcan scores for the 480... Because if the drop between 'DOOM' and 'not DOOM' is 26% on Vega, then they're in a bit of trouble.

 

[Kohl Baas]

Pfff. Vulkan? They should show DX10 or DX9 games performance. Bring out Crysis 1! Or FarCry1!

Who cares about new API right? As long as AMD hardware excels at them they are useless. Well not until new gen GeForce cards also have great new API support. Then it will be "ZOMG it is so cool Vulkan/DX12/AsyncCompute sooooo important this is the way done right" etc. etc.

Sadly but agreed.

 

[Crap Daddy]

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Looks like big vega is about as fast as a 1080 in Vulkan

By the time vega will be out it will almost be one year since the launch of 1080. Similar performance is just not good enough. Looking at that chip Raja was holding it looked rather big with the fancy HBM2 and to perform like a midrange smallish NVidia GPU (sold for lots of money though) in AMDs favorite game is kinda sad.

 

[Kohl Baas]

By the time vega will be out it will almost be one year since the launch of 1080. Similar performance is just not good enough. Looking at that chip Raja was holding it looked rather big with the fancy HBM2 and to perform like a midrange smallish NVidia GPU (sold for lots of money though) in AMDs favorite game is kinda sad.

Vega is not going against 1080 aka Pascal. It's going for the Volta if you inspect the architecture thoroughly.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

It's not proprietary. It's just a way to render frames to screen without doing half of 2 frames on same display output. I don't care how they call it, this is what it's know under NVIDIA's naming scheme/branding. Why do I keep banging about it? If no one ever does, you and I will never get it. That's why. I mean, Vega can be the most awesome graphic card in the world and I'll never buy it if it doesn't offer something similar to Fast V-Sync. And trust me, I'm not the only potential buyer. Not everyone just got a brand new FreeSync enabled monitor. I bought a high end one just before this FreeSync hype. So, you won't see me buying a new one anytime soon. So, what's better for them, pushing FreeSync tech which gives them nothing from every monitor sold or push graphic cards with such software based frame syncing tech that gives them money? But hey, who am I to teach AMD about making money...

You confuse me , you would buy a new high end GPU if it fitted your needs but won't buy a monitor, because yours is new, soooo.
Dude sell it get a gsync one I dunno but it seams like your just pissing on AMD's chips for no reason since you love what Nvidias doing clearly and won't buy AMD unless they do exactly as you ask.
Nvidia is the software company not AMD so of course they have some admirable software features (Cuda) ,AMD leaves software largely to devs.
And with freesync I see No ghosting and no tearing , I could also switch on frame rate control if the FPS was too eratic and caused issues ,Job done , those moaning about ghosting likely had shit monitors plus freesync 2 and all its features are unknown ,you might yet get something better for free from AMD.

 

[badmau5]

By the time vega will be out it will almost be one year since the launch of 1080. Similar performance is just not good enough. Looking at that chip Raja was holding it looked rather big with the fancy HBM2 and to perform like a midrange smallish NVidia GPU (sold for lots of money though) in AMDs favorite game is kinda sad.

It will really come down to pricing. It'll also be important what type of performance Vega will yield at lower resolutions. If card is sold for say $450-475, which is possible when you consider how aggressive RX480 pricing is, then it's not a bad product at all.

 

[the54thvoid]

Vega is not going against 1080 aka Pascal. It's going for the Volta if you inspect the architecture thoroughly.

And what is Volta's architecture? If you inspect that thoroughly you'll see it has not been anywhere near released. I'd love for Vega to beat Volta, I truly would but you're smoking some strong shit if you think Vega is aimed at competing against Nvidia's next architecture which should beat Titan X performance, which Vega isn't looking like beating itself.

Your logic is lost on me. And don't say AI.

 

[phanbuey]

Vega is not going against 1080 aka Pascal. It's going for the Volta if you inspect the architecture thoroughly.

That theoretically makes it worse... Since it doesn't look like it will beat a GP102...

 

[the54thvoid]

The hardest part for me personally? I have a lovely new Lian Li case sitting waiting for a new build and Kaby Lake isn't wowing me (though it's come out at Skylake price in UK) and Vega is just a tease right now with no definite date. My 5+ year old Sandy-E is still capable and my 980ti is still serving me well. I want shiny new but AMD just love to drag their freaking heels through mud. All these hints and sneaky peeks and you have to think, erm... c'mon now, just get it out already or at least admit there's a supply issue with HBM2.

Why you tinkering so much with Vega AMD? Just slap a quad fan cooler on it, give it 3 8pin power plugs and paint it black and red and I'll be damn happy. Unless it doesn't beat Titan X.

 

[RejZoR]

You confuse me , you would buy a new high end GPU if it fitted your needs but won't buy a monitor, because yours is new, soooo.
Dude sell it get a gsync one I dunno but it seams like your just pissing on AMD's chips for no reason since you love what Nvidias doing clearly and won't buy AMD unless they do exactly as you ask.
Nvidia is the software company not AMD so of course they have some admirable software features (Cuda) ,AMD leaves software largely to devs.
And with freesync I see No ghosting and no tearing , I could also switch on frame rate control if the FPS was too eratic and caused issues ,Job done , those moaning about ghosting likely had shit monitors plus freesync 2 and all its features are unknown ,you might yet get something better for free from AMD.

Why on Earth would I buy a G-Sync monitor if I have Fast V-Sync already!?!?!??!?!! This just means I'll be forced to stick with NVIDIA. Which will in the end be AMD's loss. And you can only know how awesome Fast V-Sync is if you have ever used it. I have since day 1 when NVIDIA introduced it and it's the first thing I always enable when I reinstall drivers or OS. It's that huge of a game changer. NVIDIA can now be performance inferior against AMD and I'd still consider their products just because of this. I hope that puts its importance into perspective. And if you want to at this point a "stop being a NVIDIA fanboy" tantrum, you can just forget it. This is my first GeForce after several generations of Radeons...

 

[Kohl Baas]

And what is Volta's architecture? If you inspect that thoroughly you'll see it has not been anywhere near released. I'd love for Vega to beat Volta, I truly would but you're smoking some strong shit if you think Vega is aimed at competing against Nvidia's next architecture which should beat Titan X performance, which Vega isn't looking like beating itself.

Your logic is lost on me. And don't say AI.

Yet you imply that nVidia is competing with AMD's next architecture. Vega is not Polaris, not even GCN4 as Polaris. It's GCN5. So what are we talking about?

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Q2 2017 and no guarantee date yet. What if they delay it to Q3, then custom card will be out in Q4 just like the rx480. Is it Volta in Q4 2017?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Why on Earth would I buy a G-Sync monitor if I have Fast V-Sync already!?!?!??!?!! This just means I'll be forced to stick with NVIDIA. Which will in the end be AMD's loss. And you can only know how awesome Fast V-Sync is if you have ever used it. I have since day 1 when NVIDIA introduced it and it's the first thing I always enable when I reinstall drivers or OS. It's that huge of a game changer. NVIDIA can now be performance inferior against AMD and I'd still consider their products just because of this. I hope that puts its importance into perspective. And if you want to at this point a "stop being a NVIDIA fanboy" tantrum, you can just forget it. This is my first GeForce after several generations of Radeons...

I think you should find a different thread to rant in personally , you have not tried freesync so your opinions on it are overstated, your opinion of fastsync I respect ,but I think , given you have used no other type bar bogo vsync (ie no freesync or gsync)you are overstating the point and repeatedly.

 

[the54thvoid]

Umm, Pascal came out last May. It preceded Polaris. By chronological logic, Pascal does not compete with Vega, it pretty much stood alone.
Pascal however looks (going by the 'flagship' Vega Vulkan Doom bonanza) like it compares favourably with Vega.
Vega will compete with Pascal because Volta does not yet exist. Besides, Volta is also a next gen architecture and we all accept Pascal is a stop gap between Maxwell and Volta.
Pascal, Nvidia's rushed out (off the roadmap) Maxwell refresh is still at its top tier, looking to be Vega beating.
Lord knows I hope I'm wrong because like I have said time again, I will happily buy Vega if it beats GP 102.

 

[RejZoR]

I think you should find a different thread to rant in personally , you have not tried freesync so your opinions on it are overstated, your opinion of fastsync I respect ,but I think , given you have used no other type bar bogo vsync (ie no freesync or gsync)you are overstating the point and repeatedly.

I literally see no need to spend money on stupid hardware based solutions which will become outdated in whatever time where software based Fast V-Sync is how should I call it, eternal. It doesn't matter what screen I have or what GeForce. It'll just always be there and do its job. Unlike all this bullshit with FreeSync this and G-Sync that. What shocks me more is people jumping on the FreeSync/G-Sync hype bandwagon and hardly anyone raving about how awesome Fast V-Sync is. That baffles me the most out of everything...

EDIT:
Let me put this a bit differently. They can build all this hype around hardware capabilities of Vega, but if someone, anyone could confirm it would also bring in enhanced software based V-Sync (like Fast V-Sync from NVIDIA), I'd be sold this very moment. I'd want Vega regardless after that point.

 

[D1RTYD1Z619]

My Founders Edition GTX 1080 gets about 65 frames per second in 4k overclock to 2000 megahertz in Battlefield 1 with AA turned off but everything else maxed out in dx11. I would love to see if this card can come close. I really really want AMD to kick Nvidia in the balls and start gobbling up more of their market share

 

[efikkan]

Why on Earth would I buy a G-Sync monitor if I have Fast V-Sync already!?!?!??!?!! This just means I'll be forced to stick with NVIDIA. Which will in the end be AMD's loss. And you can only know how awesome Fast V-Sync is if you have ever used it.

Adaptive synchronization(like G-Sync) is not the same as Fast Sync, they are not even remotely comparable. Fast Sync is just a smarter V-Sync with triple buffering, it reduces latency because the GPU still keeps generating frames and the screen displays the latest whenever it's ready. It's basically how V-Sync should have worked all along, I don't know why we didn't get this 15 years ago…

While Fast Sync is better than traditional V-Sync, it's still nothing like gaming with G-Sync.

 

[TheGuruStud]

I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but the benchmark can have much higher framerate than actual gameplay. The levels vary a lot. So, there is no way to compare Titan X and (likely gimped from low clocks/crap drivers) Vega unless they're playing on the same level in the same area.

This would be the best time to sand bag the shit out of Vega if AMD is smart. Let Nvidia dump all their production into a cut down Titan X, then unload a much faster Vega. But, AMD probably isn't smart enough or they know Nvidia has more moles.