Intel EIST disabled/enabled

[Tibor Hazafi]

Hi all,
My simple question is that would I reach smoother fps in games, if I turn off intel EIST technology in BIOS?
I have a haswell i5 CPU with GTX 980 and the fps drops make me really upset.

 

[R-T-B]

Generally? No. It used to be true that disabling it helped in OCing, but that isn't even really the case anymore.

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

Generally? No. It used to be true that disabling it helped in OCing, but that isn't even really the case anymore.

Then I don't know what should I do. I have fps drops (from 60 to 50) in almost every game.

-Power management in Control Panel set to High Performance
-All the temperatures are fine (~60 °C)
-Every CPU/GPU settings are default
-Only MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner run at the background (+ Eset Smart Security with Game mode)

 

[R-T-B]

What games and what resolution/settings? It may be normal for your specifications depending on the title and res/settings.

 

[Toothless]

Are you sure your i5 is bottlenecking? Quite a few people use i5s with even 1080s with no issues.

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

What games and what resolution/settings? It may be normal for your specifications depending on the title and res/settings.

Generally I play at 1920*1080@60Hz and High settings (with AA and V-Sync ON). At the moment I play Battlefield 1 with High preset, but there are fps drops with Normal preset as well. But the interesting thing is that only on specific maps. Some mission is smooth as butter. The former game I played was Watch Dogs (fullHD - Normal/High) in which I got constant fps drops especially while I was driving.

Are you sure your i5 is bottlenecking? Quite a few people use i5s with even 1080s with no issues.

I don't know. I wish I knew what's the problem.

 

[basco]

Vsync=off

 

[wurschti]

Vsync=off

That would be my suggestion as well

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

Vsync=off

That would be my suggestion as well

But what if I hate screen tearing? :/
And sadly there are noticeable fps drops even with disabled V-Sync (for example from 120 to 70).
I think it's a simple software setting (but what?) or maybe some kind of hardware failure.

 

[basco]

if your videocard cannot hold 60fps then it goes to 30 .......
i understand that you dont want tearing but in multiplayer shooter you really should disable vsync-it could lead to mouselags too.
there is a setting called resolution scale in %- did you play with that

maybe get 8gb ram more-cannot find the test where they said its better with 16gb

and do you have something running in background or only the game

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

if your videocard cannot hold 60fps then it goes to 30 .......
i understand that you dont want tearing but in multiplayer shooter you really should disable vsync-it could lead to mouselags too.
there is a setting called resolution scale in %- did you play with that

maybe get 8gb ram more

I hope the newest games have hidden/inbuilt triple buffering algorithm for this problem. I really hope..
Maybe I should try adaptive V-Sync via Nvidia Control Panel. But it doesn't work in every games either.

What can resolution scale help?

 

[basco]

i just asked if you changed that setting because its like playing on higher resolution
and there is a setting gpu memory restriction-you could set that to on

and yes try adaptiv
which windows version are you on?

 

[EarthDog]

EIST, etc..have nothing to do with it your frame drops.

Run adaptive, absolutely.

That said, I don't see what the problem is... the card simply can't hold 60 fps and drops down.. completely normal for your settings and the game you mention.

 

[wurschti]

I hope the newest games have hidden/inbuilt triple buffering algorithm for this problem. I really hope..
Maybe I should try adaptive V-Sync via Nvidia Control Panel. But it doesn't work in every games either.

What can resolution scale help?

I advise then too to try adaptive sync. AMD has a better option which controls fps output, but I don't know about Nvidia. Try also playing with your settings a bit. Also keep in mind that drops and shitty responsiveness is more apparent with V-sync on.
other than that I don't know what to say, that is your use case and you could try some mixed settings in the graphics menu of the game, like disabling AA and increasing the resolution scaling. Tinker with them till you find the settings that work for you

 

[droopyRO]

Subscribe to what has been said about 8GB of RAM and adaptive vsync, you could try a 144Hz monitor if you hate tearing.

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

i just asked if you changed that setting because its like playing on higher resolution
and there is a setting gpu memory restriction-you could set that to on

and yes try adaptiv
which windows version are you on?

No, I haven't changed the default advanced settings (except the preset), so resolution scale is set to 100%, and memory restriction is ON.
I use Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit.

EIST, etc..have nothing to do with it your frame drops.

Run adaptive, absolutely.

That said, I don't see what the problem is... the card simply can't hold 60 fps and drops down.. completely normal for your settings and the game you mention.

Seriously? I think a GTX 980 could handle this game smoothly at fullHD @ Normal preset. Maybe I'm wrong. And then what about Watch Dogs? It's almost a 3 years old game, and it drops as well even on Normal settings.

I advise then too to try adaptive sync. AMD has a better option which controls fps output, but I don't know about Nvidia. Try also playing with your settings a bit. Also keep in mind that drops and shitty responsiveness is more apparent with V-sync on.
other than that I don't know what to say, that is your use case and you could try some mixed settings in the graphics menu of the game, like disabling AA and increasing the resolution scaling. Tinker with them till you find the settings that work for you

Thanks, I will try.

Subscribe to what has been said about 8GB of RAM and adaptive vsync, you could try a 144Hz monitor if you hate tearing.

I wish I had one

 

[basco]

for example:
try to play with antialising post + ambient occlusion

and there is a big diff between multiplayer and single

and watch dogs is a case of its own:
http://hothardware.com/news/optimization-tips-and-tricks-for-watch-dogs

 

[EarthDog]

Slightly under 60 fps isn't smooth?? It depends on the title..you mentioned all games I play. Many games with a 980 won't hold 60 fps minimum at 1080p.

 

[newtekie1]

Are you games running off your HDD? I know in Watch Dogs, during the driving, the HDD can be the limiting factor because it can't keep up with streaming the textures as fast as they are needed. I wouldn't be surprised if the same issue is true with some of the maps of BF1.

 

[Toothless]

Some games just run like ass because they're made by assholes.

 

[brandonwh64]

I played BF1 on a GTX 970 and a i7 2600K on ultra without frame drops so I do not see why his 980 cannot

 

[EarthDog]

Where was your 2600K overclocked to? I would guess well above his locked 3.2GHz? I'd imagine 4.5GHz+ being a 2600K. That 1.3Ghz difference MORE than makes up for the 10-15% IPC differences between SB and Haswell.

 

[Tibor Hazafi]

for example:
try to play with antialising post + ambient occlusion

and there is a big diff between multiplayer and single

and watch dogs is a case of its own:
http://hothardware.com/news/optimization-tips-and-tricks-for-watch-dogs

I play the campaign.

Slightly under 60 fps isn't smooth?? It depends on the title..you mentioned all games I play. Many games with a 980 won't hold 60 fps minimum at 1080p.

Constant 50 fps wouldn't be a problem. But the drops from 60 to 50 are very noticeable and annoying (for me).

Are you games running off your HDD? I know in Watch Dogs, during the driving, the HDD can be the limiting factor because it can't keep up with streaming the textures as fast as they are needed. I wouldn't be surprised if the same issue is true with some of the maps of BF1.

I have an SSD with the OS, and an HDD with the games.

 

[FYFI13]

Subscribe to what has been said about 8GB of RAM and adaptive vsync, you could try a 144Hz monitor if you hate tearing.

I'm playing BF1 with 8 gigs of RAM without any issues. Fast sync on, 75Hz and constant 75fps. My cousin playing this game with i5 + GTX970 and also struggling with FPS drops. Perhaps CPU is holding back in both cases?

 

[EarthDog]

Constant 50 fps wouldn't be a problem. But the drops from 60 to 50 are very noticeable and annoying (for me).

turn off the frame counter...