WTF are you talking about? Repeat this? I said it once. I'm not even going to bother responding anymore. You're wrong, you're statements go against what several others have said.
Yeah you're not bothering, but still you bother to continue? That's kinda crazy. oO
The TIM is not that much better than the 4670K. And the 4670K can easily hit 4.4GHz with a decent cooler. Hell, the OP has his at 4.2GHz with a crappy 212+...
The TIM is a lot better, also explaining why the 4690K and 4790K are so much better at both stock clocks and overclocking vs. the 1st gen Haswells (4670k + 4770K). Did you actually read Anandtechs reviews or anything else about it? Yeah doesn't seem like it.
Also, you give me shit because I said my 4790K wouldn't do 4.4GHz with the stock cooler, and I'm just one person so my statement doesn't matter. But now you're using "your friends" case to prove your statements. Give me a break. You're full of it.
I'm using "my friends case" since my first post, that was way before we started our argument here. Wow.... you're also full of shit yourself. Thanks I give that back.
Ok, prove it. And I don't want "your friends" one single game difference. I want some review sites showing major differences at at least 1440p with max settings in games.
Yeah I will ask him for more than just one game. I will ask him for his Aida screenshots with way higher Cache speeds as well. Everything. No problem. Funny that you need evidence for things everyone knows who has a actual real clue about i5 + i7 of the consumer Intel platforms. Just a small hint: i7 cache has more cache connections than i5 (easy to see in CPU-Z) that's why it's faster. But yeah, keep on dreaming about being better informed than me.
What's your problem?
WTF are you basing that on? The cache defaults to a 1:1 with the base clock speed. So that 3.4GHz vs 4.0GHz. That isn't exactly "way faster". That's, what, like 15% faster clock speed. And again, kind of moot if the OP is already overclocking his processor. Which means he can easily change the cache ratio to run the 4670K's cache at 4.0GHz. And before you say anything, yes it will easily do that. I've done it with my 4670K when I had one.
Yeah just because two 4670K owners had luck with their CPUs proofs nothing, again, sorry. My friends and a lot of other i5s in mass threads where everyone posted at release, where clearly showing the i5 4670K has issues with overclocking, the i7 4770K aswell, essentially all of 1st gen Haswell because of bad TIM that got later fixed with Devil's Canyon. Everyone knows that. Everyone but you?
When are you going to stop repeating stock useless garbage? The OP is overclocking his processor. All your arguments against a stock 4670K don't apply.
Huh? I was already having a overclocked i5 4670K in mind when I was writing my stuff. At least try to understand the other person when you're having a discussion, your behaviour isn't exactly nice or of any help if you continue like this.
Show me 5 games where Hyperthreading makes a difference. I bet you can't. I bet you can't even show me 2 games where HT gives even close to 20% performance boost. I'm talking actually show me. Not just make random statements. Show me respected review sites, showing HT giving 20% performance improvements in games.
For now I'm gonna ask you the same: please give me proof that HT did NOT help, because that is exactly what you said. I don't need to defend myself because my statements made a lot of fucking sense compared to yours. You seriously say
HT is of no worth in current games that use well over 4 threads and up to 16, what a laughable statement that makes no f* sense. So again, YOU need to provide that proof. I will only provide the proof I promised from my friends, that will be easily enough.
btw. why is TPU using a i7 since many years to bench the games @ Ultra in 1080p and higher? Why waste the money, if the i5 is absolutely on the same speed level?
Yes, because it isn't. i7 is way better for gaming. Even my own 6 core 3960X had usage of 100% at
TWELVE threads in BF1 at times, at 4.5 GHz. And you still think HT is of no use when using a quad core?
I'm laughing on multiple levels right now, because you're so obviously obviously wrong and always pretend to know everything, yet you didn't catch that i7's are better than i5's since
at least 1-2 years in gaming @ high end PCs. More like 3 or 4 years I'd say.