New Build: Replacing Q6600

[magibeg]

What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.
General use with some gaming and probably playing around with some VM's. I like to overbuild for what I need, I'm hoping to get a solid 5-8 years from the build with minimum changes but still like to experience what top end feels like initially.

If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)
Currently running a 24" 1920x1200 Dell IPS monitor. Going for 60fps max settings on anything I throw at it for the next 3 years or so before needing to start to turn down settings.

What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?
Soft cap of around 2K

In what country are you purchasing your parts?
Canada

Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please)

I would like to point out I already own a Western Digital 2TB Black drive and already own the Fractal Design R5 case and Corsair ax760 PSU.

CPU
Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $489.99

CPU Cooler
Noctua - NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler $79.95

Motherboard
ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $229.00

Memory
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $263.95

Storage
Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $309.99

Video Card
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card $949.99


Case
Fractal Design - Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $127.99

Power Supply
Corsair - 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $199.99

Operating System
Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $116.75


Total: $2775.60

Let me know where my follies are and if there is any value added I can get by making adjustments. I'm considering getting a 1080ti but i'm not sure if that would be a waste of money or not. They are significantly more expensive in Canada.

Edit -
Motherboard switched out for Asrock Extreme4
Changed out CPU cooler to Noctua
Changed GTX 1080 to a different brand
Changed to 500GB M2 Drive
Changed to 1080Ti

 

[eidairaman1]

Get a 2066 or TR4 setup

 

[magibeg]

Get a 2066 or TR4 setup

So you think I should go a HEDT route then?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

So you think I should go a HEDT route then?

I do not. The rig is fine. Except id get a better cooler. 212 isnt enough for a 6 core chip imo. Id also consider an Asrock or MSI board. Asrock extreme4 is nice. Asus arent what they used to be.

 

[magibeg]

I do not. The rig is fine. Except id get a better cooler. 212 isnt enough for a 6 core chip imo. Id also consider an Asrock or MSI board. Asrock extreme4 is nice. Asus arent what they used to be.

I hadn't realized that Asus had fallen from grace. I'll go hunt for the Asrock mobo and make the change to the list. What cooler would you recommend?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I hadn't realized that Asus had fallen from grace. I'll go hunt for the Asrock mobo and make the change to the list. What cooler would you recommend?

Cryorig H7 i think is like $30 and its better than the 212. @crazyeyesreaper our cooler reviewer recommends it everytime i ask him for builds i do for other people. But if it were my build I would go with an Aio Like this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2YM-0004-00014

 

[magibeg]

Cryorig H7 i think is like $30 and its better than the 212. @crazyeyesreaper our cooler reviewer recommends it everytime i ask him for builds i do for other people. But if it were my build I would go with an Aio Like this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2YM-0004-00014

I admit I was kind of avoiding the AIO liquid coolers because I had a slight paranoia about points of failure (I know i know, not rational). It looks like the Cryorig H7 is about $45 here in Canada. Maybe I should cave and buy one of the corsair AIO's like the H100i

 

[BarbaricSoul]

What cooler would you recommend?

I admit I was kind of avoiding the AIO liquid coolers because I had a slight paranoia about points of failure (I know i know, not rational). It looks like the Cryorig H7 is about $45 here in Canada. Maybe I should cave and buy one of the corsair AIO's like the H100i

It's not irrational at all. Shit happens. And to chance $2200 worth of hardware over a AIO cooler is not the smartest thing IMHO. Pumps die, seals fail, and while this may be uncommon, it's not unheard of. Personally, I tried AIO, and after my Corsair AIO unit's pump died in the first year, I went back to air cooling and never looked back. A high-end air cooler performs just as good as the AIO coolers. As for a inexpensive recommendation, I've been really impressed with Deep Cool's heatsinks, specifically the Assassin and Lucifer models. I know, WTF is with the names, but trust me, they are very good coolers.

Here's TPU's review of the Lucifer- https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Deepcool/Lucifer/

And where you can buy it- https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00RZ8DFDY/?tag=pcp0f-20

 

[Hockster]

I've been running a Corsair H100 on a system for about 7 years, it's running perfectly. My current desktop is using an H115i that's been in two builds over 4ish years, also running perfectly fine.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I've been running a Corsair H100 on a system for about 7 years, it's running perfectly. My current desktop is using an H115i that's been in two builds over 4ish years, also running perfectly fine.

Like I said

while this may be uncommon, it's not unheard of

and considering high-end air coolers match, or atleast come within 2-3' C of what the best AIO does, it's also a unnecessary risk with +$2200 worth of computer hardware

 

[Hockster]

Anything can fail. I don't like decisions based on "what if".

 

[BarbaricSoul]

air coolers can't (well except for maybe a fan, but I always run push/pull so......)

but really, does it matter when I recommended a $55 air cooler that is very close in performance to the $139 H115 you recommended. I like to base my computer hardware decisions on price/performance levels.

 

[magibeg]

I know it's probably a minimal risk but the lucifer looks really big and heavy. I assume it won't damage the motherboard/won't interfere with ram/will fit in a fractal design r5

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I know it's probably a minimal risk but the lucifer looks really big and heavy. I assume it won't damage the motherboard/won't interfere with ram/will fit in a fractal design r5

If your worried sbout size and clearance jist get the AIO i linked. The Cooler Master Masterliquid. Doesnt use asetek pump like Corsairs which is a plus.

 

[eidairaman1]

So you think I should go a HEDT route then?

yes if you intend on going 8+ years

 

[Frick]

Don't get an OEM windows license, is about all I have to say aboot it.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

yes if you intend on going 8+ years

Give more legit reasons to go hedt, instead of one liners of zero substance. Would probably help the guy out a lot more.

 

[eidairaman1]

Give more legit reasons to go hedt, instead of one liners of zero substance. Would probably help the guy out a lot more.

so why do people put xeons in machines, why not skip the msdt that doesnt last nearly as long as a HEDT when it comes to overall performance and expansionability?

PS I do the one liners to piss people like you off, bet anything if he was asking about 2066 vs TR4 you'd want him to go 2066.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Kudos to your Old Q6600....EXCELLENT CPU for it´s time....I used one (2008-2014)before,he did the job well.........

 

[adulaamin]

It's not irrational at all. Shit happens. And to chance $2200 worth of hardware over a AIO cooler is not the smartest thing IMHO. Pumps die, seals fail, and while this may be uncommon, it's not unheard of. Personally, I tried AIO, and after my Corsair AIO unit's pump died in the first year, I went back to air cooling and never looked back. A high-end air cooler performs just as good as the AIO coolers. As for a inexpensive recommendation, I've been really impressed with Deep Cool's heatsinks, specifically the Assassin and Lucifer models. I know, WTF is with the names, but trust me, they are very good coolers.

Here's TPU's review of the Lucifer- https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Deepcool/Lucifer/

And where you can buy it- https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00RZ8DFDY/?tag=pcp0f-20

That happened to my Antec Kuhler 920. It took the board and cpu with it. After that I went back to air and I'm currently using a Noctua D15s. It's big but it does the job.

@ OP: How about changing the m.2 ssd to a regular one. I don't know if it's cheaper there but where I'm from I can get double the size fora reasonable extra amount.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I know it's probably a minimal risk but the lucifer looks really big and heavy. I assume it won't damage the motherboard/won't interfere with ram/will fit in a fractal design r5

I've been using the Assassin for a few years now on my 3930k system and I had it in my previous 2600k system. No issues. As far as the RAM is concerned, just don't get a set of RAM with a big heat spreader on it. The heat spreader on RAM is worthless anyway and is only for looks. Pick a set like the Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM, like you have selected already.

 

[Frick]

so why do people put xeons in machines, why not skip the msdt that doesnt last nearly as long as a HEDT when it comes to overall performance and expansionability?

PS I do the one liners to piss people like you off, bet anything if he was asking about 2066 vs TR4 you'd want him to go 2066.

The reason to go HEDT in this context is essentially the same reason why he got the quad core in an age of dual cores: future proofing. That is what MxPhenom wanted you to say, I think.

Personally I'd go octo Ryzen 2, but that 8700K is really nice too, and is a better overclocker so it'll last longer that way.

 

[Vya Domus]

Wait to see how Zen+ turns out. With more cores and threads and potentially higher clocks than previous it might be a better choice for your use case.

500$ for that 8700K is ridiculously expensive in my opinion. At that point your heading into TR HEDT territory.

EDIT: Noticed you're from Canada , that's still expensive for what you need , for VMs you need as many cores as possible.

 

[Ramo1203]

Things I would consider:
- The cooler is a bit meh, try and get something a tad better. If you don't wanna use watercooling, get something like a Noctua.
- The MSI GTX 1080 Duke is not as premium as the Gaming X and I haven't seen reviews of it so I choose something else.

Other than that, the rest looks nice!

 

[Filip Georgievski]

The Q6600 is still a beast for its price today second hand.
Paired with a GTX 960,970 or RX470, 480 and 8 or 16GB DDR3 Ram (if mobo supports it) would still get you decent performance for less money.

The PC you plan to put together is dope.
I would not change anything from the list right now.