Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[eidairaman1]

Replace the file that is missing or erroring out

 

[Johan45]

I gave up on it myself.Precision X does the same thing it needs DX files that would normally be in Win7 but not in 10 just an all around PITA. MSI AB works very well for my Giga RX 580 XTR

 

[psyko12]

Just out of curiosity posting it here. My system is running ok, but ram is configured as I O I O.

Here's the story...

x370 Gaming K7
1700x
GTX 1080
G.Skill 16 gb Trident Z non RGB 3200 mhz cl16 (hynix mdies)
Corsair hxi 750

Anyone here encountered debug code 0D (zero delta) on boot up?

Heres what happened. I just did my routine clean up for the rig. Tidied up cables. Unplugged 24 pin to mobo and gpu pcie power so I can clean them. Put her all back. No boot just 0D in debug. System was running fine for months now.

Reset cmos no go... My ram config was 0 I 0 I
Removed 1 ram it booted. 0 I 0 0 but everything is default.
Put back ram 0 I 0 I and applied cpu oc. Saved and rebooted. Then applied ram oc. The settings that worked before. Rebooted. Back to no post and code 0D. Whenever I change a setting for ram in 0 I 0 I it goes to 0D and cant run xmp/oc on ram.
Strangely I 0 I 0 on ram config computer works without issue and passes all stress tests.
Is my ram or board or even processor be broken? This is the 1st time I encoutered this.

As of now computer is up and mining 3 days...

Any input will do. Thanks.

P.s. I 0 I 0. Is my rough diagram for ram in mobo.

Thanks

 

[eidairaman1]

Just out of curiosity posting it here. My system is running ok, but ram is configured as I O I O.

Here's the story...

x370 Gaming K7
1700x
GTX 1080
G.Skill 16 gb Trident Z non RGB 3200 mhz cl16 (hynix mdies)
Corsair hxi 750

Anyone here encountered debug code 0D (zero delta) on boot up?

Heres what happened. I just did my routine clean up for the rig. Tidied up cables. Unplugged 24 pin to mobo and gpu pcie power so I can clean them. Put her all back. No boot just 0D in debug. System was running fine for months now.

Reset cmos no go... My ram config was 0 I 0 I
Removed 1 ram it booted. 0 I 0 0 but everything is default.
Put back ram 0 I 0 I and applied cpu oc. Saved and rebooted. Then applied ram oc. The settings that worked before. Rebooted. Back to no post and code 0D. Whenever I change a setting for ram in 0 I 0 I it goes to 0D and cant run xmp/oc on ram.
Strangely I 0 I 0 on ram config computer works without issue and passes all stress tests.
Is my ram or board or even processor be broken? This is the 1st time I encoutered this.

As of now computer is up and mining 3 days...

Any input will do. Thanks.

P.s. I 0 I 0. Is my rough diagram for ram in mobo.

Thanks

It's just the way that board and ram work together, you can alway let gigabyte tech support know that, this is why its so important to follow manual directions. I presume thats a GA board you have?

 

[YautjaLord]

@psyko12: Replace it with Samsung BDie RAM, no issues whatsoever after that. Yeah, simple as that.

After i read Hynix mdie in your post, i came to the only logical solution, had one in a form of G.Skill Ripjaws V, Hynix die, dual rank. After i switched to G.Skill Flare X, set it @ 3200MHz (with the help of K7's XMP function), completely forgot bout any issues whatsoever. Had the same or similar stuff, lots of instabilities with either 1 or 2 RAM modules, now? Barely, if no issues at all. Cheers.

P.S. 0D is like FF methink, does the RAM or CPU debug LED also on? Means it's reserved and/or waiting for responce from any of the afforementioned.

 

[Peter Evans]

Okay; hello and wellcome to all the Guys n Girls on thread.

Upgarded to Ryzen 5 1400, MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon some Vengeance LPX 2x4GB 3200 C16 sticks and Gaming RX580 8Gb; all other parts in sys-spec are from previous build.

Initial experience with MSI X370 GPC on shipped bios v.12 was....; no OC on Cpu and no A-XMP either. Was able to set memory to 2667@Default timings and Volts manually, but no stable OC on Cpu.
Immediately updated bios to v.19 and A-XMP works flawlessly; using either profile 1@3066 and 2 @3200 default timings. Have been able to set in bios Cpu@3.8Ghz default Volts ( 1.285 in MSI CC and HWINFO shows .011 less ) but was not convinced stable, so set Volts at 1.325 LLC ( 4-8 work best for me, although 1-4 also work but not enough testing ) and everthing else @Default.

Very happy with my ryZen experince so far; had X4 860K + 16GB DDR3 + R9 380; so feel a huge difference in little things; load times and general sys responsiveness etc. The Ryzen 5 1400 is an excellent choice with 4C+8T, and while mine on this board wont go past 3.9 ( @ 1.39-1,41v, was never happily stable ) everthing else is really good. Memory will do 3333@ 16-16-16-32@1.39v with no issues; cannot get 3667 to be stable yet ( does boot into bios though just not stable in windows ). Hoping to crash the 4.0 Ghz party at some point; even if my R5 1400 is recalcitrant!!!!! Not sure the extra volts and heat is worth it though ( I know its not, but still......!!!Meh )

The lack on BLC-Clock on X370 GPC is a niggle really; I would only overclock my bits further anyway..........., so probably a good thing. Any questions please ask away; have onlr read maybe first 10 or so pages of thread so will eventually get around to reading them all.

Proper GEEK, so feel free to take-the-piss and whatever; all in good fun though, so nobody take anything i say or comment on personally. Lurked here and other forums for decades and only occasionally motivated to sign up and comment. Last year was spectacular for the re-amergance of AMD into High-end again and this year looks to be even better; already thing of upgrading Cpu when refresh comes out later on, Maybe 4C+8T Raven Ridge APU ( in the vain and forlorne hope that explicit-multi-adapter EVER becomes more than a point on a summary table or slide-deck!!!!!! ), or a really cheap 17/1800 X.

 

[psyko12]

It's just the way that board and ram work together, you can alway let gigabyte tech support know that, this is why its so important to follow manual directions. I presume thats a GA board you have?

@psyko12: Replace it with Samsung BDie RAM, no issues whatsoever after that. Yeah, simple as that.

After i read Hynix mdie in your post, i came to the only logical solution, had one in a form of G.Skill Ripjaws V, Hynix die, dual rank. After i switched to G.Skill Flare X, set it @ 3200MHz (with the help of K7's XMP function), completely forgot bout any issues whatsoever. Had the same or similar stuff, lots of instabilities with either 1 or 2 RAM modules, now? Barely, if no issues at all. Cheers.

P.S. 0D is like FF methink, does the RAM or CPU debug LED also on? Means it's reserved and/or waiting for responce from any of the afforementioned.

Apparently it's a bug with bios and how it hates memory settings or xmp profiles.
Clearing the cmos via the jumper made it work again and I was able to put up the same old overclocking settings that I have before.
Gahhhhh... Either I'll wait for the x470's or replace ram (w/c here in our place costs as much as this board! LOL)

Anyway thanks for the quick response!

 

[eidairaman1]

Apparently it's a bug with bios and how it hates memory settings or xmp profiles.
Clearing the cmos via the jumper made it work again and I was able to put up the same old overclocking settings that I have before.
Gahhhhh... Either I'll wait for the x470's or replace ram (w/c here in our place costs as much as this board! LOL)

Anyway thanks for the quick response!

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Ive only noticed GA boards being a little more sensitive to memory...

 

[theonek]

Ive only noticed GA boards being a little more sensitive to memory...

Not only Gigabyte mobos are sensitive to ram. My Dominator couldn't run above 2666 on asrock mobo...

 

[YautjaLord]

Replace the file that is missing or erroring out

The .dll file i talk about, according to what i googled is vcredist_x64/86. Once i clicked on it (Aorus Graphics Engine), it gave the "mfc120u.dll is missing" n shit. I googled for it, says it's either vcredist 2013, or 2008 that needs to be installed, laughed when saw the "vcredist is a complete mess & this utility's not worth a f*ck" in some forum or reddit, came to the only conclusion MSI Afterburner is the one to use. Thanx regardless, will keep searching for solution to this problem.

 

[Johan45]

The .dll file i talk about, according to what i googled is vcredist_x64/86. Once i clicked on it (Aorus Graphics Engine), it gave the "mfc120u.dll is missing" n shit. I googled for it, says it's either vcredist 2013, or 2008 that needs to be installed, laughed when saw the "vcredist is a complete mess & this utility's not worth a f*ck" in some forum or reddit, came to the only conclusion MSI Afterburner is the one to use. Thanx regardless, will keep searching for solution to this problem.

For future reference when you NEED to get something working that relates to the Visual C++ Redistributable Packages from MS I always install the x86 and x64 packages for whatever year it's complaining about

 

[YautjaLord]

Ditto. Both x86 & x64 versions of vcredist 2008 & 2010 actually. I think either AGE's bitching about lack of eXtreme Graphics Engine, or GB programmers coded AGE out of their asses. Thanx regardless.

 

[psyko12]

Ditto. Both x86 & x64 versions of vcredist 2008 & 2010 actually. I think either AGE's bitching about lack of eXtreme Graphics Engine, or GB programmers coded AGE out of their asses. Thanx regardless.

AGE sucks @$$ ahah, altho I've no issues with missing DLL's but sometimes it likes to "lose" some of it functions, a missing button here and there. I've only used it to set the colors on the gpu aorus logo and forget about it

 

[YautjaLord]

I know right? As much as i hate issue, i still want to get this one-click OC mode (1674Mhz base/1822Mhz boost) out of my GTX 1070 G1. This thing is rev. 2.0 btw, comes with RGB Fusion stead of RGB Spectrum like it's rev. 1.0 "sibling". And it's still faster than 1070 Founders edition, and it's still overclockable, and fruits and vegetables...... Think i'm gonna try installing that eXtreme Graphics Engine after work.

 

[eidairaman1]

I would personally installed 2008 2010 and 2013 redistributables not that replaces any of them I will take the older ones and put them in alongside those two if necessary as long as it doesn't replace them LOL

Not only Gigabyte mobos are sensitive to ram. My Dominator couldn't run above 2666 on asrock mobo...

The only reason I had mentooned this is because I had 1 that was finnicky with ram, my brothers ASRock wasnt though.

 

[YautjaLord]

I would personally installed 2008 2010 and 2013 redistributables not that replaces any of them I will take the older ones and put them in alongside those two if necessary as long as it doesn't replace them LOL

Ditto again. 2008, 2010, 2013 & 2017, each both x86 & x64. You laugh @ this? Me even more, fact is all other GB apps (App Center, RGB Fusion, @bios, DAC-UP2) work without any issues. This thing? Coded out of the ass!

 

[GoldenX]

You are forgetting 2005, 2012 and 2015.

 

[YautjaLord]

DL'd MSI Afterburner yesterday, works like charm, plenty of skins, can adjust voltage with it, you name it - if AGE doesn't work like that after i'll sort this vcredist issue out, MSI Afterburner it is. For Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1!

P.S. 2 hours of Prime95 Blend and/or Small FFTs torture will suffice for stability test? Will run it tomorrow.

P.P.S. The one mfc120u.dll file that was missing was Extreme Graphics Engine, i actually need both Extreme Graphics Engine and Aorus Graphics Engine. Forget it, MSI Afterburner it is til i find something better.

 

[Johan45]

Ryzen has a weak spot with the memory so I set custom test in P95 Ver 29.3 with 13000MB of ram. Depends on the amount you're using I have 16 GB so I set it slightly above 75% coverage. After that runs for a while I set Unigine heaven on a loop tests your cooling and also the SOC portion of the CPU

 

[PHaS3]

I recently ditched Afterburner for straight up WattMan. Having a much better experience, though I haven't tried to push anything insane, core @ 1450, mem @ stock 2100 (8400)MHz.

Gave my Ryzen baby a clean today:

 

[theonek]

I recently ditched Afterburner for straight up WattMan. Having a much better experience, though I haven't tried to push anything insane, core @ 1450, mem @ stock 2100 (8400)MHz.

Gave my Ryzen baby a clean today:

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That Sapphire should mine!

 

[PHaS3]

My last PC died in what may or may not have been a mining related incident (although another appliance in the house died at the same time, so it may not have been). That kinda put me off

That said, I did try throw some ETH mining on it, but I didn't fiddle long past seeing that it was only doing ~15MHps while I had read that ~25 is the out the box standard for similar cards. Honestly, though, I am not that keen on it since the (mis)fortune that killed my last PC and gave me this Ryzen

On topic question for the Ryzen folk: Has your motherboard vendor released an AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS update for your board yet? MSI haven't yet...

 

[R-T-B]

My last PC died in what may or may not have been a mining related incident (although another appliance in the house died at the same time, so it may not have been). That kinda put me off

That said, I did try throw some ETH mining on it, but I didn't fiddle long past seeing that it was only doing ~15MHps while I had read that ~25 is the out the box standard for similar cards. Honestly, though, I am not that keen on it since the (mis)fortune that killed my last PC and gave me this Ryzen

On topic question for the Ryzen folk: Has your motherboard vendor released an AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS update for your board yet? MSI haven't yet...

The cardinal rule in crypto is to not invest anything you can't afford to lose... gaming hardware included. Smart choice.

 

[YautjaLord]

As promised, pics of any app, by this evening i'll fill this post with as much attachments for your viewing, these'll include Carmageddon: Max Damage & AvP game & D3D11 benchmark among the rest.

 

[_JP_]

On topic question for the Ryzen folk: Has your motherboard vendor released an AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS update for your board yet? MSI haven't yet...

I was wondering that too and checked last week...since we have the same board, I guess we'll have to wait
Last time I used my desktop was like, 3 months ago, are you using the most recent UEFI? v54 or v55? Is it stable/good?