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Cas as the first timing?

With the hci memtest detected error at 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3. I bumped up the timings to 6-6-6-16-4-55-7-4. As im running 6 programs of hci memtest each loading 1024mb to fill up the ram as in task manager it showing 7.2gb used out of 8gb. Just hoping this may fix my freezing issue. The temperature on the motherboard is hitting 38c at this moment.

[Update] So far seem to hold up well on hci memtest no errors popping up, cpu core temp is hovering around 39/41c at 1.240v, cpu ihs temp is around 34.5c to 36c, motherboard temp is steady on 38c. Just waiting for the hci memtest to finish and give the battlefield 3 a bash tomorrow afternoon to see how it perform. Hoping my pc wont do something funky on me :)
 
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Any update on the PCIx lane issue not sure if it was this thread or one of your other threads ( not fully awake yet need coffee)
 
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Ah that pcie issue i had before cleared up after i changed from mushkin rams to g-skills as i was getting driver crashing related to ram timing issue from the mushkin pc8500 996599 but there was another revision with the same timings but different batches
 
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If you keep getting crashes with 450MHz, try a bit higher VTT (FSB Termination). I'm guessing, so far you kept it at ~1,28V ?
Try 1,32V or 1,35V.
 
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The bios settings fsb is 444mhz with ram ratio 1:1 889mhz, timing 6-6-6-16-4-55-7-4, the other two sub timing are auto. Cpu vcore 1.25000 (1.240v fully loaded in os), cpu pll 1.60v (dmm tested fully loaded 1.69v, fsb term 1.30v (dmm test fully loaded 1.36v), dram 2.24v (dmm tested fully loaded channel a 2.20v, channel b 2.23v), northbridge 1.52v (dmm tested fully loaded 1.55v), southbridge 1.20v, pcie sata 1.60v. These are the settings im using at the moment. The dram static read control is auto, dram read training is auto, mem oc charger is auto, ai clock twister is auto and ai transaction booster is auto as it states 14. So yeah this is what stopping my ram from locking up and freezing the whole computer when playing a demanding game like battlefield 3
 

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The bios settings fsb is 444mhz with ram ratio 1:1 889mhz, timing 6-6-6-16-4-55-7-4, the other two sub timing are auto. Cpu vcore 1.25000 (1.240v fully loaded in os), cpu pll 1.60v (dmm tested fully loaded 1.69v, fsb term 1.30v (dmm test fully loaded 1.36v), dram 2.24v (dmm tested fully loaded channel a 2.20v, channel b 2.23v), northbridge 1.52v (dmm tested fully loaded 1.55v), southbridge 1.20v, pcie sata 1.60v. These are the settings im using at the moment. The dram static read control is auto, dram read training is auto, mem oc charger is auto, ai clock twister is auto and ai transaction booster is auto as it states 14. So yeah this is what stopping my ram from locking up and freezing the whole computer when playing a demanding game like battlefield 3

Cpu multiplier?
 
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Yea that sounds about right as you can see some voltages are overvolting and some undervolting as im trying to keep it under the safezone for the cpu, motherboard and ram. Dont want to degrade the cpu with way too much voltage like the other e5450 i had.
 
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I would try doing 1,3V on CPU Voltage... (safe zone is up to 1,45V*).
Do you have LLC enabled (Load Line Calibration) ?
Disable Mem oc charger.
Strap setting ?

*If cooling is good enough

PS. I'm 100% confident, that for 889mhz + timing 6-6-6-16, you can't possibly need more than 1,9-2,0V (regardless of DRAM quality).
How hot individual RAM sticks get while under stress test ?
Because I HIGHLY advise against using more than ~2,0V as DRAM Voltage if you have all 4 slots populated (unless you actively cool them, in which case you should be OK).
 
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The fsb strap is 333, acording to intel manual the vcore can go all the way to 1.35v and the fsb term can go all the way to 1.45v since i read most of the forums about the fsb term should be at 1.36v for some reason as my board overvolt the fsb term by 0.06 on the read point as the bios is set to 1.30v dmm read 1.36v fully loaded. As the reason for high voltage for dram as i am using 4 dimm fully populated any less than 2.20 it starts to get unstable during games with issues like appication error 1000 and crashing to desktop after 10 to 30 minutes
 
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So it's unstable even with 1,5V on NB...
If you really need 2,2V for that RAM to be stable on those ~880MHz and CL6, I would test it without CPU OC to see if it's stable on stock settings (from JEDEC profile - CPU-z "SPD" tab), using default voltage (ie. 1,8V).
 
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I have already tried on stock bios settings before everything on auto unstable from the start of playing battlefield 3. I will be testing it shortly with the settings i have. And i will report back how it get on with battlefied 3
 
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Nah it not working out as i thought. Im truely stomped. Got to figure out where to set the the cpu clock skew and the northbridge clock skew as when i set the cpu skew to delay 100ps and northbridge to delay 300ps before was able to play battlefield 3 for about 30 to 45 mins before crashing. If the cpu and northbridge skew set to auto it crashes alot quicker like 2 to 5 mins in battlefield 3 so i could be overlooking something that i missed. Already tried all sorts of ways with voltages and different settings. Gonna start fresh and work with the stock setting to get it stable then work my way up from there hopely i get somewhere
 

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Nah it not working out as i thought. Im truely stomped. Got to figure out where to set the the cpu clock skew and the northbridge clock skew as when i set the cpu skew to delay 100ps and northbridge to delay 300ps before was able to play battlefield 3 for about 30 to 45 mins before crashing. If the cpu and northbridge skew set to auto it crashes alot quicker like 2 to 5 mins in battlefield 3 so i could be overlooking something that i missed. Already tried all sorts of ways with voltages and different settings. Gonna start fresh and work with the stock setting to get it stable then work my way up from there hopely i get somewhere

Just remember as you up fsb it ups the ram clocks, higher ram clocks= looser timings, refer to ddr3 and ddr4 references, remember your ram may just not be able to handle it no matter what you do.
 
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Did abit of tweaking decided to disabled llc then set the vcore manually to 1.38175 as in windows os it idles at 1.336v then it will droop to 1.296v loaded in battlefield 3. The bios settings is changed cpu gtl 0/2 is 0.640, gtl 1/3 is 0.680, cpu pll set to 1.62v (dmm tested 1.70v loaded), fsb term set to 1.32v (dmm tested 1.39v loaded). Was able to play battlefield 3 well over an hour. As the g-skill ram is 1067mhz as im keeping it stock not overclocking at this moment. But sometime last year i did get to push the muchkin 4x 2gb 1066mhz to close to 1150mhz got great results but didnt get a chance to screenshot the before and after result. The cpu core temp seems to hang around 55/57c as intel e5450 spec stated 67c. Is that for the cpu package or core?
 

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Hey sorry didnt get a chance to upload a screen shot of hwinfo64. But did have a tinker with the bios for the timings it now 5-5-5-15-5-70-8-5 and the other subtimings i manually put 2 clicks up on all of them as auto tends to make the timings abit too tight along with the ai transaction booster to 12. I was able to play battlefield 3 well over 1 hour and 45 minutes. And will play more tomorrow to see how it hold up. Will post all the bios settings along with the screenshot of hwinfo64. Had to put in another modded xbox 360 fan with a resistor to slow down the rpm as it was noisy as i placed it on top of the of the noctua heatsink and the vrm heatsink to suck the hot air to the top case fan as it made the northbridge temperature drop from 39/41c to steady 33c along with the cpu temp from 53/56c to steady 45/47c. Will show you the picture of it sometime tomorrow
 
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Just doing an update on my custom pc so far it behaving like a good little boy getting all the sweeties. So yea i was right about my issue all along it was the timings been whacked out of place not hardware issue as well got a great bonus with the e5450 been a lower vid helping the temps. Been testing games every night between 1 to 2 hours getting 60 fps nearly steady with very little dips depend on games, the asus gtx 750 ti oc modified to fix the boost clock as it supposed to be 1150mhz at full load it clocked at 1215mhz @1.156v but stuttering and lagging all over the place as hwinfo64 states performance limit - max operating voltage. So what i did was dumped the gpu bios then used maxwell bios tweaker to bump up the tdp and pcie power from 38.5 to 65.5 watt to overcome the power limit then fixed invaild clocks in boost table and few clicks down to match the asus gtx 750 ti oc boost clock. I believe that factory overclock sometimes unstable at a low gpu voltage no wonder why many people rma graphic cards saying it faulty when it can be fixed by gpu bios tweak. So far my custom pc running like a champ :)
 

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Just doing an update on my custom pc so far it behaving like a good little boy getting all the sweeties. So yea i was right about my issue all along it was the timings been whacked out of place not hardware issue as well got a great bonus with the e5450 been a lower vid helping the temps. Been testing games every night between 1 to 2 hours getting 60 fps nearly steady with very little dips depend on games, the asus gtx 750 ti oc modified to fix the boost clock as it supposed to be 1150mhz at full load it clocked at 1215mhz @1.156v but stuttering and lagging all over the place as hwinfo64 states performance limit - max operating voltage. So what i did was dumped the gpu bios then used maxwell bios tweaker to bump up the tdp and pcie power from 38.5 to 65.5 watt to overcome the power limit then fixed invaild clocks in boost table and few clicks down to match the asus gtx 750 ti oc boost clock. I believe that factory overclock sometimes unstable at a low gpu voltage no wonder why many people rma graphic cards saying it faulty when it can be fixed by gpu bios tweak. So far my custom pc running like a champ :)

I knew it was your timing's all along dude
 
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Well yea had this asus p5q premium since 2013 or 2014 and all that time i kept telling myself jeez when is this motherboard gonna stop snagging and crashing that when i was learning about overclocking. It a well earned drink or two tomorrow. I will try and get pictures of the bios settings, the cooling set up as i did a few different revision as i am waiting on 10x 3 pin with the resistor in to control fan noises as some can be heard through the case like viberating when the bios dont control the fan.

Also with the other e5450 chip i have im thinking either put it in another pc or be real mean to it like overclock it to the point of killing it. If i remember correcty i did get it to post 4.5ghz for about 5 minute before bluescreening. God it the overclocking itch that need to be scratched badly lol :)
 
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Well yea had this asus p5q premium since 2013 or 2014 and all that time i kept telling myself jeez when is this motherboard gonna stop snagging and crashing that when i was learning about overclocking. It a well earned drink or two tomorrow. I will try and get pictures of the bios settings, the cooling set up as i did a few different revision as i am waiting on 10x 3 pin with the resistor in to control fan noises as some can be heard through the case like viberating when the bios dont control the fan.

Also with the other e5450 chip i have im thinking either put it in another pc or be real mean to it like overclock it to the point of killing it. If i remember correcty i did get it to post 4.5ghz for about 5 minute before bluescreening. God it the overclocking itch that need to be scratched badly lol :)

My board was perfect stock and ocd, docp for 2400 ran fine, i just pushed timings till it bsod/froze then backed off. I know it wont run cas 9 at 2400 though for a 16GB kit.
 
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As you mean push like looser or tighter for your ram timing then again i never worked on your motherboard with fx8350 clocking at 5ghz must be some heat off it? What i did was set the ram default timing in the for the 1st information in the bios then 2nd/3rd information some timing need to be upped by 2 clicks and some upped by 3 to 5 clicks. As how i see it the faster speed on ram needs more voltage along with looser timings as your pc spec stated 2133mhz i think like double of 1066mhz on my pc
 

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As you mean push like looser or tighter for your ram timing then again i never worked on your motherboard with fx8350 clocking at 5ghz must be some heat off it? What i did was set the ram default timing in the for the 1st information in the bios then 2nd/3rd information some timing need to be upped by 2 clicks and some upped by 3 to 5 clicks. As how i see it the faster speed on ram needs more voltage along with looser timings as your pc spec stated 2133mhz i think like double of 1066mhz on my pc

My Ram default speed is 2133 with certain timings. I wanted to see if it could run 2400, so I went to GSkill's page and found the Trident set with the tightest timings that they have as a reference. I went in and set the ram to 2400 with the same timings and voltage as the Tridents, it runs properly. Then what I did is that I started pushing the timings down tighter beyond the cas level to see what it would do and it worked out for me. FYI the tighter the timings the more likely you're going to have a bsod/ freeze where as looser the timings you will not. Core 2 overclocking and FX overclocking are somewhat the same, with core I it's different.

The reason my CPU runs at 5 gigahertz is because of chip lottery, I got a fairly decent chip, bear in mind though that there are a couple others here that run theirs a 5.2 gigahertz but I believe that's on water, mine is on air.

Just one thing if I started increasing the front side bus I would probably have to loosen the timings a little bit.
 
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