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Hi guys , so i've recently upgraded my RAM from 3Gb (2+1) to 4Gb (2x2) , but the problem is that the BIOS detects only 3Gb out of 4.
The manufacture says that my mobo's maximum supported amount of RAM is 4Gb.
So how can i fix this problem ???
 

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From Gigabyte

“* Due to standard PC architecture, a certain amount of memory is reserved for system usage and therefore the actual memory size is less than the stated amount.”
 
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From Gigabyte

“* Due to standard PC architecture, a certain amount of memory is reserved for system usage and therefore the actual memory size is less than the stated amount.”
I know , but why did they say that the maximum supported RAM is 4Gb , they was able the say it's 3 gb , btw what if i try to install 5Gb of RAM (4+1) i know it's kind of weird but 1Gb will be reserved and here i am using 4 Gb , Do u think it's gonna work ??
btw when i install 1 or 2 or 3 Gb of RAM the bios detects the full amount , the 1Gb gets reserved only when i install 4Gb. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
 

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I know , but why did they say that the maximum supported RAM is 4Gb , they was able the say it's 3 gb , btw what if i try to install 5Gb of RAM (4+1) i know it's kind of weird but 1Gb will be reserved and here i am using 4 Gb , Do u think it's gonna work ??
btw when i install 1 or 2 or 3 Gb of RAM the bios detects the full amount , the 1Gb gets reserved only when i install 4Gb. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
What’s the exact model of the RAM
 
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Isn't that a chipset limitation?
 
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I've heard that the integrated graphics is taking the 1GB .
Yes that normally is true but you have a dGPU so it should be disabled
 
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I know , but why did they say that the maximum supported RAM is 4Gb , they was able the say it's 3 gb , btw what if i try to install 5Gb of RAM (4+1) i know it's kind of weird but 1Gb will be reserved and here i am using 4 Gb , Do u think it's gonna work ??
btw when i install 1 or 2 or 3 Gb of RAM the bios detects the full amount , the 1Gb gets reserved only when i install 4Gb. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
According to your system specs, you're running 32-bit Windows. Its maximum memory address space is 4GB. Various system components use memory addresses in that space. Your video card's memory also has to fit in that space. Your system specs say that your video card has 2GB of memory. Obviously, all of it isn't being mapped, or you would only see 2GB of system memory. Read this for more details.

The solution to your problem is to install 64-bit Windows. After that, you will see close to 4GB of system memory.
 
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Yes that normally is true but you have a dGPU so it should be disabled
I know , i'm using a 750 ti and i haven't used the integrated graphics even for one time , and i can't disable it from the bios.
 
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I've heard that the integrated graphics is taking the 1GB .
No, that Intel IGP can only take 8/32MB, the rest comes from the driver in Windows, not in bios.
I think the 965 chipset can't use the full 4GB due to a hardware limitation.

Here it is:
https://communities.intel.com/thread/7604

The Mobile Intel 945GM/GME/PM and Intel 945GT Express Chipsets are capable of supporting up to 4 GB of physical memory. With that said you can upgrade your laptop to 4 GB of physical memory, yes, but it's not completely true.

See there are three system address ranges.
1- From 0 to 1 MB for legacy address range
2- 1 MB to TOLUD for GGC (Graphics stolen memory) and independently programmable non-overlapping windows
3- From TOLUD to the top of physical memory that is permitted to be accessible by the (G)MCH

The (G)MCH provides a maximum DRAM address decode space of 4 GB. The (G)MCH does not remap APIC or PCI Express memory space. This means that as the amount of
physical memory populated in the system reaches 4 GB, there will be physical memory that exists yet is non-addressable and therefore unusable by the system.

So your dedicated video card steals some RAM thanks to bad hardware design from the chipset's part.
 
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According to your system specs, you're running 32-bit Windows. Its maximum memory address space is 4GB. Various system components use memory addresses in that space. Your video card's memory also has to fit in that space. Your system specs say that your video card has 2GB of memory. Obviously, all of it isn't being mapped, or you would only see 2GB of system memory. Read this for more details.

The solution to your problem is to install 64-bit Windows. After that, you will see close to 4GB of system memory.
I was using a 1Gb GPU before and i remember that i had the same problem , add to that that there's no relationship between the windows and the BIOS i mean when the BIOS detects the full amount of RAM i will upgrade to a 64bit OS.

No, that Intel IGP can only take 8/32MB, the rest comes from the driver in Windows, not in bios.
I think the 965 chipset can't use the full 4GB due to a hardware limitation.

Here it is:
https://communities.intel.com/thread/7604



So your dedicated video card steals some RAM thanks to bad hardware design from the chipset's part.
So do you think there is no hope ????:cry::cry::cry: but hey , why when i install 3GB or less the GPU doesn't steal from the RAM??
 
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I was using a 1Gb GPU before and i remember that i had the same problem , add to that that there's no relationship between the windows and the BIOS i mean when the BIOS detects the full amount of RAM i will upgrade to a 64bit OS.
Sorry, I missed the BIOS reference.

Speaking of BIOS, what version are you using?
 

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I was using a 1Gb GPU before and i remember that i had the same problem , add to that that there's no relationship between the windows and the BIOS i mean when the BIOS detects the full amount of RAM i will upgrade to a 64bit OS.


So do you think there is no hope ????:cry::cry::cry: but hey , why when i install 3GB or less the GPU doesn't steal from the RAM??
Basically what ever one is saying is that the chipset is hardware limited to only 3GB of assemble RAM that’s when increasing to 4GB yielded no results vs the 3GB you used before.

Even Gigiabyte themselves stated that RAM would be limited

Installing a 64 bit OS like windows 10 x64 will most likely solve your problem. This is the first step you need to take.
But he stated it was in the BIOs not the OS. Windows would have no effect on the BIOs
 
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I have never been happy with my 945GC mobo , i just had to buy it like a dumb because i didn't find a G41 or G43 chipset mobos in the local dealers , and i didn't have the ability to buy online. :cry::cry:
The most thing i hate about it that it doesn't support quad core CPUs.:shadedshu::shadedshu::shadedshu:

Sorry, I missed the BIOS reference.

Speaking of BIOS, what version are you using?
The latest update available , F6d.
 
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So do you think there is no hope ????:cry::cry::cry: but hey , why when i install 3GB or less the GPU doesn't steal from the RAM??
Because the chipset can see a max of 4GB, not counting what the GPU takes, so you don't have that problem with 3GB or less.
Is it such a problem?
 

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I have never been happy with my 945GC mobo , i just had to buy it like a dumb because i didn't find a G41 or G43 chipset mobos in the local dealers , and i didn't have the ability to buy online. :cry::cry:
The most thing i hate about it that it doesn't support quad core CPUs.:shadedshu::shadedshu::shadedshu:


The latest update available , F6d.
Not true

If you look up the board Gigabyte does list support for Core 2 Quads upto the 9xxx Series with the lastest BIOs
 
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How many times.... VRAM on GPU doesn't steal anything.
It should be common knowledge that PCI-e cards need 256MB of RAM per GPU.
Example of negative 4GB of RAM according to (Usable RAM = RAM - VRAM) :

^Usable RAM in this case was 3GB.
You can't have more than 3GB of RAM usable, because chipset itself can't adress more than 3GB of RAM. It doesn't matter what OS you install - result will be always the same (3GB usable, 1GB reserved).

Don't bother to install Quad Cores on this board.
Buy anything on P965/P35/P45. Unless you absolutly must have a mATX (and ATX cases aren't available), in that case buy new platform.
 
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Not true

If you look up the board Gigabyte does list support for Core 2 Quads upto the 9xxx Series with the lastest BIOs

Just don't be an idiot like me when i bought a Q6700 Core 2 Quad , wich turned out that it's not supported by my motherboard , all what i did before buying it is :
1- check cpu support list for my mobo
2- oh the Q6700 is included in the list
3- buy one , recevied it after 15 days
4- installed it in my PC , hit the power button bios boots for 5 seconds and the PC crashed
5- check cpu support list again , ohh since bios version says N/A
6- WTF does N/A mean
7- Turned out that it was mentioned in Red at the CPU support list that N/A=NOT SUPPORTED
8- for sale : Intel core 2 quad Q6700 2.6GHz.
 
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Not true

If you look up the board Gigabyte does list support for Core 2 Quads upto the 9xxx Series with the lastest BIOs

Please supply the URL where you found this information. On Gigabyte's global website, the CPU Support list for the GA-945GCM-S2C says that no Core 2 Quad CPUs are supported.
 
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VRAM doesn't steal anything. It should be common knowledge that PCI-e cards need 256MB of RAM per GPU.
You can't have more than 3GB of RAM usable, because chipset itself can't adress more than 3GB,
It doesn't matter what OS you install - result will be the same (3GB usable, 1GB reserved).
Don't bother to install Quad Cores on this board.
Buy anything on P965/P35/P45. Unless you absolutly must have a mATX (and ATX cases aren't available), in that case buy new platform.
Dude i did this mistake before , by installing a Q6700 in my mobo. check my last reply for Durvelle.

Please supply the URL where you found this information. On Gigabyte's global website, the CPU Support list for the GA-945GCM-S2C says that no Core 2 Quad CPUs are supported.
Yes it's correct there is no C2D supported , but u said in the beginning that "the board Gigabyte does list support for Core 2 Quads upto the 9xxx Series with the lastest BIOs".
 

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The best possible fix would be selling the whole PC, unless you need a backup PC or just want to have a retro system. You'll loose a lot of nerves trying to improve this system, while the actual performance boost will be nowhere near the expectations.

Although E7600, which is equivalent to T9900, can perform ordinary tasks like web browsing, MS office and light gaming without too many issues, 4GB RAM today just isn't adequate.
 
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The best possible fix would be selling the whole PC, unless you need a backup PC or just want to have a retro system. You'll loose a lot of nerves trying to improve this system, while the actual performance boost will be nowhere near the expectations.

Although E7600, which is equivalent to T9900, can perform ordinary tasks like web browsing, MS office and light gaming without too many issues, 4GB RAM today just isn't adequate.
I know that i should upgrade the whole platform but i don't have the money , the only thing that makes me satisfied with this pc (for now of course) that it's running awesome games it shouldn't run , for example need for speed most wanted and the run both recommended requirements are 4gb of ram and an intel core 2 quad , while i'm running them at highest settings with 55-60 fps , same thing for COD MW series , PES 17.

The best possible fix would be selling the whole PC, unless you need a backup PC or just want to have a retro system. You'll loose a lot of nerves trying to improve this system, while the actual performance boost will be nowhere near the expectations.

Although E7600, which is equivalent to T9900, can perform ordinary tasks like web browsing, MS office and light gaming without too many issues, 4GB RAM today just isn't adequate.
I know that i should upgrade the whole platform but i don't have the money , the only thing that makes me satisfied with this pc (for now of course) that it's running awesome games it shouldn't run , for example need for speed most wanted and the run both recommended requirements are 4gb of ram and an intel core 2 quad , while i'm running them at highest settings with 55-60 fps , same thing for COD MW series , PES 17.
How many times.... VRAM on GPU doesn't steal anything.
It should be common knowledge that PCI-e cards need 256MB of RAM per GPU.
Example of negative 4GB of RAM according to Usable RAM = RAM - VRAM :

^Usable RAM in this case was 3GB.
You can't have more than 3GB of RAM usable, because chipset itself can't adress more than 3GB of RAM. It doesn't matter what OS you install - result will be always the same (3GB usable, 1GB reserved).

Don't bother to install Quad Cores on this board.
Buy anything on P965/P35/P45. Unless you absolutly must have a mATX (and ATX cases aren't available), in that case buy new platform.[/QUOTE17.
Thanks bro , btw i appreciate that you gave me the courage to buy the 750 TI , because as you remember i was afraid of compatibility issue , but here it is running perfectly .
 

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I know , but why did they say that the maximum supported RAM is 4Gb , they was able the say it's 3 gb , btw what if i try to install 5Gb of RAM (4+1) i know it's kind of weird but 1Gb will be reserved and here i am using 4 Gb , Do u think it's gonna work ??
btw when i install 1 or 2 or 3 Gb of RAM the bios detects the full amount , the 1Gb gets reserved only when i install 4Gb. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
4GB RAM is actually supported. Some of that however is allocated to the peripherals you have installed. The manufacturer can't predict what peripherals each user will have installed, so there's no way for them to tell how much of those 4GB RAM will be available to the OS.
When you have less RAM installed, you don't have a missing GB because peripherals are being allocated virtual memory addresses. The maximum amount of RAM a 32bit system can address is 4GB - so it still allocates peripherals into the 3-4GB space, but since there's no RAM there, you don't see it. When you install 4GB RAM, the system can't allocate space for peripherals into the 4-5GB range, so it eats into your system RAM instead. It sucks, I know.

Smartphones have a rather similar problem, too: the total storage capacity is advertised, but several GB of that are taken by the OS and preinstalled apps and never accessible for other purposes.
 
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