• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA Confirms Issues Cropping Up With Turing-based Cards, "It's Not a Broad Issue"

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast
Supporter
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Messages
13,909 (2.42/day)
Location
Louisiana -Laissez les bons temps rouler!
System Name Bayou Phantom
Processor Core i7-8700k 4.4Ghz @ 1.18v
Motherboard ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
Cooling All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax T40F Black CPU cooler
Memory 2x 16GB Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Xc
Storage 1x 500 MX500 SSD; 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 4TB WD Black; 1x400GB VelRptr; 1x 4TB WD Blue storage (eSATA)
Display(s) HP 27q 27" IPS @ 2560 x 1440
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Black w/Titanium front -windowed
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!)
Keyboard Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)
I just didnt like your comment "Don’t minimize it just because you are blinded by brand loyalty." you think you know but you don't..
-shrugs- OK, disagree and don’t like it, but no reason to explode on a hair trigger like you did.
 
Low quality post by Salty_sandwich
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
220 (0.11/day)
System Name SALTY
Processor A10-5800K
Motherboard A75
Cooling Air
Memory 10Gig DDR133
Video Card(s) HD 7660D
Storage HDD
Display(s) 4k HDR TV
Power Supply 320 Watt
RTX release was a joke from day one. Wait till 3Q 2019 and you will get RTX on 7 nm dies for decent prices as response to AMD 7 nm Vega mid range launch. Mark my words, you will be able to get NVidia's RTX 2070 7nm equivalent for 400 $ and AMDs 7nm "Vega 64" for 350 $. RTX 2080 performance cards probably for 500 $ but 2080TI will stay expensive as AMD will not have high end answer till 2020 if at all. Now is the worse time to buy GPU (ok cryptocraze was even worse). It's NVidia's consumer milking season till AMD comes out with 7nm gaming GPUs. If AMD can't deliver GTX 2070 performance for 350 $, Nvidia's higher end milking season will continue throughout 2019.

But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?

more beer Vicor ....

Someone start a Poll ffs LETS DO THIS ..... lol sorry cant help meself at this point ....
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 10, 2018
Messages
943 (0.47/day)
Let's be brutally honest. Nvidia for all their dominance is out of touch with their consumer base. Gtx 1070 memory issues was a big problem but their response to that is even more of a fiasco.fast forward couple months the game branding issue to suppliers which in my opinion was their worst act. And again their excuse for that was even worse. Basically branding their consumers idiots who can not read or understand. Now this. A pretty much rushed gpu that is not ready and well they had 2 years to be prepared for it whilst charging 50% more. Now I play very few games and the ones I play, nvdia have at least 20% advantage to AMD equivalent and in a world where I have to squeeze every little juice to play at 144mhz it is very important. But not this time for me. I probably will suffer some fps but I will go for AMD this time.principles define what you are.
 
Joined
Feb 12, 2015
Messages
1,104 (0.33/day)
Here's the actual thing:
people buy a box with a product in it. The box says it has specs so-and-so. The product in the box did not meet those specifications. When the product is pushed to a supported configuration called SLI, performance becomes inconsistent. Fast forward to 2018: most games require over 4GB for decent IQ settings and the 970's core can easily push that, but VRAM is now holding it back. Ever since its release, the 970 has fallen down the performance charts more rapidly than other 4GB cards. Its small, but the trend is there and you could already see single digit performance losses beyond what you'd expect shortly after it launched. When we get 2% from drivers we all download them, but when we lose 3-4% because of being misled, we don't care?? Rather odd IMO.

"The card did have 4GB on it". Do you say the same when they market a GDDR5 card and you find DDR3 on it? Because essentially, the effect of the way the die was cut, meant that one memory chip had access to bandwidth that was about as slow as system RAM. These memory setups are not new to Nvidia. They've done it with Fermi, they've done it with Kepler. But never was it such a crappy job as this one, for example, the GTX 660 had 128-bit width for 1.5GB of its memory and a 64-bit width for the remaining 0.5GB. Sound familiar? Put those in SLI and you have a stutterfest even when you underclock the core.

It was long overdue they took the fall for this. The fact you didn't see the problem doesn't mean its not there. And lo and behold: Pascal has nice, evenly cut up GPUs that handle memory b/w in a different way. But we still get 1060's with, now, over five different VRAM setups...

Regardless, my mentioning of it was a reference to how trustworthy these Nvidia statements are and how the real world works just a tad different from that.

That's what I keep saying. According to some Nvidiots it would be ok if the 2080 Ti had an extra 16-bit bus reading 9GB of DDR2, and advertised "20GB of graphics memory!"
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
127 (0.06/day)
But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?

Not a lot of RTX 2080 TI were produced/sold (even NVidia's support centers admit that ) and having such high numbers of complaints is not marginal. Even Forbes writes about it. NVidia's main target for 2018/1H2019 is to sell all remaining Pascal cards that's why we saw such a shitty pricing on RTX cards. They want Pascal to remain attractive purchase until they sell them all. Then we'll get real RTX cards on 7 nm dies.
 
Low quality post by Salty_sandwich
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
220 (0.11/day)
System Name SALTY
Processor A10-5800K
Motherboard A75
Cooling Air
Memory 10Gig DDR133
Video Card(s) HD 7660D
Storage HDD
Display(s) 4k HDR TV
Power Supply 320 Watt
Not a lot of RTX 2080 TI were produced/sold (even NVidia's support centers admit that ) and having such high numbers of complaints is not marginal. NVidia's main target for 2018/1H2019 is to sell all remaining Pascal cards that's why we saw such a shitty pricing on RTX cards. They want Pascal to remain attractive purchase until they sell them all. Then we'll get real RTX cards on 7 nm dies.

OnLY oNe WaY To SOrt tHIs IsUue ouT OnCe AnD For AlL

I Call For A Massive POLL!

hang on just wait a min ... let me get me guitar first ... oddly for some unknown reason to me i play a wicked spaghetti western

 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 5, 2004
Messages
1,956 (0.27/day)
Location
The Kingdom of Norway
Processor Ryzen 5900X
Motherboard Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX 1.1
Cooling Noctua NB-U12A
Memory 2x 32GB Fury DDR4 3200mhz
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 5700 XT Red Dragon
Storage Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCIe 4.0
Display(s) 2x Dell U2412M
Case Phanteks P400A
Audio Device(s) Hifimediy Sabre 9018 USB DAC
Power Supply Corsair AX850 (from 2012)
Software Windows 10?
"not a broad issue" cue the air quotes, there is nothing wrong, history tells us, nothing wrong move along during that tiny little laptop recall issue in the past
 
D

Deleted member 177333

Guest
lol...so not only are they insanely overpriced; they are also unreliable. Awesome. No wonder NVidia's stock has been dropping quite a bit for the last 30 days. Hope it keeps dropping. And Turing can rot on the shelf at their price points.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
127 (0.06/day)
lol...so not only are they insanely overpriced; they are also unreliable. Awesome. No wonder NVidia's stock has been dropping quite a bit for the last 30 days. Hope it keeps dropping. And Turing can rot on the shelf at their price points.

That was NVidia's intend in the first place. Buy 2 yo high profit margin Pascal (we have plenty left cause of mining craze miscalculation) as Turing is buggy and overpriced. Mission accomplished.
 
Low quality post by Salty_sandwich
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
296 (0.06/day)
System Name Gaming PC/ EDU PC/ HFS PC
Processor Intel i9-9900KF/ Dual Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard Asrock Z390 Taichi Ultimate/ Dual Asrock X370 Proffesional Gaming
Cooling Noctua NH-C14S/ Arctic Xtreme Freezer/ Ryzen Wraith Prysm RGB
Memory 64GB Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200/ 32GB Corsair Dominator 3000/ 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra / MSI RTX 2080Ti Ventus / EVGA GTX 1060 SC Gaming
Storage Dual 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 6Tb 860 EVO/ 960 EVO 500GB + 18Tb R0/ 840EVO 250Gb + 16Tb R0
Display(s) Samsung 32" U32R590 Curved 3480x2160 / Samsung 32" LC32H711 Curved 2560x1440 Freesync
Case Cooler Master Stacker 830 NV Edition/ Dual Cooler Master 690 Advance II
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 SBX/ Creative X-Fi Titanium Pci-E/ On-board Realtek
Power Supply Triple Corsair Platinum HX850i
Mouse Logitech G7 WL / Logitech G903 Lightspeed / MS BT 8000
Keyboard Dual Logitech G19s
Software Win10 Pro
and congrats to all winners! better stay with a slightly old but working tech despite the new defective one....
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
127 (0.06/day)
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
19,366 (3.71/day)
Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Low quality post by unikin
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (3.03/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?

more beer Vicor ....

Someone start a Poll ffs LETS DO THIS ..... lol sorry cant help meself at this point ....
you're embarassing yourself.
and there are people reporting dead gpus and getting a faulty one as replacement,as well as those who had a broken gpu and recieved money return instead of a replacement.
 
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
220 (0.11/day)
System Name SALTY
Processor A10-5800K
Motherboard A75
Cooling Air
Memory 10Gig DDR133
Video Card(s) HD 7660D
Storage HDD
Display(s) 4k HDR TV
Power Supply 320 Watt
SAdly,
Or how quickly it gets deleted as a low quality post?????

I like to have fun on forums (well, here, it easy to fire up this crowd of 'enthusiasts', LOL), but I think it has gone too far with that thread and poll.

It's nothing short of genius and a fun factual way of resolving fact from fiction

so far the poll suggests 100% LOL ..... you cant argue with the numbers

make of it what you will

at least i admit from start i voted ...

make your voice heard BY voting :)
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
20,906 (5.97/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V
Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370
Cooling beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Fractal Design Define R5
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse XTRFY M42
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W10 x64
It's nothing short of genius and a fun factual way of resolving fact from fiction

so far the poll suggests 100% LOL ..... you cant argue with the numbers

make of it what you will

at least i admit from start i voted ...

make your voice heard BY voting :)

Welcome to my ignore list. Its official, your content is of zero value and all you can do is troll about.

Enjoy that beer
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
127 (0.06/day)
Hardware Unboxed just reported that one of their RTX 2080 TI just died. This is not normal deficiency rate, given that only few thousand RTX 2080 TI has been sold by now:

NVidia will of course deny everything. That's what their corp PR department is for. Never admit a problem until proven wrong and even then minimize it's importance. That's how corporations play the game, Nvidia is no different. Their responsability lies with shareholders not consumers.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
19,366 (3.71/day)
Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
JFC, how many times is this vid going to make its way on to this site? 2x in the other thread, now at least once here.......

Oye....
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
6,743 (1.67/day)
Let's be brutally honest. Nvidia for all their dominance is out of touch with their consumer base. Gtx 1070 memory issues was a big problem but their response to that is even more of a fiasco.fast forward couple months the game branding issue to suppliers which in my opinion was their worst act. And again their excuse for that was even worse. Basically branding their consumers idiots who can not read or understand. Now this. A pretty much rushed gpu that is not ready and well they had 2 years to be prepared for it whilst charging 50% more. Now I play very few games and the ones I play, nvdia have at least 20% advantage to AMD equivalent and in a world where I have to squeeze every little juice to play at 144mhz it is very important. But not this time for me. I probably will suffer some fps but I will go for AMD this time.principles define what you are.
Hmm let's be honest Nvidia is doing this only because their loyal customers are willing to shell out extra $ for that last drop of performance.
If more consumers reject this price base RTX would've been DoA, same as Intel's top end or everything Apple.
 
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Messages
828 (0.19/day)
Location
NL
System Name SIGSEGV
Processor INTEL i7-7700K | AMD Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard QUANTA | ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
Cooling Air cooling 4 heatpipes | Corsair H115i | Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC Fan 3000RPM
Memory Micron 16 Gb DDR4 2400 | GSkill Ripjaws 32Gb DDR4 3200 3400(OC) 14-14-14-34 @1.38v
Video Card(s) Nvidia 1060 6GB | Gigabyte 1080Ti Aorus
Storage 1TB 7200/256 SSD PCIE | ~ TB | 970 Evo
Display(s) 15,5" / 27"
Case Black & Grey | Phanteks P400S
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Li Battery | Seasonic Focus Gold 750W
Mouse g402
Keyboard Leopold|Ducky
Software LinuxMint KDE |UBUNTU | Windows 10 PRO
Benchmark Scores i dont care about scores
haha, nvidia. dont have anything to say about this company.
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
19,366 (3.71/day)
Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
These Fermi 2.0 space heaters are clocked at much higher frequencies to justify the reason to upgrade from Pascal.
1. It's a 265W card vs 250W (Turing FE vs Fermi Reference, 250/250 ref to ref).
2. 1080Ti boost clock is 1582 MHz vs 2080 Ti is 1635 (or 1545 MHz for reference 2080 Ti - even LOWER!!!)
3. 1080Ti to 2080Ti = 25% more performance overall (give or take) with clocks that are ~3.3% higher.....

Good call...:wtf:
 
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
511 (0.09/day)
Location
DK
System Name Main setup
Processor i9 12900K
Motherboard Gigabyte z690 Gaming X
Cooling Water
Memory Kingston 32GB 5200@cl30
Video Card(s) Asus Tuf RTS 4090
Storage Adata SX8200 PRO 1 adn 2 TB, Samsung 960EVO, Crucial MX300 750GB Limited edition
Display(s) HP "cheapass" 34" 3440x1440
Case CM H500P Mesh
Audio Device(s) Logitech G933
Power Supply Corsair RX850i
Mouse G502
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro
Software W11
-shrugs- OK, disagree and don’t like it, but no reason to explode on a hair trigger like you did.

No you are totally right, I am much more intelligent than that :D , just tiered of every time you give a technical explanation on an issue regardless of company, somebody always plays the "fanboy" card... Get a new deck of card ffs.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
127 (0.06/day)
1. It's a 265W card vs 250W (Turing FE vs Fermi Reference, 250/250 ref to ref).
2. 1080Ti boost clock is 1582 MHz vs 2080 Ti is 1635 (or 1545 MHz for reference 2080 Ti - even LOWER!!!)
3. 1080Ti to 2080Ti = 25% more performance overall (give or take) with clocks that are ~3.3% higher.....

Good call...:wtf:

4. 3584 vs 4352 cuda cores = 18 % more cuda cores and higher clock frequency for 25% more performance boost.

Not an impressive achievement in my eyes. Especially when considering the price.
 
Top