Trump signs new bill that funds 1.2 billion to quantum computing research

[Space Lynx]

https://www.geekwire.com/2018/trump-signs-legislation-back-quantum-computing-research-1-2-billion/

@jboydgolfer

thought you might enjoy that, I only wish they showed how the money was distributed, like what/who/which/when/where

 

[eidairaman1]

Progress, be at fore front of it too.

Maybe AMD will be at the Helm at some point

 

[Space Lynx]

Progress, be at fore front of it too.

Maybe AMD will be at the Helm at some point

I am very optimistic of AMD's future, especially since Nvidia and Intel keep making huge mistakes here lately. 7nm AMD cpu and cpu in summer 2019/winter 2019... really hoping a $700 vega 2 can go toe to toe with a 2080 ti. i mean quite frankly, none of know what 7nm vega 2 will be capable of, i think its going to surprise a lot of people honestly. but i could be wrong

 

[eidairaman1]

I am very optimistic of AMD's future, especially since Nvidia and Intel keep making huge mistakes here lately. 7nm AMD cpu and cpu in summer 2019/winter 2019... really hoping a $700 vega 2 can go toe to toe with a 2080 ti. i mean quite frankly, none of know what 7nm vega 2 will be capable of, i think its going to surprise a lot of people honestly. but i could be wrong

Im looking to navi+

 

[FordGT90Concept]

thought you might enjoy that, I only wish they showed how the money was distributed, like what/who/which/when/where

Too soon. The law basically just instructs the President, NIST, NSF, and DOE to start the initiative.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6227

NSF is the only one dispersing grants out of that $1.2 billion.


I think the main reason why this law exists is to try to get more quantum computers in the market. I think D-Wave is still the only commercial manufacturer of them. IBM and Intel have dabbled but they don't have a commercial product yet.

 

[Space Lynx]

Too soon. The law basically just instructs the President, NIST, NSF, and DOE to start the initiative.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6227

NSF is the only one dispersing grants out of that $1.2 billion.


I think the main reason why this law exists is to try to get more quantum computers in the market. I think D-Wave is still the only commercial manufacturer of them. IBM and Intel have dabbled but they don't have a commercial product yet.

it seems to me the free markets are doing just fine with quantum investment, Jeff Bezos invested heavily in D-Wave for example, and Microsoft already released free coding courses for quantum - i think i read that somewhere anyway.

this is one area government is wasting tax payer money again imo, that 1.2 billion would have been better off spent on cybersecurity - all 1.2 billion distributed to 10th to 12th grade schools who produce x amount of students who become accepted at a state university who major in cybersecurity or related fields. - that would motivate x amount of schools to encourage x amount of kids to become more interested in x major.

i dunno seems more important, and the free markets don't seem to be doing a good job of it, even though those jobs pay well, just not enough students

 

[FordGT90Concept]

A market of one is a monopoly.

 

[AsRock]

I am very optimistic of AMD's future, especially since Nvidia and Intel keep making huge mistakes here lately. 7nm AMD cpu and cpu in summer 2019/winter 2019... really hoping a $700 vega 2 can go toe to toe with a 2080 ti. i mean quite frankly, none of know what 7nm vega 2 will be capable of, i think its going to surprise a lot of people honestly. but i could be wrong

I think they are all might be in a spot of bother soon, even more so is Qualcomm step up their game,

 

[remixedcat]

Yup seen this on another site and I specially can't wait for quantum networking!

 

[jboydgolfer]

yeah, im excited to (hopefully) see this come to fruition in a beneficial way. hopefully no criminals (DNC) try to hinder progress . quantum computing is SO exciting, the possibilities of such a Endeavor , as well as spin off technological advances is enough to leave me in a state of nerd Tumescence. Its a Super staggering task ,regardless of how much money gets thrown at it ,it's no small feat. Just wrapping my head around it is like wrapping your head around Schrodinger's cat

 

[Vayra86]

it seems to me the free markets are doing just fine with quantum investment, Jeff Bezos invested heavily in D-Wave for example, and Microsoft already released free coding courses for quantum - i think i read that somewhere anyway.

this is one area government is wasting tax payer money again imo, that 1.2 billion would have been better off spent on cybersecurity - all 1.2 billion distributed to 10th to 12th grade schools who produce x amount of students who become accepted at a state university who major in cybersecurity or related fields. - that would motivate x amount of schools to encourage x amount of kids to become more interested in x major.

i dunno seems more important, and the free markets don't seem to be doing a good job of it, even though those jobs pay well, just not enough students

Investing in quantum computing is (also) a long term investment in cyber security. If 'the enemy' gets there first, no amount of bits key will protect your assets.

That said, Trump is late to the party here...

 

[silentbogo]

thought you might enjoy that, I only wish they showed how the money was distributed, like what/who/which/when/where

$1.2B over the course of 5 years, which means it's not gonna be "distributed" right away and it might not even be enough. Most likely it's gonna be like Obama's green energy fund, but 100 times smaller and more selective. Just enough to throw an occasional bone at Quantum Computing startups.
It's still a good thing, but not the thing that puts you on a "forefront".

 

[FordGT90Concept]

DARPA isn't involved (likely have their own programs that are confidential). This is the public side of government sponsored quantum computing projects. Wouldn't be surprised if the NSA already has at least one D-Wave system. We know NASA has one that is jointly owned/operated with Google. NASA, NSA, DARPA, NSF, NIST, etc. want more quantum computing options.

 

[eidairaman1]

Investing in quantum computing is (also) a long term investment in cyber security. If 'the enemy' gets there first, no amount of bits key will protect your assets.

That said, Trump is late to the party here...

Better than never

 

[Space Lynx]

Investing in quantum computing is (also) a long term investment in cyber security. If 'the enemy' gets there first, no amount of bits key will protect your assets.

That said, Trump is late to the party here...

I'm pretty sure are most secret assets have no access to online anything LAN or WAN. Nuclear stuff still use floppy discs lasts I heard (i am sure this goes without question for top secret projects as well)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-disks/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.38bcb070263c

 

[Vayra86]

I'm pretty sure are most secret assets have no access to online anything LAN or WAN. Nuclear stuff still use floppy discs lasts I heard (i am sure this goes without question for top secret projects as well)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-disks/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.38bcb070263c

Sure, but to jump from security to nukes is a bit much What about finances, private/personal/medical data, etc. Lots of those must be connected to even work. That is exactly the commercial / civilian space this funding is going to.

 

[Readlight]

Whit high inflation, debt, printed money.

 

[eidairaman1]

Whit high inflation, debt, printed money.

Stop assuming and verify.

 

[Divide Overflow]

Investing in quantum computing is (also) a long term investment in cyber security. If 'the enemy' gets there first, no amount of bits key will protect your assets.

That said, Trump is late to the party here...

The security agencies will have access to equipment like this, completely undisclosed to the public.
And Trump can only sign bills as quickly as Congress sends them to him.

 

[Norton]

This is a Science and Technology thread not a Lounge thread, please post accordingly

 

[qubit]

The inexorable rise of the qubit continues! Sorry.

I can't wait for the day that the technology is perfected and quantum computers become mainstream. We'll then see some incredible applications that no one previously thought of - and likely games with real, intelligent AI - and alas also some awful uses for oppression, too.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I don't know that will ever happen. Everything attempting to reach quantum computing thus far has required what basically amounts to a 25 kWh freezer. It's like 1970s computers all over again.

 

[eidairaman1]

I don't know that will ever happen. Everything attempting to reach quantum computing thus far has required what basically amounts to a 25 kWh freezer. It's like 1970s computers all over again.

1950s-60s

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Before my time.

 

[Prima.Vera]

I don't know that will ever happen. Everything attempting to reach quantum computing thus far has required what basically amounts to a 25 kWh freezer. It's like 1970s computers all over again.

Liquid N2 or H2 ??
Naturally this type of cooling requires huge and expensive machines.