Steam Fanatics Review-bomb "Metro Exodus" on Metacritic

[Shambles1980]

you cant see the similarity of paying some one money for removing stuff from other stores.
I use it as an example as i thought it may make you think for a second and find some empathy for what the people who have the grievances feel.

its quite unbelievable how some people simply cannot empathize with others because the issue does not affect them. theres probably a word for people who cannot empathize with others. perhaps you should check what it is.

 

[moproblems99]

you cant see the similarity of paying some one money for removing stuff from other stores.
I use it as an example as i thought it may make you think for a second and find some empathy for what the people who have the grievances feel.

its quite unbelievable how some people simply cannot empathize with others because the issue does not affect them. theres probably a word for people who cannot empathize with others. perhaps you should check what it is.

What is the issue? Can you not obtain it?

 

[Shambles1980]

Explained it like 5 times now, either you chose to pretend that i didnt. you dont want to admit the issue exists, or you dont care to change your stance.
so pointless to carry on the debate with you.
I have no interest in buying the game "never did". But the stunt epic pulled made it so i wont buy any games from their store now. I know you cannot comprehend why, But there is no way possible to explain it to you. its simply beyond your emotional acuity, (empathetic)

 

[64K]

We don't even know if Epic will maintain their store and improve it. They don't even have a search bar. You have to scroll down to find games. It's not a big deal right now because they don't have many games but as more and more games get added it could get tiresome when I'm looking for a particular game. A search bar is just something basic for any game site to have imo.

 

[moproblems99]

Explained it like 5 times now, either you chose to pretend that i didnt. you dont want to admit the issue exists, or you dont care to change your stance.
so pointless to carry on the debate with you.
I have no interest in buying the game "never did". But the stunt epic pulled made it so i wont buy any games from their store now. I know you cannot comprehend why, But there is no way possible to explain it to you. its simply beyond your emotional acuity, (empathetic)

There is no issue. You have a preference or conviction that you will not buy anything other than something from Steam. Sorry, but that is not an 'issue'. If you couldn't buy the game for some reason I would support you and empathize with you. But your personal preferences do not equal issues.

 

[Shambles1980]

see
Again you chose to ignore what i said lol.

i said Multiple times now the issue is:

EPIC PAID TO PULL THE GAME FROM ALL STORES

there cannot say it clearer than that.
Undoubtedly you will some how read that differently but whatever.

Sure in the past i would have used steam any way. but if epic had offered me a reason for me to swap i would have, but after this stunt no i wont be using epic.

 

[moproblems99]

Stuff....

Why thank you, have a Merry Christmas yourself!

 

[kid41212003]

Childish move by Steam users. Review bombing only hurts the platform's creditability.

 

[Shambles1980]

Not really seeing how some users hurts steams credibility.
Now if steam had decided to pay devs not to release games on epic.. That would have hurt their credibility, but given the reply's of some in this thread i actually dont think even that would have.

 

[Patriot]

You are quite right. They probably assumed their fan base was mature enough to deal with adversity (if you want to stretch it that far) in a healthy manner. They also probably thought their fans loved their game instead of Steam. The probably also thought their fans would understand this is the publisher's decision.

You must be a console gamer.
People play on PC to avoid exclusives.
If a platform is superior it doesn't require bribes... and yes paid exclusives are Very much bribes.
Fans do understand their decision completely. It was about money, not fans. Fans get an inferior experience and US fans get $10 off. Everywhere else gets screwed.
GOG and Steam are much superior platforms to Tencent/Epic. I prefer GOG because well, it's as close to owning physical media as you can get.
Dismissing reasons wont get you anywhere... you sound like the G2A dev, name calling and ignoring all the stated reasons of frustration.
I will treat this as I do console exclusives. You can reward the publisher for hurting the community, I will not.

 

[Ubersonic]

"The Metacritic review-bombing is the latest episode in a long saga of animosity between Steam users and "Exodus" developer 4A Games. "

It's worth bearing in mind that these people aren't just "Steam users", they are also 4K Games customers, customers irate at the anti-consumer tactics that have been employed for this release (which were not present for either of the previous releases).

Yes because I am sure Steam doesn't have exclusives....or Xbox....or Playstation...Need a few more dots....

Actually the only Steam games that are tied to Steam are the ones Valve made in house (I.E Half-Life franchise, Portal franchise, etc). Hence why this has been such a firestorm over what Epic/etc have done here, because for all it's faults Steam has never done anything this anti-consumer.

 

[moproblems99]

People play on PC to avoid exclusives.

Nope. Haven't bought a console since the PS2.

People play on PC to avoid exclusives.

How's that working out?

I thought people played on the PC so they didn't have turd graphics. I must have been mistaken that people play on PC for Steam.

 

[Xuper]

Another shady greedy arrangements between publisher and owner of game launcher/store, of course at the expense of consumer. I say no to these practices and vote with my wallet.
Game is quite bad- its the same boring Metro game, with good graphics and bad everything else. Story, characters, shooting mechanics- they all suck. Game lacks great atmosphere of previous ones, instead it has Mad Max vibe noone asked for. No thanks. Dont buy this game, its not worth. Wait year for Steam version, or forget it entirely. Its not worth your time and money

Some of comments are about Steam

 

[Super XP]

That’s not what the 4A employee said. He merely said what the logical result will be. Future development costs come from publisher.

The publisher is not going to put forth pc development money if the PC game makes no money due to people’s anger. He merely said what the likely result could be.

And that's the problem. The very fact Ukrainian Studio and who ever else thought of this bone headed move, that pulled the game from STEAM is a testament of how ridiculous the move was. Stupid Business Move., which will come out soon enough.
Not only is this Anti-Competition, its outright forcing people NOT TO CHOOSE how they would like to purchase the game.

Why not release the game on both STEAM and EPIC, and let Gamer's decide. Problem Solved, but of course we know who would dominate, hence why they made this decision. In the end, the developers will suffer from poor sales for the 1st year, if STEAM users actually do ban the game till its released on there perfected platform. STEAM.

"The Metacritic review-bombing is the latest episode in a long saga of animosity between Steam users and "Exodus" developer 4A Games. "

It's worth bearing in mind that these people aren't just "Steam users", they are also 4K Games customers, customers irate at the anti-consumer tactics that have been employed for this release (which were not present for either of the previous releases).



Actually the only Steam games that are tied to Steam are the ones Valve made in house (I.E Half-Life franchise, Portal franchise, etc). Hence why this has been such a firestorm over what Epic/etc have done here, because for all it's faults Steam has never done anything this anti-consumer.

Don't forget Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, and people have been yelling out loud where the F is Left 4 Dead 3? Quite angry with valve actually lol

 

[64K]

Not really seeing how some users hurts steams credibility.
Now if steam had decided to pay devs not to release games on epic.. That would have hurt their credibility, but given the reply's of some in this thread i actually dont think even that would have.

He probably meant the credibility of Steam reviewers.

As has been said by others here. 4A Games and Steam aren't even an issue in this. Koch Media and Deep Silver made the decision to pull the game from Steam when offered money to do so by Epic. Gabe Newell has said this was unfair. Just having a game on Steam is valuable because it reaches so many millions of potential customers.

 

[Super XP]

Childish move by Steam users. Review bombing only hurts the platform's creditability.

No No, childish to the morons that choose to remove this game off Steam for an exclusive year. That's who is responsible for this outcry which hurts there own credibility. Not the other way around. They choose this path, now they have to suck it up and eat the criticism. lol

 

[natr0n]

Hive mind of hatred.

 

[Space Lynx]

Would be if all stores can sell the game not just one so customer can choose.

welcome to the free markets of capitalism, don't buy it if you don't want. if they lose enough sales then they will change their policy in the future. that is the beauty of the free markets. personally if I were wanting to buy it right now, I would just buy it on Epic Games store.

More money for the developers, that is true, but, the only developers that Epic is bribing to make their games exclusive to the Epic store are well known developers that would be successful on Steam anyway, not the struggling indies that actually would need help.

Less cost to consumers though? That's just not true, the game was cheaper on authorized resellers like the Razer store (before the Epic bribe) than it is on the Epic Store.

Personally I wouldn't mind the Epic Store if only they weren't bribing developers to make their games timed exclusive, that anti-competition practice has no place on an open market like the PC.
If a developers chooses to release a game exclusively on a specific store without the influence of a moneyhat/bribe, that's fine, but what Epic is doing though, paying devs to not release on Steam, that is not fine.

they are helping a lot of indie devs actually, not sure what you smokin bro. Journey probably would have never made it to PC, plus the free games they give away like Axiom Verge helps those small developers stay afloat long after sales have died off. I never saw Gabe throw them a helping hand, so yeah, word to the g dawgs

 

[Super XP]

Why buy a game off the Epic Games Store? No reason nor incentive to buy any game from such a massive lacking platform.
No wonder people rather buy STEAM Games. Just look at all the supportive features.

 

[64K]

Why buy a game off the Epic Games Store? No reason nor incentive to buy any game from such a massive lacking platform.
No wonder people rather buy STEAM Games. Just look at all the supportive features.
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That sums it up nicely. I just want Epic to deserve my business.

 

[Super XP]

That sums it up nicely. I just want Epic to deserve my business.

Agreed.
If they had more options such as Steam for example, I would consider it. But they clearly aren't ready for prime time.

 

[HD64G]

I am deeply worried about where things are going with humanity. Especially when people are taking games so seriously in order to become infuriated and hate people, companies, platforms, etc. Generation by generation we are going more crazy by the mile...

 

[Shambles1980]

i have the same worries about people not caring that businesses conduct shady practices and blame the consumers for getting upset about it.

 

[Super XP]

I am deeply worried about where things are going with humanity. Especially when people are taking games so seriously in order to become infuriated and hate people, companies, platforms, etc. Generation by generation we are going more crazy by the mile...

People have a choice to install Epic and play Metro Exodus now or simply wait for the Steam Version. But what people should not be doing is bashing the game because the publisher made a bad decision. Simply boycott the game for a year then buy it on Steam once available. If you are upset with this decision, e-mail the publisher and give them flack.

 

[Shambles1980]

If you are upset with this decision, e-mail the publisher and give them flack.

100% not gonna end up in the spam list and deleted
But review bombing hurts metacritic more than any one else so they really shouldnt do it.