*** F@H Tech Assistance Thread ***

[agent00skid]

I think that you have to live with the default voltage on your new Asus 280X. It was good enough for some OC if you remember to lower the RAM speed to 1500 MHz.

No problem there. But I find it a bit noisy, so I was hoping to experiment with undervolting at stock. 1070 isn't something to sneeze at.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

@IcePick :

I crunch/fold same time. 4790k stock. GTX 970 1442MHz.
During folding my GPU will go from 1442MHz to 1164MHz but the load is the same.
Why is my GPU downclocking? All my OC settings are BIOS modded so I only use afterburner for a fan profile.
The temps are better when downclocked but it seems to be noticeably slower at folding.
Anyone know why FAH is downclocking a GPU?

Is the card thermal throttling? Some WU's run hotter than others, so what seems like good temps may not be when a different WU comes along.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Mods, delete my other thread please. Sorry.

Max temp overnight was 72C. I do not believe it is thermal throttling. I'm just imagining something like a "Max performance mode" for Nvidia Inspector or the like is causing this. Can I add the FAH process to Nvidia Control Panel?
It is at 71C 1442MHz now I think because I am using the browser. I believe once I close the browser my GPU will downclock again back to 1164MHz and 50%power. When it was folding at 1442MHz it was at roughly 75% power and its always at high 90s usage no matter the clocks.
I am crunching at the same time 85/100. usage/time. Afterburner shows 88-90% cpu uasge at 73C.

 

[mstenholm]

Mods, delete my other thread please. Sorry.

Max temp overnight was 72C. I do not believe it is thermal throttling. I'm just imagining something like a "Max performance mode" for Nvidia Inspector or the like is causing this. Can I add the FAH process to Nvidia Control Panel?
It is at 71C 1442MHz now I think because I am using the browser. I believe once I close the browser my GPU will downclock again back to 1164MHz and 50%power. When it was folding at 1442MHz it was at roughly 75% power and its always at high 90s usage no matter the clocks.
I am crunching at the same time 85/100. usage/time. Afterburner shows 88-90% cpu uasge at 73C.

My GTX 1070 needs to have Firefox running to keep it run the high clock. None of my 970s had that problem.

 

[Athlonite]

My GTX 1070 needs to have Firefox running to keep it run the high clock. None of my 970s had that problem.

if you want to stop using the browser client and keep the clocks pegged at maximum you can go into the advanced settings for F@H and set the usage to max which will keep the clocks pegged to their maximum which is what I do

 

[Upgrayedd]

if you want to stop using the browser client and keep the clocks pegged at maximum you can go into the advanced settings for F@H and set the usage to max which will keep the clocks pegged to their maximum which is what I do

Are you talking about Advanced Control-Configure-Advanced and then the "Folding Core Priority" options?

 

[mstenholm]

Are you talking about Advanced Control-Configure-Advanced and then the "Folding Core Priority" options?

Try one of the older drivers. I think that the new drivers released with Pascal was the problem for me. Since you don't need latest driver for folding (always a bad idea to just update drivers when it comes to folding) try 373.06. In a few days I will tell what I'm using on my GX 970s.

Have a look here, you are not alone - https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=29880

 

[Upgrayedd]

Try one of the older drivers. I think that the new drivers released with Pascal was the problem for me. Since you don't need latest driver for folding (always a bad idea to just update drivers when it comes to folding) try 373.06. In a few days I will tell what I'm using on my GX 970s.

Have a look here, you are not alone - https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=29880

It is what I thought it was. The load isn't enough for the card to run at boost clocks. I was on 378.92 and was getting a core 21 error over and over, updated to newest drivers, works like a charm now other than the boost flag. Flags were introduced in the 320.14 drivers.
Thanks.

 

[Athlonite]

Are you talking about Advanced Control-Configure-Advanced and then the "Folding Core Priority" options?

Yes

 

[Overclocker_2001]

hi everybody
i've got a little problem... my rig was a gtx460 + c2q8400 +vista 64bit and everything was fine
then i added a quadro 600 ( bought for less than 15€ ) and everything was fine ( except for low ppd of the tiny quadro )
then i bought a gtx670... and here start the problem
i cannot OC my gtx460 ( is liquid cooled )... afterburner read the clocks, but won't change them
and the second problem is that folding@home read ( was the same also with the qadro ) wrong id card.. gpu 0 is the gtx670 but folding say that it's the gtx460 ( display output connected to gtx670 ) and give me WU thaqt result in low PPD for the gtx460

my first goal is to set up f@h client so i can monitor the right gpu..
the second will be re enable overclock ( rock-solid as before... reached over 3M with gpu overclocked )

thanks to everyone that will help me

 

[mstenholm]

hi everybody
i've got a little problem... my rig was a gtx460 + c2q8400 +vista 64bit and everything was fine
then i added a quadro 600 ( bought for less than 15€ ) and everything was fine ( except for low ppd of the tiny quadro )
then i bought a gtx670... and here start the problem
i cannot OC my gtx460 ( is liquid cooled )... afterburner read the clocks, but won't change them
and the second problem is that folding@home read ( was the same also with the qadro ) wrong id card.. gpu 0 is the gtx670 but folding say that it's the gtx460 ( display output connected to gtx670 ) and give me WU thaqt result in low PPD for the gtx460

my first goal is to set up f@h client so i can monitor the right gpu..
the second will be re enable overclock ( rock-solid as before... reached over 3M with gpu overclocked )

thanks to everyone that will help me

First of all are you running all three GPUs? Since your CPU is a two core it would use 100 % just to run two GPUs. Could you OC the 460 before?
I doubt that it is related which gpu # the fah-client report with a low output. I assume that you use the driver that came with the 670 or a newer one?
Since your output has been on/off it is hard for me to see what PPD you actually got with the quadro and the 460. The 460 will not give you more than 15 kPPD. The 670 on it's own might net you 80-90 kPPD. Onless it is a dedicated folding rig I suggest to only run the 670.

Check this for other users best results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?gid=0#

 

[thebluebumblebee]

@mstenholm beat me...and I'm assuming that you've pulled the Quadro
I won't claim to have an actual answer for your specific configuration, but here are some thoughts:
The GTX 670 uses about the same amount of electricity as the GTX 460, but will do 3+ times more PPD. It might be time to retire the 460.
Mixing generations of GPU's has always be problematic, especially Nvidia GPU's. The Quadro 600 is Fermi based so it would get along with the 460, but the 670 is Maxwell. Might be time to retire the 460.

 

[Overclocker_2001]

it's not a folding rig... in italy electricity bill is very huge ( 25 cent per kwh )
i fold only when i'm away, and only on the week-end ( at least the start-up wu )
i've pulled away quadro
before putting in the 670 the gtx460 was in the 22-26kPPD ( overclocked without voltage increase ) with core 18 , my cpu is a quadcore one ( but i do not fold on the cpu... too less PPD )
mb the new core 21 give me low PPD on gtx 460
driver was the same that i've used before... i'll retire 460 when will be too slow even as a physix card ( i also play game on that pc )

thanks for the fast reply

 

[Athlonite]

it's not a folding rig... in italy electricity bill is very huge ( 25 cent per kwh )

That's cheap mines at 37 cents per KWh + a 38 cents a day line charge

 

[infrared]

I need help.. Trying to get f@h installed on Linux Mint 18, following instructions Here.. It downloaded the files fine, but when trying to install I'm getting this:

On the first attempt it went through the setup with user/team#/passkey etc, but then came up with the same error.

From doing some google searching, some people were saying it's something to do with old versions of python, I tried making a symbolic link from python2.6 - python2.7 (apparently this worked for someone), but that didn't help. This is driving me nuts! Any ideas?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

F@H Ubuntu 15.10 install for Nvidia GPU's
You could look at that thread and what I did (I was such a rebel). Looks like installing F@H is now a "normal" thing to do, instead of a "custom" install like it used to be.
I would start with updating Mint (especially the video driver) and then rebooting.
Also, this is one of the few times that it seems that Linux needs to reboot - during this install process.

 

[infrared]

F@H Ubuntu 15.10 install for Nvidia GPU's
You could look at that thread and what I did (I was such a rebel). Looks like installing F@H is now a "normal" thing to do, instead of a "custom" install like it used to be.
I would start with updating Mint (especially the video driver) and then rebooting.
Also, this is one of the few times that it seems that Linux needs to reboot - during this install process.

Spot on, I'll give that a try in the AM.
If you don't hear anything, assume the worst! Most likely I'll have gone insane and will be rocking in the corner hugging my knees! ..

 

[infrared]

Follow-up double post!

That was a ballache, after trying various installation methods and updating Mint, it turned out the problem was simply that I'd unchecked the 'start fah on startup' and for some reason it didn't like that.. Finally got it installed, and then when I got into fah and couldn't add the gpu slot, it kept saying "no gpu available". This turned out to be the gpus.txt file missing so I had to find/download that and use the terminal to sudo the file into the folder (permissions). It STILL wouldn't work but just turned out that it needed a restart.

This took me 2 freakin hours to figure out! But Ttanks @thebluebumblebee for the advice, definitely set me going in the right direction and saved me some time.

1080Ti is folding away nicely now, it'll be interesting to see what kinda points per wu it gets, should complete them fast (it's doing 155,000 estimated credit for the current WU! ). This won't be folding 24/7, I'll just fire it up periodically, runs too hot and loud to have going all the time.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I got to use a 1080 Ti for a bit. Under Win10, it averaged about 1M PPD!

This turned out to be the gpus.txt file missing

That is just weird how that happens, sometimes. To my knowledge, it hasn't happened to me yet.

runs too hot and loud to have going all the time.

Time to water cool that bad boy.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Please excuse me if this isnt the ideal place for this, it seemed most fitting for viewership.

Anyone in the wcg/f@h community living in the united states have need for a powerful air cpu cooler, i have this FF to the member who can fit & use it. 180w solution, unused HW is a crime, please help me find it a good loving home

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Please shoot me a pm, i dont have notifications enabled. Please pay close attention to the size diagrams as this thing is massive. The mounting hardware for AMD as well as Intel is included

 

[BirdoSwaggins]

I ain't gonna complain if it does stay, but anybody got any ideal why my 660 ti would be pushing almost 400k ppd, its been sitting there close to an hour. Im usually lucky to get 100k ppd per card.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

We've had a time in the past when a specific WU ran abnormally on a specific GPU. IIRC, I was getting ~115K on a GTX 560 Ti!

Just keep an eye on it and see what the final credit give is in the log.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Hi all, is anyone else folding on a vega, I suppose this could affect other cards but anyway.
I noticed something odd , my ppd goes up marginally if i either leave the fah screenssver on or(and how i noticed) activate the protein viewer, is it just me?.

 

[mstenholm]

Several not related problems

I noticed that after 2-3 minutes after I turn off my monitor the GPU Clock goes down to base clock plus whatever OC I added via MSI Afterbuner. In my case 2010 down to 1365 MHz. PerfCap Reason 16 according to GPU-Z log. Edit: See below. I don't know when it began since HFM have given me problem for long. Get this funny pop-up when I start it (translated Data on root level are not valid). Got no idea how to add the '/r' switch

I did remove it HFM, ran Registry Cleaner and installed the newest version but it still the same. Any ways I don't know when the down-clocking problem began, was it when I exchanged the the 1070 to the 2060 or when I got a new monitor? Sure there is no pause screen set. I lose around 200k PPD when the monitor is off,. Sure I save 80 (GPU)+30 (monitor off) W but......
WIN 7 updated.
Edit: If I have two instances off GPU-Z 2.16.0 open and turn off the monitor (or listen to net based Radio) it clock down. If I have one or zero GPU-Z running when I turn off the monitor it keeps the proper Core clock. Hmm. Better check before I leave the PC and turn off the monitor. The funny thing is that there are not two actual windows showing GPU-Z but in the lower right corner showing running programs programs it shows two GPU-Z Icons with slightly different data.

 

[Athlonite]

Got no idea how to add the '/r' switch

you need to edit the links properties where it says C:\*\HFM\HFM.exe and ad the /r to that