Need to upgrade parts of my current build. Asking for advises.

[cucker tarlson]

have a look at ninja 5 too

 

[winterwonderland]

cs3030 bas better nand memory.toshiba's drives use micron's memory which is trash by today's standards imo,they're nice drives tho cause caching works very well.once the buffer runs out it can't keep up with v-nand/bics drives tho

d15 is nice,any dual tower will do great.

Ok, you've convinced me. I'll go for the CS3030, plus it's cheaper anyways, heh-

The Noctua D15 is a Great cooler but the Arctic 34 eSports Duo would easily handle the 3700x.
I have my 3700x with PBO enabled and I use the Asus Performance Enhancer Level 3 (BIOS setting that uses PBO Tweaks by Asus and The Stilt).
My CPU idles at around 30c and maxes out around 62c after hours of gaming or encoding videos (my room temp is 21-22c).

If you plan on ever upgrading to a 3950x, I'd get the D15, but for the 3700x the Arctic works very well.

have a look at ninja 5 too

So. Arctic 34 esports costs half the price of D15 while Ninja 5 is priced in-between Arctic and D15.... Which one to go for? Bare in mind that ONE day, i would want to make an upgrade... And which one of those is the most quiet one? D15 seems to be the more upgrading friendly cooler...

 

[cucker tarlson]

Ok, you've convinced me. I'll go for the CS3030, plus it's cheaper anyways, heh-





So. Arctic 34 esports costs half the price of D15 while Ninja 5 is priced in-between Arctic and D15.... Which one to go for? Bare in mind that ONE day, i would want to make an upgrade... And which one of those is the most quiet one?

ninja is the quietest I think

 

[winterwonderland]

ninja is the quietest I think

Interesting. But it seems to be VERY big.... will that be TOO big for my current tower maybe?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Interesting. But it seems to be VERY big.... will that be TOO big for my current tower maybe?

r6 ? that's a huge case.
ninja 5 is a long ass cooler but I don't think it's excessively high.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

You won't need a massive cooler for the 2700x processor.
I suggest using the stock heatsink first, then see how it fairs.

PBO will have 3 boost stages. 4ghz is the standard. It will level up to 4.1ghz & 4.2ghz with PBO OC settings.

Need any pointers, I'm glad to help.

 

[winterwonderland]

r6 ? that's a huge case.
ninja 5 is a long ass cooler but I don't think it's excessively high.

You won't need a massive cooler for the 2700x processor.
I suggest using the stock heatsink first, then see how it fairs.

PBO will have 3 boost stages. 4ghz is the standard. It will level up to 4.1ghz & 4.2ghz with PBO OC settings.

Need any pointers, I'm glad to help.

Man i am impressed about the N5 reviews and results on various tests! VERY tempted to get that one. it should be noted that my pc SHOULD be as quiet as possible, and that N5 cooler seems to win most of the noise tests out there! AND it's apparently $30 cheaper than D15 as well! yep, a clear candidate in my books that.

Now onto the whole GPU-thing... what GPU should i really go for? I have 4 screens that i will be using. MAYBE a possible 5th screen, but not as of yet anyways. dunno if that has anything to do with it, but oh well. For now, i have found some great candidates:
- If i'd suddenly go for 2700X, i'll most likely go for the mentioned GTX 1660 Super.
- If, although i'm QUITE certain that i will go for 3700X, i have been suggested Sapphire pulse 5700 xt, Powercolor red dragon 5700 xt and RX 5700 XT Nitro+

So, the question is what will work greatest for my purposes. i WILL do SOME gaming, preferably at 1440p, but not an absolute requirement (i will be using LG 32GK850F monitor), but i will mainly do some heavy streaming (several streams on at once), multi-tasking, rendering, sound editing, video editing, some photoshop and heavy browsing.

It's also about the budget, ofc. Nitro+ costs $50 -more- than the other GPUs i listed. @cucker tarlson mentioned some alternatives, but i wonder what specific models he was referring to.

 

[NoJuan999]

The Scythe Ninja 5 is a 6 pipe cooler so it should even perform better than the 4 pipe Arctic 34 eSports Duo.
The Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B is another good cooler bit I don't think it's as quiet as the Ninja 5.

As far as the GPU goes I have zero experience with the 5700XT's so I can't help you with those.
I'd say just read as many reviews from reliable sites and see which 5700xt get recommended by the majority of reviewers.

 

[winterwonderland]

The Scythe Ninja 5 is a 6 pipe cooler so it should even perform better than the 4 pipe Arctic 34 eSports Duo.
The Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B is another good cooler bit I don't think it's as quiet as the Ninja 5.

As far as the GPU goes I have zero experience with the 5700XT's so I can't help you with those.
I'd say just read as many reviews from reliable sites and see which 5700xt get recommended by the majority of reviewers.

I agree with that. I checked out Mugen as well, but nah, it doesn't seem to be more quiet than N5, so N5 seems to be the choice right now, for sure. I doubt i'll regret on that choice, to put it that way.

Yes, i guess that is what i'll have to do. What'd be similar cards to 5500XT then.. i guess i'll google that as well. hehe.

 

[cucker tarlson]

imo wait for the 5600xt,might be price/perf killer

if you're considering stretching the budget to 5700xt,consider looking for a new 2070 on sale or 2060 super.they're practically the same

Grafikkarten-Rangliste 2025: 36 GPUs im Benchmark-Vergleich

Update: Grafikkarten-Rangliste 2025 mit Nvidia-, AMD- und Intel-Grafikkarten: Benchmark-Übersicht mit allen wichtigen Grafikchips.

www.pcgameshardware.de

the turing card lets you play with rtx a little bit and from what I gathered around turing's encoder is really good for streaming.if going for 5700xt go with nitro.the entry level partner cards are trash mostly and have problems with memory running hot.

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Review

Sapphire's Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ is the company's flagship Navi card. It comes with a large triple-slot, triple-fan cooler that runs quiet and cool. Adjustable RGB lighting and fan-stop is included, too. A unique addition is the ability to control the dual BIOS switch through software.

www.techpowerup.com

90 degrees on memory chips is just like


btw if you've got the budget for 3700x and 5700xt you should consider 3600 and 2070 super,it's a better option to go for a gpu that's 10% faster out of the box and 15% overclocked than a cpu that's gonna be maybe 5% faster,and only at times.IMO even a 2700 non-X would do for 60 fps gaming/streaming and allow you to put the budget where it matters.

 

[(*^^*)]

With OBS, a free live distribution software, you can use NVENC to encode live on a GPU. Just add a GPU to the motherboard slot. Reduces CPU load and FPS does not drop much. GTX1050ti ~ 2080ti can be assigned to NVENC. If there are a lot of parts that can be used now, it is a very economical operation method.

 

[Thefumigator]

I probably don't need to upgrade my RAM just yet, right?

The reasons i am in need of an upgrade is so that i can multitask a little more efficiently.
- An example: My work consists of having several streams (4-5) available on my screens while i do some browsing at the same time. Now it becomes very laggy and sometimes a bit slow when i am doing so. My connection is fine, though, so it's mostly the hardware.
- Another example is when i record i.e a screen with a flash running (such as a stream/casino event/etc), it gets a bit choppy/laggy sometimes when recording, even though i tried to optimize the settings as much as possible for my pc.
- Aside from that, i want to do some easy/basic gaming as well as some casual video/picture editing without things needing to be processed for a crazy amount of time (yep, i know it takes time to render etc.)

Seems AMD is the way to go. Even if your ram is "slow" I have experienced Ryzens with slow RAM and they kick it for such tasks. Try to get a Ryzen with the most real+virtual cores. Like an old Ryzen 1700 (or higher). Keep your ram if you want.

As for the GPU, there are quite some options. I like the "rather old" Radeon 580, the 8GB version is around 180 bucks in the USA.

 

[winterwonderland]

imo wait for the 5600xt,might be price/perf killer

if you're considering stretching the budget to 5700xt,consider looking for a new 2070 on sale or 2060 super.they're practically the same

Grafikkarten-Rangliste 2025: 36 GPUs im Benchmark-Vergleich

Update: Grafikkarten-Rangliste 2025 mit Nvidia-, AMD- und Intel-Grafikkarten: Benchmark-Übersicht mit allen wichtigen Grafikchips.

www.pcgameshardware.de

the turing card lets you play with rtx a little bit and from what I gathered around turing's encoder is really good for streaming.if going for 5700xt go with nitro.the entry level partner cards are trash mostly and have problems with memory running hot.

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Review

Sapphire's Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ is the company's flagship Navi card. It comes with a large triple-slot, triple-fan cooler that runs quiet and cool. Adjustable RGB lighting and fan-stop is included, too. A unique addition is the ability to control the dual BIOS switch through software.

www.techpowerup.com

90 degrees on memory chips is just like


btw if you've got the budget for 3700x and 5700xt you should consider 3600 and 2070 super,it's a better option to go for a gpu that's 10% faster out of the box and 15% overclocked than a cpu that's gonna be maybe 5% faster,and only at times.IMO even a 2700 non-X would do for 60 fps gaming/streaming and allow you to put the budget where it matters.

Interesting. It's not THAT big of a difference between 3700X vs 3600 when thinking about my field of usage, as i've mentioned earlier. I mean, it is a difference, but not a $150 worth of difference anyway. I could then use the money i save on the CPU to go for a RTX 2070 Super. I like that plan, yes. but, which 2070 Super to go for, that's another question... But yes, im totally onboard with that idea of yours. I believe 2080 Super would be both an overkill + too pricey, even if i'd find one used, right?

With OBS, a free live distribution software, you can use NVENC to encode live on a GPU. Just add a GPU to the motherboard slot. Reduces CPU load and FPS does not drop much. GTX1050ti ~ 2080ti can be assigned to NVENC. If there are a lot of parts that can be used now, it is a very economical operation method.

Neat. Naturally, i will be using OBS a lot, so that would defintely be useful. but... is that function available on the above mentioned 2070 Super?

Seems AMD is the way to go. Even if your ram is "slow" I have experienced Ryzens with slow RAM and they kick it for such tasks. Try to get a Ryzen with the most real+virtual cores. Like an old Ryzen 1700 (or higher). Keep your ram if you want.

As for the GPU, there are quite some options. I like the "rather old" Radeon 580, the 8GB version is around 180 bucks in the USA.

Me going for AMD setup is long decided 100%. I am just trying to fine adjust the components i am going for, as you can see. hehe. Not sure how the card you mention will be compared to 2070 Super etc...

The thing is that my work's given me a certain budget that i can stretch a little, which i've done with those previously mentioned upgrades. And the budget i have, will either be all used for upgrading my pc or be devoted to other projects, which is obviously not an option for me, hehe.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Interesting. It's not THAT big of a difference between 3700X vs 3600 when thinking about my field of usage, as i've mentioned earlier. I mean, it is a difference, but not a $150 worth of difference anyway. I could then use the money i save on the CPU to go for a RTX 2070 Super.

Abso-friggin-lutely

2080s is not that interesting price wise as 2070s.
If you go for 2070s then go for MSI.gaming x is excellent,gaming trio is just ridiculous.mine does 2085 on core and temperatures stay in low 50s with just 50% fan,and that is with RTX on that stresses it even more.check the tpu review,65 degrees at 28dba is lowest they tested a GPU ever.
If you decide on 5700xt then nitro plus or bust.

 

[Zach_01]

i have been suggested Sapphire pulse 5700 xt, Powercolor red dragon 5700 xt and RX 5700 XT Nitro+

So, the question is what will work greatest for my purposes. i WILL do SOME gaming, preferably at 1440p, but not an absolute requirement (i will be using LG 32GK850F monitor), but i will mainly do some heavy streaming (several streams on at once), multi-tasking, rendering, sound editing, video editing, some photoshop and heavy browsing.

It's also about the budget, ofc. Nitro+ costs $50 -more- than the other GPUs i listed. @cucker tarlson mentioned some alternatives, but i wonder what specific models he was referring to.

FPS performance wise all 5700XTs are the same, just 2-3% give or take. It all comes down to thermals and noise. From those 3 the best in this aspect is the Nitro+ only second to MSI’s GamingX. The other 2, Pulse and RedDragon, I’d say are about the same. Still very nice thermal performance though compared to reference XTs.

 

[winterwonderland]

Abso-friggin-lutely

2080s is not that interesting price wise as 2070s.
If you go for 2070s then go for MSI.gaming x is excellent,gaming trio is just ridiculous.mine does 2085 on core and temperatures stay in low 50s with just 50% fan,and that is with RTX on that stresses it even more.check the tpu review,65 degrees at 28dba is lowest they tested a GPU ever.
If you decide on 5700xt then nitro plus or bust.

Hmm.. looks like i gotta find which one is more quiet out of the 2070 Gaming X and 5700x Nitro+.... But, the thing is that IF i choose 2070 Gaming X + Ryzen 3600, i will save about $50 compared to Ryzen 3700X + 5700x Nitro+... but at what cost will it be in terms of noise + perfomance. That's gonna be interesting to find out. Any thoughts on that?

EDIT: Hmm... was looking at this: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-taichi-oc-plus/31.html - and it looks like the 2070 8gb triumphs over 5700 XT quite a lot when it comes to noise.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Hmm.. looks like i gotta find which one is more quiet out of the 2070 Gaming X and 5700x Nitro+.... But, the thing is that IF i choose 2070 Gaming X + Ryzen 3600, i will save about $50 compared to Ryzen 3700X + 5700x Nitro+... but at what cost will it be in terms of noise + perfomance. That's gonna be interesting to find out. Any thoughts on that?

do you mean 2070 or 2070 super ?
yeah,that's a thing.

 

[Zach_01]

You can save 50 by getting 3600 and Nitro+...

 

[eidairaman1]

You won't need a massive cooler for the 2700x processor.
I suggest using the stock heatsink first, then see how it fairs.

PBO will have 3 boost stages. 4ghz is the standard. It will level up to 4.1ghz & 4.2ghz with PBO OC settings.

Need any pointers, I'm glad to help.

Id look at scythe and thermalright

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Id look at scythe and thermalright

Oh I don't need any fancy looking cooler for 105w (350BTUhr) processor. The Wraith Prism does the job just fine.
BUT
With some testing even on my Geothermal (sub ambient/multiple chips) loop, I did not gain any frequency headway.

In short, it's a waste of money to replace the stock cooler on Ryzen chips. Otherwise I may have considered it if testing showed good results with lower temps, which it did not.

@ -30c idle +13c loaded (cinebench) ,the max frequency with my 2700X remained 4.5ghz from air cooling to sub zero and everything in between....

HOWEVER- I was able to utilize a much lower voltage running sub zero temps. So 4ghz at 1.188v at load. That was all the benefit was from getting temps that low and nothing more. It really helped with leakage a lot.

 

[holyprof]

Oh I don't need any fancy looking cooler for 105w (350BTUhr) processor. The Wraith Prism does the job just fine.
BUT
With some testing even on my Geothermal (sub ambient/multiple chips) loop, I did not gain any frequency headway.

In short, it's a waste of money to replace the stock cooler on Ryzen chips. Otherwise I may have considered it if testing showed good results with lower temps, which it did not.

@ -30c idle +13c loaded (cinebench) ,the max frequency with my 2700X remained 4.5ghz from air cooling to sub zero and everything in between....

HOWEVER- I was able to utilize a much lower voltage running sub zero temps. So 4ghz at 1.188v at load. That was all the benefit was from getting temps that low and nothing more. It really helped with leakage a lot.

Trust me, I have the stock Ryzen 3700 cooler, it's OK, but if you like to listen to music, record and edit sound or do video chat, the noise is unbearable even at idle. I can hear the Wraith Prism RGB even with over-ear headphones on (CPU at idle).
After reading this chat, I'm tempted to buy that Ninja 5 cooler which will give me something between zero and 1% performance, but will lower my system noise from indaquate to dead silent so it's a good investment.

After reading the posts from the last 24 hours, if I was looking for a new system my choice would be:
CPU: Ryzen 3600
CPU cooler: Ninja 5
GPU: 1660 Super or 2600 Super

 

[winterwonderland]

Firstly, i found this test on TPU that shows that 5700XT Red Devil GPU is even more silent than the 2070 Super: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-red-devil/32.html

What you make of it? Red Devil is even cheaper than Nitro+...

do you mean 2070 or 2070 super ?
yeah,that's a thing.

Yeah, i meant 2070 Super, without a doubt. Sorry for not specifying that, man.

You can save 50 by getting 3600 and Nitro+...

Haha, yes, but how is Nitro+ compared to 2070 Super then? In terms of noise and performance for my purposes? According to the test above, it seems like 5700XT is now a good choice....

Trust me, I have the stock Ryzen 3700 cooler, it's OK, but if you like to listen to music, record and edit sound or do video chat, the noise is unbearable even at idle. I can hear the Wraith Prism RGB even with over-ear headphones on (CPU at idle).
After reading this chat, I'm tempted to buy that Ninja 5 cooler which will give me something between zero and 1% performance, but will lower my system noise from indaquate to dead silent so it's a good investment.

After reading the posts from the last 24 hours, if I was looking for a new system my choice would be:
CPU: Ryzen 3600
CPU cooler: Ninja 5
GPU: 1660 Super or 2600 Super

Yep, @cucker tarlson told me about N5, and after further inspection and reading, i was utterly impressed. I am most definitely going for that one, AND it's even cheaper than my initial cooler suggestion: Noctua NH-D15... Go for it. You will probably not regret it. Like my gf says; bigger is better, especially if it's useful... That can definitely be said about N5 as well....

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Trust me, I have the stock Ryzen 3700 cooler, it's OK, but if you like to listen to music, record and edit sound or do video chat, the noise is unbearable even at idle. I can hear the Wraith Prism RGB even with over-ear headphones on (CPU at idle).
After reading this chat, I'm tempted to buy that Ninja 5 cooler which will give me something between zero and 1% performance, but will lower my system noise from indaquate to dead silent so it's a good investment.

After reading the posts from the last 24 hours, if I was looking for a new system my choice would be:
CPU: Ryzen 3600
CPU cooler: Ninja 5
GPU: 1660 Super or 2600 Super

You can hear the 20% fan (idle) over your headphones?
Eek, what headphones do you use so I don't buy them....

 

[AlienIsGOD]

My reference Rx 480 is louder that my 2700s stock hsf I'm used to it by now

 

[holyprof]

You can hear the 20% fan (idle) over your headphones?
Eek, what headphones do you use so I don't buy them....

I left the CPU fan speed on AUTO (silent profile) from motherboard. It runs between 1300 and 1800 rpm. Idle temp is not as low as it used to be on my old i5-4690K (45ºC ryzen3700X / 32ºC i5 in the same room, side by side) so I'm not lowering it. Sadly the "magical" AMD AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABBA didn't lower average idle temperature as much as I expected.
My headphones are OK (cheap medium-low class blueooth).

You can only get better noise cancelling using silicone plugs intended for sleeping. I guess it's my hearing that's a bit more sensitive than the average person.