BEST RAM FOR ASUS HERO X570

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I've looked at a lot of ram and read many conflicting reviews. I'm not all that familiar with the AMD side of things with respect to RAM and how it works with the new infinity fabric and all. Was a former hard core Intel fan until recently. The QVL list for the ASUS HERO X570 is rather extensive. I'd rather get the seasoned advice of those who actually had first hand experience. Would anyone care to contribute?

 

[eidairaman1]

Avoid Corsair like the Plague.

GSkill, Patriot, Crucial/Ballistix, Mushkin, Adata, Geil.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I noticed that Kingston isn't on the list. Hyper X no good?

 

[eidairaman1]

I noticed that Kingston isn't on the list. Hyper X no good?

They werent tested

 

[TheLostSwede]

Kingston should be fine, but what's your goal?
Easy to use or best possible performance?
By chance I ended up getting a pair of Patriot Viper Steel 3600 modules and they've been far better than I expected. They're based on Hynix CJR chips.
I ended up getting a second set and I now run 4x 8GB at decent timings/clocks and it all costed fairly marginally money compared to some of the fancier modules out there.
It's obvious from various tests and user benchmarks here and in other forums that the better Samsung B-die based modules, say from G.Skill for example.
Crucial/Micron memory seems to have the worst overall performance and timings from what I've seen.
This might help you give an idea of what different types of RAM/modules can offer.

AMD Ryzen 3000 DDR4 Scaling – Part II – Samsung B-Die vs Micron E-Die vs Hynix CJR – English version

Samsung B-Die vs Micron E-Die vs Hynix CJR One of the main changes that came with the launch of the X570 chipset, along with the launch of the third generation Ryzen processors, was the way …

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AMD Zen 2 Memory Performance Scaling with Ryzen 9 3900X

We take a close look at memory scaling on AMD's new Zen 2 Ryzen 3900X, testing both application and gaming performance at seven different memory speed and timing combinations ranging from 2400 MHz all the way up to 4000 MHz.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Deleted member 185158]

G.Skill is good stuff. Thats my vote

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

G skill Trident Z NEO is the latest series by G skill designed specifically for Ryzen 3 compatibility, so if you or anyone reading this considering a Ryzen 3 build, definitely go for the Trident Z NEO

 

[TheLostSwede]

G skill Trident Z NEO is the latest series by G skill designed specifically for Ryzen 3 compatibility, so if you or anyone reading this considering a Ryzen 3 build, definitely go for the Trident Z NEO

Because? I mean, plenty of RAM works just fine, but people should get this why? You need to back up statements like that with some facts.

 

[John Naylor]

Like most things PC related, who we buy them from often mattes little as they are only a small set of module suppliers. In most cases, the only thing provided by the vendor is he heat sink design and logo. It's what's underneath that matters. In addition ... RAM specs for any particular model change over time.

We did two Z87 builds few years back...one had Mushkin DDR3-2400 CAS 10 ... the other user had Vengeance Pros CAS 10. Why ? ... it was an aesthetic choice. Other than heatsinks, they were the exact same sticks, both had used high end Hynix modules. The user with the VPs had a problem and asked me to help ..... It was immediately apparent that the 2nd set of VPs were not the same as the originals.

The original VPs had CAS settings of 10-12-12-28; the replacements were 10-12-12-31. Corsair has switched to a cheaper supplier. I tried lowering the settings on the 1st set of Corsairs w/ no luck.... tried voltage increase, no luck. Borrowed the two sticks from the Mushkin build and they worked fine. He returned the VPs bought the Mushkins and other than the aesthetics, all was right with the world.

As for the QVL, I ignore it. A vendor's choice to pay for testing doesn't actually convince me that another is NG. Especially when , under the HS, good chance of being the same thing. Overclockers chased Samsung B-Die but these are out of production since Q2 so will not be around long.

You can track these down with this:

B-Die Finder

Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.

benzhaomin.github.io

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Thank you all for your input. This has helped me immensely and all of you had very significant things to share that have helped me narrow down my selection. I'm so glad I asked first. I was seriously about to go with Hyper X as I'm a bit of a Kingston fan boi.

What the Exiled Airman has stated carries weight with me as he has indicated that he has already tried and tested the RAM that he suggests that I might do well to consider.

The Lost Swede prompted my memory (no pun intended) on something I had read about the Samsung B die modules on a different site and ShrimpBrime also points to G.Skill. He's not alone in this view.

But it looks like John Naylor has nailed it and I know he's right about brand names. It's really the source of the chips on those sticks that matters. Samsung B-Die has caught my eye for the time present but it's still a ways to Black Friday and that would probably be the best time to make a purchase so I have some time and I'm keeping an open mind.

I'm building my very first for me, myself, and I gaming PC. It will also be my very own first AMD gaming build too despite the fact that I've built so many rigs for others over the course of 20 years. This is one for the bucket list. I do alright with my Intel work station but technically it is not a gaming PC.

Any comments on the following?

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www.newegg.ca

 

[moproblems99]

What ever you do, get 4x8 or 2x16 if you want full performance.

 

[mbeeston]

you people hating corsair just have bad luck. i'm using a 3200mhz corsair vengeance LPX for ryzen at 3733mhz 16-16-16-38 with 0 problems.
adata i'd avoid though, it's the ddr4 i replaced.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

What ever you do, get 4x8 or 2x16 if you want full performance.

I'm kind of looking at 64 GB of memory as it will likely be my first and last gaming PC that I build for myself (I'm in my 60's). I want it somewhat "future proofed" and I have a feeling there will be greater memory demands in the years to come with PCIE4 already implemented in the platform.

 

[Tomgang]

Ryzen loves Highest memory clock and low timings possible to a given rate. Infinity fabrik runs 1:1 up to around 1800-1900 MHz depending how high IF can run stable at. That is different for a CPU. Some can do 1900 MHz others baraly 1800 MHz. 1800 MHz on IF translate to 3600 MHz on memory while 1900 MHz IF is 3800 memory clock after that IF runs 2:1.

But as not all ryzen chips can do 1900 MHz on IF i will go for 3600 MHz ram and as low timings possible and what you can afford off cause. But 3600 MHz CL 16-16-16-36 would be a good spot to go for with out prices getting to crazy.

For my Ryzen 9 3950X build i have chosen this memory kit that is G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz 2 x 16 GB = 32Gb in all CL16-16-16-36 1.35V hope to cramp timings down to 14-14-14-32 at 1.45 volts.

There are a 64 GB kit that is 4 x 16 GB that is 3600 MHz CL 16-16-16-36 at 1.35 volts, but it´s gonna be cheap. if it still has interest more info can be found in this link.

F4-3600C16Q-64GTZN - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Engineered and optimized for full compatibility on the latest AMD Ryzen platforms, Trident Z Neo brings unparalleled DRAM memory performance and vibrant RGB lighting to any gaming PC or workstation with latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD DDR4 motherboards.

gskill.com

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

you people hating corsair just have bad luck. i'm using a 3200mhz corsair vengeance LPX for ryzen at 3733mhz 16-16-16-38 with 0 problems.
adata i'd avoid though, it's the ddr4 i replaced.

Mbeeston, I'm using 120 GB of Corsair Dominator RAM in my work station PC. I've never had a problem with it. I've run extensive RAM scans (which you probably already know take the better part of the day to complete) in this RAM and have never found a problem with it. Corsair makes good RAM for the purpose. It isn't that I hate Corsair RAM (there are many other things about Corsair I disdain and will always think twice before I give them my money now). Corsair sells good RAM, great power supplies, and smart looking cases. I loathe their customer DIS-service. That said, I like the low latency numbers you just shared and I'll keep that in mind.

 

[Tomgang]

About the bashing on Corsair ram. I have had no problems with these i have in my current build. One of the kit is over 10 years old now and the other kit is 6 years old now and still going strong. So Corsair is in my opinion not a problem for long time use. I just chose G.skill this time as they are among those to offer the lowest timings kits.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Ryzen loves Highest memory clock and low timings possible to a given rate. Infinity fabrik runs 1:1 up to around 1800-1900 MHz depending how high IF can run stable at. That is different for a CPU. Some can do 1900 MHz others baraly 1800 MHz. 1800 MHz on IF translate to 3600 MHz on memory while 1900 MHz IF is 3800 memory clock after that IF runs 2:1.

But as not all ryzen chips can do 1900 MHz on IF i will go for 3600 MHz ram and as low timings possible and what you can afford off cause. But 3600 MHz CL 16-16-16-36 would be a good spot to go for with out prices getting to crazy.

For my Ryzen 9 3950X build i have chosen this memory kit that is G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz 2 x 16 GB = 32Gb in all CL16-16-16-36 1.35V hope to cramp timings down to 14-14-14-32 at 1.45 volts.

There are a 64 GB kit that is 4 x 16 GB that is 3600 MHz CL 16-16-16-36 at 1.35 volts, but it´s gonna be cheap. if it still has interest more info can be found in this link.

F4-3600C16Q-64GTZN - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Engineered and optimized for full compatibility on the latest AMD Ryzen platforms, Trident Z Neo brings unparalleled DRAM memory performance and vibrant RGB lighting to any gaming PC or workstation with latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD DDR4 motherboards.

gskill.com

Thanks Tom. I'll check it out.

 

[Tomgang]

Thanks Tom. I'll check it out.

Your welcome.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

"but I love X58 even more" Ha ha ha ha I just had to comment. Still running two X58 units here and going strong. My girls love them and wouldn't give them up for the world. I wish the UEFI BIOS in my other units were so reliable.

 

[sneekypeet]

Why not look for reviews from people that use that motherboard? Then you can compare performance between kits and see for yourself where money is best placed.

 

[moproblems99]

I'm kind of looking at 64 GB of memory as it will likely be my first and last gaming PC that I build for myself (I'm in my 60's). I want it somewhat "future proofed" and I have a feeling there will be greater memory demands in the years to come with PCIE4 already implemented in the platform.

4 x 16 is fine too but I think the CPU or ddr4 will be the weaker link before 32gb.

you people hating corsair just have bad luck. i'm using a 3200mhz corsair vengeance LPX for ryzen at 3733mhz 16-16-16-38 with 0 problems.
adata i'd avoid though, it's the ddr4 i replaced.

About the bashing on Corsair ram. I have had no problems with these i have in my current build. One of the kit is over 10 years old now and the other kit is 6 years old now and still going strong. So Corsair is in my opinion not a problem for long time use. I just chose G.skill this time as they are among those to offer the lowest timings kits.

It isn't bashing Corsair. If you look at TPU most of the RAM issue threads are centered on Corsair. Maybe other people just RMA other brands immediately and Corsair buyers are more determined, I dunno. It definitely seems on TPU more problems with Corsair happen.

 

[mbeeston]

Mbeeston, I'm using 120 GB of Corsair Dominator RAM in my work station PC. I've never had a problem with it. I've run extensive RAM scans (which you probably already know take the better part of the day to complete) in this RAM and have never found a problem with it. Corsair makes good RAM for the purpose. It isn't that I hate Corsair RAM (there are many other things about Corsair I disdain and will always think twice before I give them my money now). Corsair sells good RAM, great power supplies, and smart looking cases. I loathe their customer DIS-service. That said, I like the low latency numbers you just shared and I'll keep that in mind.

you be fair, i wasn't meaning you, i was meaning individuals like
eidairaman1

i am glad you are one who is also not having problems with corsair.

 

[sneekypeet]

As said in so many threads, the issue with Corsair is the speed in which they use revisions. RAM for reviews is the early good ICs, and as time goes by, they put a tiny new number on the sticker, and everything changes.

As to the GB correlation, every GB board I had, I installed RAM, it would not clock. Wait three days, and all of a sudden the boards would allow it to be tweaked. Not saying it is the norm, but as a long time RAM tweaker, I tend to stay away from them based on multiple odd experiences

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

you be fair, i wasn't meaning you, i was meaning individuals like
eidairaman1

i am glad you are one who is also not having problems with corsair.

I'm also using a Corsair HX1000i Platinum PSU and never had a problem with it. It isn't the product I have problem with for the most part — it's the support. Boy, I could tell you some stories but I spare you. Caveat Emptor.

 

[eidairaman1]

As said in so many threads, the issue with Corsair is the speed in which they use revisions. RAM for reviews is the early good ICs, and as time goes by, they put a tiny new number on the sticker, and everything changes.

As to the GB correlation, every GB board I had, I installed RAM, it would not clock. Wait three days, and all of a sudden the boards would allow it to be tweaked. Not saying it is the norm, but as a long time RAM tweaker, I tend to stay away from them based on multiple odd experiences

Seems like only the pro line from corsair (certed for Ryzen) are the safest, others not so much whether it is bdie or not, i believe it is corsairs spd and xmp implementation that causes troubles.