Advice sought for 3900x build, accepted bios settings and varying highest speed recorded in various monitors

[lorry]

I have the h115i platinum on my 3900X it outperforms the h150i pretty sure that mostly just comes down to having higher rpm fans though. There's a new Arctic 360 aio coming out that looks promising the 280mm version performs well.

Thank you

 

[INSTG8R]

Nice speed! my best is 396 down, 32 up

Yeah I install and uninstall games like people surf the web. We were talking about DRM and older games so I downloaded Crysis Crysis 2 and Crysis Warhead in a just a few minutes just to fire each one up once to see if they worked

 

[lorry]

Yeah I install and uninstall games like people surf the web. We were talking about DRM and older games so I downloaded Crysis Crysis 2 and Crysis Warhead in a just a few minutes just to fire each one up once to see if they worked

How much storage do you have then??

 

[INSTG8R]

How much storage do you have then??

3TB for games 1TB SDD for the big open worlders and a 2TB RAID 0 Spinny array for everything else

 

[lorry]

3TB for games 1TB SDD for the big open worlders and a 2TB RAID 0 Spinny array for everything else

I need to add more to this. I have an Evo 970 1TB and a 660P 2TB, need to add some larger in the future

Those temps seem fine and adding another fan should improve them even further.

Well, adding the second fan seems to have made zero difference, still 70c


A bit disappointing, but I seem to remember Now that the NH DI-15S with one fan, matched the NH DI-15 with two fans

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I need to add more to this. I have an Evo 970 1TB and a 660P 2TB, need to add some larger in the future



Well, adding the second fan seems to have made zero difference, still 70c
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A bit disappointing, but I seem to remember Now that the NH DI-15S with one fan, matched the NH DI-15 with two fans

70C for a 3900X under full load is pretty good. You will likely not get better performance with an AIO


what are you using to load the cores?

 

[lorry]

Really?

I thought that water cooling was supposed to be better?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Really?

I thought that water cooling was supposed to be better?

Open loop yes... High end air vs High end aio is pretty similar it's really going to come down to ambient temps and how fast you let your aio fans spin.

 

[lorry]

Open loop yes... High end air vs High end aio is pretty similar it's really going to come down to ambient temps and how fast you let your aio fans spin.

Any suggestions then please?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Any suggestions then please?

The amount you would have to spend to improve over your Noctua cooler in a real stress test that last 30-60m doesn't make a whole lot of sense especially if you consider how much noise the aio would need to make for you to get better Temps.


Cinebench R20 doesn't last long enough to get a good idea of how your cooler is functioning especially an aio cooler that may take 5-10m to heat soak before reaching maximum steady temps. I would use Aida 64 extreme just the standard non fpu test at a minimum to test your cooling for a min of 30m preferably 1 hour.

 

[lorry]

The amount you would have to spend to improve over your Noctua cooler in a real stress test that last 30-60m doesn't make a whole lot of sense especially if you consider how much noise the aio would need to make for you to get better Temps.

The Noctua fans were maxed out pretty much at 1439 rpm reported, they weren't That noisy though.
I did the EKWB Custom loop configurator last night and that ended with about a £350 cost ?

 

[INSTG8R]

I need to add more to this. I have an Evo 970 1TB and a 660P 2TB, need to add some larger in the future

Next drive will be a 10TB I think. I’ve run out of space for any more drives so I’ll take out my 1TB WD Blue storage driive and not think about space for awhile

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The Noctua fans were maxed out pretty much at 1439 rpm reported, they weren't That noisy though.
I did the EKWB Custom loop configurator last night and that ended with about a £350 cost ?

I've seen some really good temps from people using an open loop I would do some research and go that route over going from your excellent noctua cooler to an aio that at best will give you 2-5C while being substantially louder. Don't get me wrong I love aio and that is all I use and if you had a box cooler I would recommend one over an air cooler because I cant stand gigantic air coolers in my case lol.

 

[lorry]

Next drive will be a 10TB I think. I’ve run out of space for any more drives so I’ll take out my 1TB WD Blue storage driive and not think about space for awhile

ATM I just have a 3TB external seagate USB attached. Not looked into raid as yet, well I mean I've read about it etc but not looked into it fully

Next drive will be a 10TB I think. I’ve run out of space for any more drives so I’ll take out my 1TB WD Blue storage driive and not think about space for awhile

ATM I just have a 3TB external seagate USB attached

I've seen some really good temps from people using an open loop I would do some research and go that route over going from your excellent noctua cooler to an aio that at best will give you 2-5C while being substantially louder. Don't get me wrong I love aio and that is all I use and if you had a box cooler I would recommend one over an air cooler because I cant stand gigantic air coolers in my case lol.

I must admit that using one now I am not a fan and it has now completely blocked off all the ARGB from the Corsair ram.
I think I will look into an open loop for the future, I have the room in the case which is good.
Depending on how much better the temps would be with an open loop what I Might do is possibly get an AIO for now and look into open loop for the future

 

[INSTG8R]

ATM I just have a 3TB external seagate USB attached

I have 5TB total but my OS is 1TB RAID 0 2x850 EVOs 1TB storage and 3TB Gaming

 

[lorry]

I have 5TB total but my OS is 1TB RAID 0 2x850 EVOs 1TB storage and 3TB Gaming

Can you have a SSD and say a 2.5 inch SSD together in a raid?

 

[EarthDog]

Can you have a SSD and say a 2.5 inch SSD together in a raid?

They are both SSDs... their physical size doesn't matter... did you mean to say that?

Or are you saying an SSD and HDD?

 

[lorry]

They are both SSDs... their physical size doesn't matter... did you mean to say that?

Or are you saying an SSD and HDD?

I have a evo 970 1tb As my boot drive, could i add a evo 860 sata 1tb and make a raid that way?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I must admit that using one now I am not a fan and it has now completely blocked off all the ARGB from the Corsair ram.
I think I will look into an open loop for the future, I have the room in the case which is good.
Depending on how much better the temps would be with an open loop what I Might do is possibly get an AIO for now and look into open loop for the future

Hardware Unboxed during their 3950X review had a 3900X under a pretty decent open loop they did an hour long blender avx workload and peak temps were 68C.

 

[INSTG8R]

Can you have a SSD and say a 2.5 inch SSD together in a raid?

RAID 0 just combines 2 drives into a single volume but I‘‘ve always used 2 matching drives

 

[lorry]

Hardware Unboxed during their 3950X review had a 3900X under a pretty decent open loop they did an hour long blender avx workload and peak temps were 68C.

Blimey that's not That great is it

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Blimey that's not That great is it

Run something with avx for an hour you will likely get over 80c.

 

[lorry]

RAID 0 just combines 2 drives into a single volume but I‘‘ve always used 2 matching drives

There's only 2 m.2 slots on this MB and I have both in use, hence looking at a say an evo 860

Run something with avx for an hour you will likely get over 80c.

So what sort of temps could I expect with an open loop during gaming?
(as that's likely to be my heaviest use atm)

 

[oxrufiioxo]

There's only 2 m.2 slots on this MB and I have both in use, hence looking at a say an evo 860



So what sort of temps could I expect with an open loop during gaming?
(as that's likely to be my heaviest use atm)

during gaming 40-60c on your current cooling would be my guess with an open loop you may be able to get that into the 40-50c range depending on how large a loop you're using

with the Corsair h115i platinum I see a max of 45-55c depending on how cpu demanding the game is.

gaming isn't very demanding though honestly even a 240mm radiator can handle gaming with a 3900x without breaking a sweat.

You can't really compare different chips though some of our cpu may be running at slightly higher or lower voltage depending on silicon quality and motherboard variances.

 

[lorry]

during gaming 40-60c on your current cooling would be my guess with an open loop you may be able to get that into the 40-50c range depending on how large a loop you're using

with the Corsair h115i platinum I see a max of 45-55c depending on how cpu demanding the game is.

gaming isn't very demanding though honestly even a 240mm radiator can handle gaming with a 3900x without breaking a sweat.

But if I am going to do this than I might as well go for the best performance as I can. After all you can guarantee that cooling demands aren't going to lower with any future CPUs( unless Ryzen 4000 series has something up its sleeve that we know nothing about).

This what EKWB comes up with, at €370

Custom Cooling Configurator | Custom Loop Configurator