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Could you do a run at userbenchmark.com to get a baseline on your overclock so far. It might be the best yet. It looks like it's allowing 1.3V. until it hits 65*C. then it drops the Voltage and throttles to 4Ghz.
 
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83% CPU and 97% gaming score. Pretty nice rig. I assume you have the stock cooler and fan. XTU isn't allowing an overvolt or overheat situation to occur. Hmmmmmmmm.
Try HWINFO64 and run the fan up to 100% speed and see what happens to the TS benchmark and your CPU temperatures.

I finally located an old friend BambiboomZ from Tomshardware who is an expert at workstation modding and has some XTU overclocking knowledge. He is very familiar with the T3600 T3610 Dells. He seems to have wandered off to the HP workstation forum.
Here is a sample of his work.
I invited him to look at what we're doing here.
 
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83% CPU and 97% gaming score. Pretty nice rig. I assume you have the stock cooler and fan. XTU isn't allowing an overvolt or overheat situation to occur. Hmmmmmmmm.
Try HWINFO64 and run the fan up to 100% speed and see what happens to the TS benchmark and your CPU temperatures.

I finally located an old friend BambiboomZ from Tomshardware who is an expert at workstation modding and has some XTU overclocking knowledge. He is very familiar with the T3600 T3610 Dells. He seems to have wandered off to the HP workstation forum.
Here is a sample of his work.
I invited him to look at what we're doing here.
I downloaded HWINFO64 and set it to max. (sounds like a tornado) And did the longest TS bench and it stayed at 4.3 for a lot longer and then slowly dropped to about 4.07 steady on all cores till the test finished. During the bench the temps were at 49-54.
 
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Check out the link to the HP forum. Those guys have been using XTU to overclock your CPU in the Z420 workstation. HP also had a water cooler for that socket. Realize that we do engage in some speculation in this thread so the water cooler will be at you own risk. It has 5 wires, all black and IDK what does what.
HWbot is tied in with XTU and saves and shares profiles there. But cooling is a big part of going forward from here.
Dell uses powerful fans but the PWM profile is too little too late for overclocking.
 
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@nathna - I noticed that hyper threading is disabled so CPU-Z and UserBenchmark are reporting 6 Cores - 6 Threads. When hyper threading is enabled, CPU-Z should report 6 Cores - 12 Threads. Some users disable this on purpose. Check your bios if you want to discover the other half of your CPU.

Edit - Also check msconfig in Windows. On the Boot tab, Advanced options, make sure Number of processors is not checked and then reboot.
 
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So here are the unlocked Xeons
LGA1366 Dell T3500,HP Z400 workstations and X58 aftermarket computers. 3 channel DDR3 1333.
W3570,W3580 4C/8T 45nm Nehalem Confirmed HP Z400 Throttlestop 3.9Ghz all cores.
W3680,W3690 6C/12T 32nm Gulftown ConfirmedThrottlestop Dell T3500 4.3GHz all cores.

LGA2011 v1 Sandy Bridge 32nm CPUs. Dell T3600, HPZ420 and X79 aftermarket computers. 4 channel DDR3 1600
E5-1620 ,4C/8T,
E5-1650 ,6C/12T,
E5-1660 ,6C/12T
Soldered heat spreaders.

LGA2011v2 Ivy bridge 22nm Dell T3610,HP Z420, and X79 aftermarket. 4 channel DDR3 1866. TIM heatspreader- runs hotter when OC.
E5-1620v2 ,4C/8T,
E5-1650v2 ,6C/12T Userbenchmark.com has several of these @ 4.2GHz. in Dell T3610
E5-1660v2 ,6C12/T, confirmed Dell T3610 4.3GHz all cores using XTU. Stock cooling.
E5-1680v2 ,8C/16T confirmed HP Forum, custom 3 fan H2O loop 4.7GHz XTU 47x plus 360mV.
Sometimes Throttlestop is blocked from changing the multiplier in LGA2011. Intel XTU seems to work and does control power settings. From what I've seen XTU only applies to Sandy Bridge and newer CPUs. At least the download I saw was like that. So that may turn out to be the dividing line for TS vs. XTU overclocking.
The single CPU T3610 workstation uses use the narrow ILM LGA2011 heatsink bolt pattern that the 2 CPU machines and servers use. Noctua, and Asetek make narrow brackets for some of their coolers and water block/pumps. But you need to plan for this.
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I would like to thank nathna for bringing his T 3610 over here and taking a shot at this. He definitenly added something to our knowledge base and helped us get beyond the X58 barrier. Finding out what doesn't work and publishing it really helps others not waste their time. Finding something that does work is of course much more fun.
I hope he gets some cooling mods going and reports back with more good news.Most games are still single thread. Ignoring HT and ramping up 1 core may have some real value there. The benchmarks love 12T overclocks (so do I) but the "real" gaming world may have other ideas.

This whole thread below is worth a read by anyone interested in software overclocking. It's an HWBot competitor with an HP workstation @ 4.7Ghz telling how it's done.
In a nutshell- cooling matters. The lower temperature = lower resistance= higher clock at the SAME power.
The same applies to VRM. Better cooling = more power.

Don't be scared away by his over the top water loop. He put the video card in the loop also, which IMHO isn't needed.
Water has to be bigger than air to work because it's actually low tech. But a 2 fan 140x280 radiator and an Asetech pump block hosed together is about all that's needed to cool a CPU. But get a 2nd opinion on this to be sure. Don't mix different metals in a cooling loop.

Anyone who's seen my stuff on page 8,9 of this thread knows I'm a "big fan" of air cooling. But the T3610 doesn't lend itself to that ASFAIK. They went to a server heatsink footprint, and added 4 more RAM slots close to the CPU.
The heatsink uses an 80mm fan which needs high RPM to move any air and makes a bunch of noise "trying" to do it.
It's producing about the same OC result as the T3500 heatsink + random fan added.

This cooler is worth a (my $.02) look. Because it might not be too tall, and has brackets to mount either way.
The fans would hang out over the RAM slots, and Dell mounting hardware is "unique". I haven't had my hands on one of these systems so IDK what's going on inside those big ram covers. Noctua is pricey so there may be similar coolers from other brands. But the Noctua style is designed to clear ram slots. The Dynatron stuff sits low between them and tend to be very noisy in the smaller sizes.
------------------------------------------------Reply to nantha from BambiBoomZ at HP forum ---------------------------------------------
Reply to nantha from BambiBoomZ at HP forum. He's looked in here, but can't log on for some reason. I hope he tries again. He really knows his workstation modding.

BambiBoomZ
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Re: William P from Tomshardware re: workstation overclocking thread at TPU
William P,

I had a look at the Throttlestop site thread re: O/C of Xeon E5-1660 v2 on Dell Precision T3610.
Although I’ve never visited Throttlestop, for some reason I'm not allowed to register to the site.

If you could relay this to nantha- Thanks

nantha,

I’ve found that the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) is very effective in overclocking the unlocked LGA-2011 Xeons: E5-1650 v2, E5-1660 v2, and E5-1680 v2, and reportedly the LGA-2011-3: E5-1650 v3, E5-1660 v3, and E5-1680 v3.
I used XTU version 5.2.0.14 (it dates to nearer to the time of the E5-v2 production) to overclock an E5-1660 v2 in an HP z420, the HP WS line similar to the Dell T3600/ T3610.

XTU is extremely easy to use as one only needs to set the multiplier value and then add voltage until the processor is stable. XTU is protective, so it will shut itself down and restart is the voltage is insufficient. I set a limit on a maximum of 1.42 volts.

In general XTU is very reliable, but I have had a very number of XTU kick-off and restarts. These always seem to happen quite near to starting the system and over time, I’ve really cut the startup menu to the minimum and plus waiting a bit longer to start work has helped.
XTU results:

HP z420_2 (2015) (Rev 5) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 4.2GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro P2000 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB / Creative SB X-Fi Titanium + Logitech z2300 2.1 speakers > 600W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit /> 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5920 > CPU= 15129 / 2D= 855 / 3D= 8945 / Mem= 2906 / Disk= 8576] [6.12.16] Single-Thread Mark = 2322 [4.20.17]

The average Passmark single thread mark = 2124.

There were a few failed experiments at 4.3GHz, as the temperatures in Prime 95 were too high. The Passmark Single Thread Mark was significantly improved, but as the main office system ran CPU-based renderings, and I didn’t want to pay the price then of a new z420 AIO liquid cooler- over $200, I decided to change to the 8-core Xeon E5-1680 v2 and also needed 64GB of RAM for the main system.

HP z620_2 (2017) (R7) > Xeon E5-1680 v2 (8-core@ 4.3GHz) / z420 Liquid Cooling / 64GB DDR3-1866 ECC Reg / Quadro P2000 5GB _ GTX 1070 Ti 8GB / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB AHCI + Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB + HGST 7K6000 4TB / Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 sound interface + 2X Mackie MR824 / 825W PSU /> HP OEM Windows 7 Prof.’l 64-bit > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 6280 / CPU rating = 17178 / 2D = 819 / 3D= 12629 / Mem = 3002 / Disk = 13751 / Single Thread Mark = 2368 [10.23.18]

A friend in the UK has a very similar system and thanks to his custom built external cooler (he’s an engineer whose company has complete high tech fabrication gear) runs his E5-1680 v2 at 4.7GHz

The second office system was another z420, used for CAD, rendering and higher resolution image editing, this time with an E5-1650 v2:

HP z420_3: (2015) (R11) Xeon E5-1650 v2 (6C@ 4.3GHz) / z420 Liquid cooling / 64GB (HP/Samsung 4X 8GB DDR3-1866 ECC registered) / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/ Samsung 860 EVO 500GB + HGST 4TB / ASUS Essence STX / Logitech z2300 2.1 / 600W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (HP OEM ) > Samsung 40" 4K
[Passmark System Rating: = 5644 / CPU = 15293 / 2D = 847 / 3D = 10953 / Mem = 2997 Disk = 4858 /Single Thread Mark = 2384 [6.27.19]

thanks to the liquid cooling, z420_3 has the highest single thread rating of any system I’ve had. The average STM for the E5-1650 v2 is 2001, so the improvement is very noticeable. As was the case for z420_2, it was impossible to have above a stable 4.2GHz on the original air cooling and any substantial load would kick it out of XTU. The key to the 4.3GHz success is the special HP z420 liquid cooler and the +150mV voltage is not excessive. The E5-1680 v2 requires +250Mv but that has an 85C rating as compared to the E5 1660 v2's rating of 72C.

The problem with workstations for high-load, all-core applications and also gaming is that the cases are made to be quiet and are don’t have as good an air flow as gaming cases. The GPU’s in WS are always one fan blower designs as multi-fan open GPU’s will heat the case and raise the heat load on the CPU. I’m convinced that the solution is to use an external cooler and have had for some time:
https://www.amazon.com/Alphacool-Eiswand-External-Cooling-System/dp/B01MDQMS1J/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=A...

I bought the 6-fan in push/pull /radiator /pump/ reservoir unit separately and uprated to all Copper fittings: CPU block, connectors and a pass through plate that takes a PCIe slot where the quick release fittings connect the external lines and the power.
I’ve never set it up though. I’m thinking that in a year or so, I may build a Ryzen 9 3950X (16C@3.5/ 4.7Ghz) Quadro RTX 4000 system as the single-thread performance is so astounding good over 16-cores- Passmark = 3005. The 3950X is known to need very strong cooling.

I think it would not be too difficult to build an external cooler along these lines using marine plywood and stock parts.

BambiBoomZ
 
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That's sad to see that a community of overclocking enthusiasts would ban you for sharing information.
It's sad when any community behaves like this. I've been banned from ipcamtalk by the founder for starting a discussion about how to potentially use existing coax to form a 10base-2 network, and I've been banned from majorgeeks because the owner insisted that an inkjet printer is better than a laser and kept fighting with me about it--there are total asshats that do own forums and still get away with being total asshats.
 
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@nathna Here are two cheaper, small tower cooler, alternatives to the Noctua's Retro mentioned:

120mm fan 4 heatpipe
92mm fan 6 heatpipe

I'd check online to see if it fits the socket, and then see if it would fit your tower. Tech yes city, and some Russian youtubers play with these coolers so the information may end up being on there. If you end up with one, and they fit you'll want to replace the fans as they don't move a lot of air and bottleneck the cooler's performance. If possible power the cpu fan with a molex connector as in some cases that helps take a bit of strain off the VRM and assists with overclocking (or so I've heard). I don't have personal experience with these coolers and your Dell so you'll have to research compatibility yourself.

Here are some heatsinks that could possibly be cut and mounted to the VRM and have a fan atop them. If such is too much work just slapping a 40-60mm fan atop the naked VRMs should help overclocking as well as extend their lifetime.

SSD heatsink that you can cut to size
Same but bigger fins
Generic 8mm heatsinks

I wish you the best in your adventures! Remember if you can get SETFSB to work on your rig each+1mhz to fsb will mean +40mhz to the cpu at boost. Even if you're only able to get +3mhz FSB stable it adds up at the higher multipliers.
 
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Check out the link to the HP forum. Those guys have been using XTU to overclock your CPU in the Z420 workstation. HP also had a water cooler for that socket. Realize that we do engage in some speculation in this thread so the water cooler will be at you own risk. It has 5 wires, all black and IDK what does what.
HWbot is tied in with XTU and saves and shares profiles there. But cooling is a big part of going forward from here.
Dell uses powerful fans but the PWM profile is too little too late for overclocking.
Im not the most familiar with TS and XTU but it seems like 4.3ghz is the max for xtu any number higher is ignored and it just facilitates the 4.3. Do you think that with cooler speeds it could go over 4.3? With the fans cranked up it does not go over 50-54 while under full load.
 
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Im not the most familiar with TS and XTU but it seems like 4.3ghz is the max for xtu any number higher is ignored and it just facilitates the 4.3. Do you think that with cooler speeds it could go over 4.3? With the fans cranked up it does not go over 50-54 while under full load.

It may be a TDP limit you're hitting. TS can be used to raise TDP/current limits. Lets try that first before proceeding to cooling modifications and BLCK overclocking. If you don't know how to do such @Retrorockit and/or @unclewebb should be able to help you out.
 
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Yes there are limits to be raised. And in XTU it seems you can add Voltage directly. But you are the first one to try this System here. The ones at Userbenchmark are unknown to us. If you haven't raised the TDP limit and the TDC limit then it's hitting 130W and that's it. Your overclock is 4.3 and that's a little more than most others are getting. For gaming it may be worthwhile to just raise 2 cores and see if it goes faster. Most games are still single thread.
120mm coolers usuallly don't fit in the Delll workstations. The Ram slots being close in make that size fan just about impossible. If you join at HWBot in the XTU forum you can access other peoples XTU settings. The 92mm fan is a compromise but the 80mm fans make more noise than airflow. HWBot and Intel worked together to develop XTU.
if you get a 92mm heatsink that fits the narrow ILM here is a 92mm fan for it.
Nidec 92x38mm 132cfm fan. Just add 1.8A. 12V. It must be pulling through the heatsink, but no PWM wire needed.
The Noctua fans are 40cfm each. and blowing in the same direction they don't add up. The 2nd one is mostly a pinwheel.
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@nathna - Did you try enabling hyper threading yet?
I can raise the multiplier in ts to however high i set it in xtu.
You have to be careful when using ThrottleStop and Intel XTU at the same time. Both programs are trying to control your CPU. I would suggest only using Intel XTU and see how far you can get with it. After that, exit Intel XTU and then start ThrottleStop and see if it can get you any further. It is not wrong to run both programs at the same time but since you are not familiar with either program, it would be best to run them individually.

When using the Set Multiplier feature in ThrottleStop, SpeedStep has to be enabled. When SpeedStep is not enabled, the CPU will ignore any Set Multiplier changes.

The TPL button in ThrottleStop should show you what power limits your CPU are using. When ThrottleStop and Intel XTU are running at the same time, the power limits that you have set in ThrottleStop will overwrite the power limits that you have set in Intel XTU. If you are going to be using ThrottleStop, post a screenshot of the TPL window.
raised the TDP limit and the TDC limit
The 1660v2 is a different animal compared to the previous Xeon X58 CPUs. Some ThrottleStop settings that applied to the first gen Xeons do not apply to the v2 processors.

At the moment I am thinking that either ThrottleStop running at the same time as XTU was interfering with the CPU going beyond the 43 multiplier or it might take a combination of these programs to go beyond 43. I think in the ThrottleStop TPL window there is an adjustment for additional turbo voltage which might help out. The X58 CPUs were limited due to lack of voltage. There should be no limit here.
 
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XTU has a track record with these CPUs in HP workstations. I would go to HWBot and watch the tutorials there. Definitely not trying to chase you away. We're all very interested in this project. This would be OT in the HP forum, but not at HWBot. It looks like XTU is capable of doing this, but it's going to protect you from yourself while doing it.
At the unlocked Xeon forum there is a mention of the e5-1620 having a 43 multiplier limit.
So some CPUs seem to have this. But keep trying and see what happens. I'm seeing that CPU with higher multis at CPUZ so carry on.
 
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Hello comrades. I've got xeon e5 2650 v2(ivy bridge), and i try undervolt it using throtle stop, but voltage grayed out. What kind command should i sent to which MSR, or how can do undervolt using throtle stop?
 

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i try undervolt it using throtlestop
Software under volting was not possible until the 4th Gen Haswell CPUs were released. You will not be able to under volt your E5-2650v2. You might be able to overclock it using Intel XTU.

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Thank you, comrade! But, Why? Is cpu obey eist? How technicaly voltage changing with freqency change in eist? Is any way to gave right vid\freq tables to a v2 cpu?
 
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Yes there are limits to be raised. And in XTU it seems you can add Voltage directly. But you are the first one to try this System here. The ones at Userbenchmark are unknown to us. If you haven't raised the TDP limit and the TDC limit then it's hitting 130W and that's it. Your overclock is 4.3 and that's a little more than most others are getting. For gaming it may be worthwhile to just raise 2 cores and see if it goes faster. Most games are still single thread.
120mm coolers usuallly don't fit in the Delll workstations. The Ram slots being close in make that size fan just about impossible. If you join at HWBot in the XTU forum you can access other peoples XTU settings. The 92mm fan is a compromise but the 80mm fans make more noise than airflow. HWBot and Intel worked together to develop XTU.
if you get a 92mm heatsink that fits the narrow ILM here is a 92mm fan for it.
Nidec 92x38mm 132cfm fan. Just add 1.8A. 12V. It must be pulling through the heatsink, but no PWM wire needed.
The Noctua fans are 40cfm each. and blowing in the same direction they don't add up. The 2nd one is mostly a pinwheel.
M35105-58

Nidec 92x38mm 132cfm fan. Just add 1.8A. 12V.

For 90 mm category this is the most effective CPU Fan both from cooling as well as acoustic purpose. Best CPU fan if one do not have space for more than 90 mm fans.
 

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Is throtle stop can change voltage on sandy bridge / ivy bridge notebook cpu, or it just useless aganist it?

Is any opensource software for linux/mac etc?
 

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@Ars - There is no software available to change the voltage on Sandy or Ivy Bridge notebooks. No Windows software, no Mac software, no Linux software.

Software under volting was not possible until the 4th Gen Haswell CPUs were released.
This is when Intel added an integrated voltage regulator to their CPUs. This was the start of undervolting for the Core i CPUs. Nothing for Core i before this.
 
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How internal voltage change due eist works on pre haswell? From what cpu get volages for lower p-states?
 
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I came across this cooler that MIGHT be able to fit in a T3610. You would have to make your own narrow ILM bracket and maybe take the MB out to bolt it down. Do your own measuring. I don't have one of these computers. Also if you own one of these it might be worth trying to seeing which RAM slots can be left empty and still have 4 channel RAM.
Maybe a small allen wrench can be snaked down in there to tighten button head screws? You would have to have the cooler in your hands to try this.
And this.
 
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I came across this cooler that MIGHT be able to fit in a T3610. You would have to make your own narrow ILM bracket and maybe take the MB out to bolt it down. Do your own measuring. I don't have one of these computers. Also if you own one of these it might be worth trying to seeing which RAM slots can be left empty and still have 4 channel RAM.
Maybe a small allen wrench can be snaked down in there to tighten button head screws? You would have to have the cooler in your hands to try this.
And this.
Looks like it'll fit and the measurements say it should. There's always the "if" though.

I'd go with the bequiet and take out the middle fan. Just me though..
 
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I'd go with the bequiet and take out the middle fan. Just me though..
I just noticed that the AMD pattern resembled the Narrow ILM LGA2011, and when I searched it I came up with that somewhat universal bracket kit. If I owned a T3610 I would have one in my tool box.
 
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