AMD Releases the Radeon Adrenalin Edition 20.2.2 Drivers

[fullinfusion]

Will the drivers be as problematic?

Sadly, if so, yeah, pass.

It's absurd the number of things I've had to fix myself. Case in point: I pointed out the fast sync issue and even identified why it is happening (certain navi spinning and/or bios revisions don't support the FW_DSTATE Power management flag) like, a month ago. It's written here in one of the 5700 XT threads. AMD is just now acknowledging it's an issue, and their fix? To just turn the thing off? That's laughable. *I* literally did better than that with a simple softpowerplay table.

They need to try better. I'm loading these, but hopefully they won't bite me.

Pretty bold statement you have there froggy..

Want to put your talent to work in Vanguard?

PM me, or post here and I'll be sure you get in.

 

[R-T-B]

Pretty bold statement you have there froggy..

Want to put your talent to work in Vanguard?

PM me, or post here and I'll be sure you get in.

I don't make it lightly. I did my homework. It seems to be fixed in later bios revisions, but you still get odd screen flicker, so it isn't perfect. Could be related to the handover when near the top of the freesync range.

The soft powerplay table I made is a kludge, but it works. It just turns that PM flag off via a mask.

I appreciate the offer but I am already way too busy as is (I work as a security consultant now and I always have something to do) and probably should stop messing with my gpu. If things change though, I will let you know. It does sound fun.

 

[ARF]

This all depends on the games used for testing. DMC5 and BFV are heavily optimized on AMD cards, for example.

This is why I prefer purchasing video cards based on what games I plan to play or what engines they are/will be using instead of an overall/relative performance chart.

Yes, it depends on the games mix itself, too.

- games mix;
- PCIe 4.0 (gives 2-3% performance improvement on its own);
- Windows 1909 all updates installed;
- Radeon Software (latest WHQL preferably), settings there should be for maximum performance, should be tested for maximum performance;
- latest chipsets drivers (very important);
- appropriate Windows power plan.

 

[Cheeseball]

- PCIe 4.0 (gives 2-3% performance improvement on its own);

Yeah, I agree with everything you wrote except this. I would say 1% or less.

This is waaaaaay more noticeable with the 5500 XT 4 GB because it would rely on system RAM once the VRAM is saturated, so the PCI-E 4.0 speeds would make sense in this situation.

 

[ARF]

Yeah, I agree with everything you wrote except this. I would say 1% or less.

This is waaaaaay more noticeable with the 5500 XT 4 GB because it would rely on system RAM once the VRAM is saturated, so the PCI-E 4.0 speeds would make sense in this situation.

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[springs113]

Depends really on use case and software environtment it seems. I haven't had a problem with my new RX 5600 XT in the first 3 weeks, but then I had two black screen crashes basically on idle within 4 days.
Due to work related stuff I had to open up Chrome along side Firefox with hw acceleration enabled and after 2-3 minutes swapping tabs on Chrome I had a black screen crash and the computer restarded after a couple of seconds just like a BSOD.

Then had the same thing happen when I had Discord open and just did a right click on my Steam tray icon, menu still came up. But right after that it hardlocked the PC. After that I disabled hardware acceleration in Chrome, FF, Discord, even Steam. Even uninstalled f.lux thinking there might be some compatibility problems too.

Now with the new drivers I turned everything back on again, bar reinstalling f.lux. Will report back if I run into problems again.

You're right because my wife's Vega 64 system was fine. Three only black screen was during initial installation which is common with any driver install.

 

[Cheeseball]

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The averages for the other games seem to fall into the 1% or less margin of error, however Fortnite? How did they benchmark this? It doesn't have a benchmark tool, so joining matches are always going to be different since its a multiplayer.

 

[Space Lynx]

Err, try out those games first before concluding that OpenGL in the driver is broken. The OpenGL renderer for Doom (2016) hasn't been updated for a while. id concentrated on improving Vulkan since thats solely used for id Tech 6 (Wolfenstein II, Youngblood, Saber3D engine) games now.

I play a lot of old games that use opengl though and have no Vulkan alternative... so if AMD can't fix it... then I have to roll Nvidia. cause i enjoy my old games still :/

 

[Cheeseball]

I play a lot of old games that use opengl though and have no Vulkan alternative... so if AMD can't fix it... then I have to roll Nvidia. cause i enjoy my old games still :/

Okay, so OpenGL performance on Windows may be shot since the latest version of X-Plane 11 (with an actively developed OpenGL renderer) is pretty bad. The same game on GNU/Linux though seems to be excellent so it is the drivers at this point.

 

[fullinfusion]

I don't make it lightly. I did my homework. It seems to be fixed in later bios revisions, but you still get odd screen flicker, so it isn't perfect. Could be related to the handover when near the top of the freesync range.

The soft powerplay table I made is a kludge, but it works. It just turns that PM flag off via a mask.

I appreciate the offer but I am already way too busy as is (I work as a security consultant now and I always have something to do) and probably should stop messing with my gpu. If things change though, I will let you know. It does sound fun.

No worries, you know how to reach myself and INSTG8R, FordGT90Concept, and AlienIsGOD . AMD is trolling the treads all over the web seeing what issues that are plaquing ppl. Honestly they are really trying to iron out these issues. I think mamma bear has turned up the fire under the RTG guys asses to get this stuff sorted out asap.

Also best to you on the job and hope it all works in your favor

 

[Space Lynx]

Okay, so OpenGL performance on Windows may be shot since the latest version of X-Plane 11 (with an actively developed OpenGL renderer) is pretty bad. The same game on GNU/Linux though seems to be excellent so it is the drivers at this point.

that was my original point, if the drivers aren't fixed by now after all this time, why should I trust them with big navi to be any better? makes more sense for me to play it safe, just get nvidia. not saying nvidia doesnt have issues, but they are much less in number and frequency, and tend to be fixed faster minus one or two specific things.

 

[PerfectWave]

All YouTube videos show the same results - RX 5700 XT is in line with RTX 2070 Super / RTX 2080.

I don't know why TPU's results are so low for the Radeon - can be anything - software settings, Windows version, drivers version too old, etc.

TPU use uslees game in benchmark that not even 10% of ppl play

 

[HD64G]

WTFtech seriously??

From TPU's own latest GPU performance summary charts:

5700XT 183%
2070Super 196%

So 13% difference is the same tier now I guess?

I think you just responded too quickly because to calculate % of diff between 2 performers you just divide the one's performance metrics with the other's. So, here you should divide 196/183 to get 1,07=7% difference.

 

[R-T-B]

No worries, you know how to reach myself and INSTG8R, FordGT90Concept, and AlienIsGOD . AMD is trolling the treads all over the web seeing what issues that are plaquing ppl. Honestly they are really trying to iron out these issues. I think mamma bear has turned up the fire under the RTG guys asses to get this stuff sorted out asap.

Also best to you on the job and hope it all works in your favor

Well I played my most crash prone game today, KSP, and said I'd "start work when it crashes."

It's still not crashed, so I'd better start work... but so far AMD is doing great at fixing things this release... and ruining my work ethic.

 

[Assimilator]

Honestly they are really trying to iron out these issues. I think mamma bear has turned up the fire under the RTG guys asses to get this stuff sorted out asap.

Then why haven't they fixed the multi-monitor power consumption yet?

 

[mechtech]

Then why haven't they fixed the multi-monitor power consumption yet?

While I don't disagree with you, and it should be looked at, would that be driver or vBIOS? It's a negligible issue, in that it just uses a few watts extra compared to the competition. I wish my clothes dryer used as much power as that.

Still on 19.1.1 with my RX480................

 

[Schmuckley]

What if the expected to launch soon Navi 21 turns out to be almost 100% faster than the RX 5700XT, thus obliterating everything including heavily overclocked RTX 2080 Ti ?

If it's bundled with a driver package like the current one where you can't opt out of all the garbage, hard pass.

 

[Nater]

It's almost Spring 2020 and you still can't play 2016 DOOM on a Navi gpu... ugh... I'm going nvidia next round sorry everyone. I tried to give them a chance but that is insane.

Are you kidding? I've played dozens of hours, no hiccups. Runs amazing.

 

[Dave65]

No black screens on either 5700 xt I have in two systems since last driver update.

 

[eidairaman1]

I don't make it lightly. I did my homework. It seems to be fixed in later bios revisions, but you still get odd screen flicker, so it isn't perfect. Could be related to the handover when near the top of the freesync range.

The soft powerplay table I made is a kludge, but it works. It just turns that PM flag off via a mask.

I appreciate the offer but I am already way too busy as is (I work as a security consultant now and I always have something to do) and probably should stop messing with my gpu. If things change though, I will let you know. It does sound fun.

Go for it, I'd join myself but im on a phone only right now

You're right because my wife's Vega 64 system was fine. Three only black screen was during initial installation which is common with any driver install.

Not worried about the screen flicker from installing, that is the driver calibration.

 

[R-T-B]

If it's bundled with a driver package like the current one where you can't opt out of all the garbage, hard pass.

You do realize it comes with handy turn-em-off buttons, right?

Oh, and they literally provide Radeon Pro version with none of that I guess if you really want...

 

[Schmuckley]

You do realize it comes with handy turn-em-off buttons, right?

Oh, and they literally provide Radeon Pro version with none of that I guess if you really want...

Link?

What gets turned off, you seeing it, or it running?

It literally doubled the amount of apps running on my comp at idle.

 

[R-T-B]

Link?

What gets turned off, you seeing it, or it running?

Not sure what exactly you are asking.

To get the Radeon Pro Drivers just claim you have a Radeon Pro equivalent card in driver selection. Say one of the W5000's and it will give you them for WIndows 7. They install fine. For some reason they only list them automatically for consumer cards on Windows 10.

This is where you turn the junk off, or so I tried. It may be running in the background, but it has no performance impact or net traffic so hell if I care.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It's almost Spring 2020 and you still can't play 2016 DOOM on a Navi gpu... ugh... I'm going nvidia next round sorry everyone. I tried to give them a chance but that is insane.

It will get fixed ("known issue") but it was scoped out of this release.

The Witcher 3 is older and AMD fixed an issue with it in this driver.

 

[Schmuckley]

Not sure what exactly you are asking.

To get the Radeon Pro Drivers just claim you have a Radeon Pro equivalent card in driver selection. Say one of the W5000's and it will give you them for WIndows 7. They install fine. For some reason they only list them automatically for consumer cards on Windows 10.

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This is where you turn the junk off, or so I tried. It may be running in the background, but it has no performance impact or net traffic so hell if I care.

Thx for the info, now screenshot your task manager.