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I set it to 3150MHz in the Ryzen master software and 0.875vcore, temps regularly hit 75C to 85C crunching and doesn't seem to matter so I'm guessing it's still possibly controlled by the bios more so.. I'm not so sure...

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I guess I need some more tweaking to see what I can and can't do with this CPU..... It for me is too high on the temps....

Just tried it again with out my profile set on it, straight to 84C....

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Obviously boosting over 4GHz but was dropping I think to try and get the CPU temp under wraps.... I think I'm going to have to have a delve into the bios and see what I can do :) If I can find the 65w profile that @thebluebumblebee mentioned, I'll give it a go :)
74C is high, but then again Your 3900x is on air,right?

ECO mode is in ryzen master. Once You set PBO on ENABLED You can choose it in software itself.
Doesnt seem to change anything for me.

Idk why does it even work this way.
I have PBO off and Core Performance Boost on Auto.
Everything else in my bios is pretty much stock right now.
Voltages etc on auto.
99% lets it upto 3.4Ghz@0.938V, while 100% lets it go till ~4.3@1.3-1.4V (basic AMD Ryzen Balanced plan)

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Been playing around and how about turn PBO and CPB off altogether?
@phill You will run at base speed 3.8Ghz, stock voltage and see where it gets You.
No need for power plans and other shenanigans :D
I might survive this summer after all!
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74C is high, but then again Your 3900x is on air,right?

ECO mode is in ryzen master. Once You set PBO on ENABLED You can choose it in software itself.
Doesnt seem to change anything for me.

Idk why does it even work this way.
I have PBO off and Core Performance Boost on Auto.
Everything else in my bios is pretty much stock right now.
Voltages etc on auto.
99% lets it upto 3.4Ghz@0.938V, while 100% lets it go till ~4.3@1.3-1.4V (basic AMD Ryzen Balanced plan)

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Been playing around and how about turn PBO and CPB off altogether?
@phill You will run at base speed 3.8Ghz, stock voltage and see where it gets You.
No need for power plans and other shenanigans :D
I might survive this summer after all!
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It sure is on air mate, it sucks!! :laugh:

I'm not sure how to use the Ryzen software as such, I've just gone full manual and still not got the best out of it I bet... It's just a warm CPU and under air cooling, not the best.. Which I can understand, so I can't wait to get a water block for it... By the way, which one did you go for??

My Ryzen Master software doesn't look right with triple screens... It's stretched and won't go any smaller, which is somewhat frustrating to say the least!!

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If I only have the one screen setup, it works fine, can make it bigger smaller, all sorts but not in the triple mode lol Ugh....

If I ever get chance to look at it and find out more about it, I'll let you know :D
 
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It sure is on air mate, it sucks!! :laugh:

I'm not sure how to use the Ryzen software as such, I've just gone full manual and still not got the best out of it I bet... It's just a warm CPU and under air cooling, not the best.. Which I can understand, so I can't wait to get a water block for it... By the way, which one did you go for??

My Ryzen Master software doesn't look right with triple screens... It's stretched and won't go any smaller, which is somewhat frustrating to say the least!!

View attachment 154537

If I only have the one screen setup, it works fine, can make it bigger smaller, all sorts but not in the triple mode lol Ugh....

If I ever get chance to look at it and find out more about it, I'll let you know :D
I use EK Supremacy EVO, part of ek perfomance kit 360.

Seems Your PBO setting in bios is either auto or disabled.
I dont like Ryzen Master, I had issues with it even on dual monitors :roll:
I had to switch in Windows for single screen mode to start the software otherwise it would bug out.

Anyway its for testing, not for actual long term OC, isnt it.
 

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I use EK Supremacy EVO, part of ek perfomance kit 360.

Seems Your PBO setting in bios is either auto or disabled.
I dont like Ryzen Master, I had issues with it even on dual monitors :roll:
I had to switch in Windows for single screen mode to start the software otherwise it would bug out.

Anyway its for testing, not for actual long term OC, isnt it.
Well, I'm going to need to get something, because air cooling sucks :laugh: But.. That said, in the bios I was setting the vcore to 1.35v (I think, might have been 1.30v :laugh: :) but I've just lowered it down to 1.20vcore and well I think a pic would describe it better....

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Slightly better than 80 to 85C I think :) That said, I'm going to see if I can knock it down a little further, maybe 1.10 to 1.15vcore and then see what sort of boost speeds I'd get. The temps above are after 10 to 15 minutes crunching, so I think that's a definite improvement over what I had previously..

I'm also going to take a look and see where I can find that CPU Block. Water cooling has become massively expensive over the last few years... I'm kinda curious what rad to put with it... I believe my case will fit in 3 or 4 560mm rads, so I'd like to at least put one in for the CPU :laugh:
 
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Well, I'm going to need to get something, because air cooling sucks :laugh: But.. That said, in the bios I was setting the vcore to 1.35v (I think, might have been 1.30v :lol:) but I've just lowered it down to 1.20vcore and well I think a pic would describe it better....

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Slightly better than 80 to 85C I think :) That said, I'm going to see if I can knock it down a little further, maybe 1.10 to 1.15vcore and then see what sort of boost speeds I'd get. The temps above are after 10 to 15 minutes crunching, so I think that's a definite improvement over what I had previously..

I'm also going to take a look and see where I can find that CPU Block. Water cooling has become massively expensive over the last few years... I'm kinda curious what rad to put with it... I believe my case will fit in 3 or 4 560mm rads, so I'd like to at least put one in for the CPU :laugh:
3 or 4 560mm rads? Are we talking server rack? :D :D :D
On the picture, cpuz reports 1.3V though, so its like core voltage value being a guideline and then cpu boost and takes more? confusing.

When I crunch 32 tasks, doesn't matter the voltage setting in bios, it will do all core 3.9 at 0.9~1.0V and thats it!

when it comes to cpu blocks there are also those corsair hydro ones, maybe worth a look?
 

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3 or 4 560mm rads? Are we talking server rack? :D :D :D
On the picture, cpuz reports 1.3V though, so its like core voltage value being a guideline and then cpu boost and takes more? confusing.

When I crunch 32 tasks, doesn't matter the voltage setting in bios, it will do all core 3.9 at 0.9~1.0V and thats it!

when it comes to cpu blocks there are also those corsair hydro ones, maybe worth a look?
No server rack sir, just a nice sized PC case... Like this :D

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That a 4 year old Isabelle in the case :D :D

So, yes, 3 or 4 560mm rads :) I was looking at parts last night and boy are they expensive these days!! But, we'll see what we can do :) I'll grab a screen shot again, as lowered it back again this morning and it's just very impressive :) The Ryzen's might get a bad ish rep for not overclocking very well, but under volt them and boosh!! They are monsters!! :)

Oh and here's for another small update with the temps/performance :)

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No Ryzen Master needed anymore :)

The temps on the CPU have raised a little but that's because of the two 1080 Ti's pumping some heat near the heatsink of the CPU... With a water block installed, I'm very certain that the temps wouldn't rise up like they do on air :) But, being myself, I'll obviously have to test :D :D

Now if only I could get the Crosshair 8 to do 100.1 for the Bus speed and I'd be sooooo much happier... It seems I can only do 100 or 101 on the bus speed for some reason where as all the previous versions of the board, more so 6 and 7, they allow the 0. changes... I'm unsure why this one wouldn't? @Lorec does yours do the same??

Going to do some further testing with less vcore soon :) I need to grab a few screen shots inbetween (yes I'm that OCD ish :laugh: :slap: )
 
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if You had water cooling with a gpu blocks ,that'd make it worse actually :laugh: I feel I would have better temps ifit wasnt for my 1080ti on the same loop!
I dont remeber which board You had but on C8H You have to disable SB Clock Spread Spectrum in Tweakers Paradise.
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Stays 100Mhz, I have OCD too :D:D:D:laugh:

How about turning that Core Precision Boost off? Im curious of Your temps on base clock only while crunching, mate ;)
 

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if You had water cooling with a gpu blocks ,that'd make it worse actually :laugh: I feel I would have better temps ifit wasnt for my 1080ti on the same loop!
I dont remeber which board You had but on C8H You have to disable SB Clock Spread Spectrum in Tweakers Paradise.
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Stays 100Mhz, I have OCD too :D:D:D:laugh:

How about turning that Core Precision Boost off? Im curious of Your temps on base clock only while crunching, mate ;)
I'll have a check on that my good sir, but I don't think that worked... I still couldn't put in 100.1 for example, just 100 or 101.. Reason for it is that, it's not 3.50GHz for me... :laugh: :roll:

What bios version do you run @Lorec ?? I'll grab a pic of mine.. (I swear there's a way to screenshot the bios but damned if I can remember!! :laugh:)

Well it's been an interesting evening... Loads of testing and been very rewarding for the results... Bios version I had installed was 0605, so a rather old one.. Now installed 1201 as a mate had it, so worked for me :D

Can now change the bus speed without any issues, the only issue is if you do that is that it locks the multiplier to whatever you set it at... Which is a little of a pain but otherwise, I might have a play with that at some point... But, I think before I say too much more, here's a couple screen shots, @Lorec I think you might be impressed...

Auto Vcore Setting - 270 to 280w power draw, 90C+ load temps in around 1 minute of run time with WCG. Speeds locked around the 4GHz ish speed, I don't believe they dropped much even at that temp....

11-05-20 3900X Vcore Test - Auto v.PNG


So a touch warm there. Cooling is still only air, nothing has changed in that regard... So now, as that was the worst case, here's the best -

VCore set to 0.900v, 145w to 155w power draw, 49Cmax temp after 20 minutes plus load time. CPU speeds seemed to hit 4.20GHz and just sit there...

11-05-20 3900X Vcore Test - 0.90v 2.PNG


I thought that didn't look too bad?? Such a difference as well...
However since I've updated the bios, I couldn't get to boot into Windows at 0.9vcore set in the bios, I've had to use at least 1.00vcore for the moment... So temps have increased a little (up to around 52/53C under full load) and the power draw also, (160w to 170w) but still the same 4.20GHz clock speed...

11-05-20 3900X Vcore Test - 1.00v After bios update 1201.PNG


For some reason @Lorec when setting it to 1.00vcore and 38x multi, it gave me this....

11-05-20 3900X Vcore Test - 1.00v 38x 1.PNG


Bit higher temp at 56C under load and 15 minutes or so later, I don't believe the power draw did increase that much but... I've set it to run however and just left it for now. I need to sort out the memory timings, they are terrible so that's going to be the next fun task :D

I'm so impressed with this CPU it's unreal :) Now I'd just love to grab a custom loop and that 3950X and I'll be away with the fairies :D :laugh: :D (Like I ain't already??!! Ed......)
 
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I'll have a check on that my good sir, but I don't think that worked... I still couldn't put in 100.1 for example, just 100 or 101.. Reason for it is that, it's not 3.50GHz for me... :laugh: :roll:

What bios version do you run @Lorec ?? I'll grab a pic of mine.. (I swear there's a way to screenshot the bios but damned if I can remember!! :laugh:)

Well it's been an interesting evening... Loads of testing and been very rewarding for the results... Bios version I had installed was 0605, so a rather old one.. Now installed 1201 as a mate had it, so worked for me :D

Can now change the bus speed without any issues, the only issue is if you do that is that it locks the multiplier to whatever you set it at... Which is a little of a pain but otherwise, I might have a play with that at some point... But, I think before I say too much more, here's a couple screen shots, @Lorec I think you might be impressed...

Auto Vcore Setting - 270 to 280w power draw, 90C+ load temps in around 1 minute of run time with WCG. Speeds locked around the 4GHz ish speed, I don't believe they dropped much even at that temp....

View attachment 154828

So a touch warm there. Cooling is still only air, nothing has changed in that regard... So now, as that was the worst case, here's the best -

VCore set to 0.900v, 145w to 155w power draw, 49Cmax temp after 20 minutes plus load time. CPU speeds seemed to hit 4.20GHz and just sit there...

View attachment 154829

I thought that didn't look too bad?? Such a difference as well...
However since I've updated the bios, I couldn't get to boot into Windows at 0.9vcore set in the bios, I've had to use at least 1.00vcore for the moment... So temps have increased a little (up to around 52/53C under full load) and the power draw also, (160w to 170w) but still the same 4.20GHz clock speed...

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For some reason @Lorec when setting it to 1.00vcore and 38x multi, it gave me this....

View attachment 154831

Bit higher temp at 56C under load and 15 minutes or so later, I don't believe the power draw did increase that much but... I've set it to run however and just left it for now. I need to sort out the memory timings, they are terrible so that's going to be the next fun task

I'm so impressed with this CPU it's unreal :) Now I'd just love to grab a custom loop and that 3950X and I'll be away with the fairies :D :laugh: :D (Like I ain't already??!! Ed......)
Incredible temps! All core 4.2 crunching with 53C?o_O
Colour me impressed :D :D :D
How did You managed all this on air??
Im on latest 1302.
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Actually 1201 iproved temps quite a lot already.
Anyhow great results,@phill :D
 
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Incredible temps! All core 4.2 crunching with 53C?o_O
Colour me impressed :D :D :D
How did You managed all this on air??
Im on latest 1302.
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Actually 1201 iproved temps quite a lot already.
Anyhow great results,@phill :D
@phill @Lorec Notice the 70.8 W CPU power. There is no way that 4.2 GHz, 70.8 W and 72 degree C is happening at the same time at high load.
 

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@Lorec

I wish I knew but I can't wait to try it out on water when I can finally get my water cooling hardware through :D :D I especially love the drop in power consumption as well :D 280w down to about 150 to 155w or so :)

@phill @Lorec Notice the 70.8 W CPU power. There is no way that 4.2 GHz, 70.8 W and 72 degree C is happening at the same time at high load.
There is indeed some voodoo of Ryzen going on there but that's what's being reported through anything I use for temps/CPU speeds... I've even had a check on with HWMonitor (I've attached some screen shots) just to show what is going on... Still, if it's saving me some pennies with the crunching, it might stay on a little longer :D :D

All core, 4.00GHz @ 1.00vcore bios
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All core, 4.10GHz @ 1.10vcore bios
CB R20 4.10Ghz.PNG

All core, 4.20GHz @ 1.15vcore bios
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All core, 1.00vcore bios -
CB R20 1.000v SC.PNG CB R20 1.000v MC.PNG CB R20 1.000v MC 2.PNG

Whatever my CPU is doing, from a mate, it's doing it rather well... I'd like to see if I could get this water cooled and report back to see what the deal is.... :)
 
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I just got a load on three rigs....race you to the first badge ;) I only got 18 pages....:D

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My internet connection has been acting funny, so I'm just getting them now.
 
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I don't have any yet, but it is on my list of projects...
 
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P.S. I have over 40 of them in one of my que's, on this i7 I am using now. There are more on each of my 2700 crunching rigs. The 2 i3's? I don't know, don't feel like Teamview-ing them right now. I figure they have what they have and will crunch them all the same. :)
 
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Sadly it is a Autodock project (Open Zika and SCC was Vina) so not great points on Linux/AMD.
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They certainly don't look like they are all that special sadly...

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But hey ho :D More points to be had and hopefully none of the issues with the FAH Client when it ran out of juice to send new projects out.... I wonder how many people have continued folding after they get their next electric bill?? ..... :D :D
 
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