Intel Core i7-10700K

[ToxicTaZ]

This seems like a hyperbolic statement to me. They would be DOA if they were an FX 9590 situation where they used tons of power, were mega hot and crucially were still far from competitive. The 10700K is reasonably cool, reasonably power efficient and has very competitive performance, beating the AMD equivalent handily in many cases. As I haven't bought a new Intel chip since 2014 I am tempted to pull the trigger on one of these, if/when they are in stock for a reasonable price, ie. not the current inflated price due to shortages.

Buying Intel 10th generation is a bad idea....

10th generation is extremely short-lived with 8 to 9 months life only.

Even if you could hold out until January 2021 (7 months from now) and pick up Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake with Willow Cove cores design update "25%" IPC Gain over 10th generation (SkyLake) architecture and 11th gen has PCIe 4.0 working! Your all around better off than buying garbage 10th generation.

The only thing that Intel 10th generation is good for is Intel will use 10th generation as their benchmarks for their future CPUs generations as a baseline for performance.

Example

Q1 2021
Willow Cove is 25% IPC Gain over 10th Gen... Rocket Lake (14nm++)

Q4 2021
Golden Cove is 50% IPC Gain over 10th Gen... Alder Lake (10nm++)

Q4 2022
Ocean Cove is over 80% IPC Gain over 10th Gen... Meteor Lake (7nm+)

And so on....

Major changes are coming soon....you're better off with 11th gen Rocket Lake only months away.

 

[Deleted member 187435]

I'm on Haswell which dates back to 2013 (or 2014 for 4790K). You can always wait longer for something better, ad infinitum.

I highly doubt Rocket Lake will have a true 25% or anywhere near it IPC gain over 10th gen. But even if it does: the Z490 boards support it anyway so I can just sell the 10700K and put an 11th gen CPU in the same system.

Intel IPC has barely improved by 25% over the last 7 years and you think it will go up by 25% in one fell swoop, and then again the next two times within a year of each other?

It's also swings and roundabouts: I might get more for my 4th gen parts now than I would in a year. Or the price of RAM might shoot up in a year due to shortages or whatever - it is currently relatively cheap.

 

[Vader]

I can get a good performing Z490 for $150, right noe. How much can you get an X570 for?

Oh and if you want to talk B450, I can get an H470 for $110 and a B460 for $80.

If anything, the high end Intel motherboards are cheaper.

Clearly my point is applicable to both cpu makers. No need to pull this amd vs intel bs.

 

[ToxicTaZ]

I'm on Haswell which dates back to 2013 (or 2014 for 4790K). You can always wait longer for something better, ad infinitum.

I highly doubt Rocket Lake will have a true 25% or anywhere near it IPC gain over 10th gen. But even if it does: the Z490 boards support it anyway so I can just sell the 10700K and put an 11th gen CPU in the same system.

Intel IPC has barely improved by 25% over the last 7 years and you think it will go up by 25% in one fell swoop, and then again the next two times within a year of each other?

It's also swings and roundabouts: I might get more for my 4th gen parts now than I would in a year. Or the price of RAM might shoot up in a year due to shortages or whatever - it is currently relatively cheap.

That's were your wrong.....

That's the hole point about any of those Cove cores updates is IPC Gain!

You're 10th Gen is still and the last of SkyLake architecture. Very short lived...

Intel first desktop Cove Cores update is 11th gen Rocket Lake with "Willow Cove" cores design...

Please research Willow Cove 25% IPC Gain!

2021 Finally Intel starting to do there big push back......with most important thing is start fixing IPC and then Power next.... With extreme Ultra low power big.Little architecture and on 10nm++ and 7nm+ in 2022.

I gave you guys what's coming... Do your research before doubts about true IPC Gain telling others.

SkyLake is is officially done.... Now it's all about Cove cores design....

Get ready for the Intel storm.... The next 3 years is going to be very interesting...

 

[Deleted member 187435]

10th gen is ready today, I am on 4th gen. The fact something better is coming out in a year is moot, I can't use it today. It isn't like the value of the 10th gen chip will become worthless in a year and tbh even if it does I'm not that hard up that I'd lose sleep over it.

 

[ppn]

In fact you will lose sleep if you don't buy it. Trust me I have tried this. I mean imagine the torture and the wait for years until DDR5-4800-6400.

Willow Cove with DDR4 is like Coffeelake with DDR3. It would work but the memory would waste 20-30% of the CPU time just skipping over cycles to get the data doing nothing.

DDR5 is like a quad channel upgrade. Add L3 and Big Core design that is mostly where 80% IPC comes from.

 

[coozie78]

10th gen is ready today, I am on 4th gen. The fact something better is coming out in a year is moot, I can't use it today. It isn't like the value of the 10th gen chip will become worthless in a year and tbh even if it does I'm not that hard up that I'd lose sleep over it.

At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs: Looks like your overall system is pretty well balanced, unless you're seeing significant and consistent CPU related slowdowns swapping to the current CPU gen won't do much, the 75Hz 1080 display is far more likely to be a restriction than the CPU or GPU.

That's were your wrong.....

That's the hole point about any of those Cove cores updates is IPC Gain!

You're 10th Gen is still and the last of SkyLake architecture. Very short lived...

Intel first desktop Cove Cores update is 11th gen Rocket Lake with "Willow Cove" cores design...

Please research Willow Cove 25% IPC Gain!

2021 Finally Intel starting to do there big push back......with most important thing is start fixing IPC and then Power next.... With extreme Ultra low power big.Little architecture and on 10nm++ and 7nm+ in 2022.

I gave you guys what's coming... Do your research before doubts about true IPC Gain telling others.

SkyLake is is officially done.... Now it's all about Cove cores design....

Get ready for the Intel storm.... The next 3 years is going to be very interesting...

Who really cares about the next, next gen? We can't purchase them, they haven't been reviewed or benchmarked, and their performance gains are just claims until they are.

 

[Deleted member 187435]

At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs: Looks like your overall system is pretty well balanced, unless you're seeing significant and consistent CPU related slowdowns swapping to the current CPU gen won't do much, the 75Hz 1080 display is far more likely to be a restriction than the CPU or GPU.

You're right, my system feels fast and the games I play (at 1080p60 in fact because it better ensures minimums don't drop below my refresh rate) are good.

I do some video encoding which is pretty slow and would benefit a lot from an upgrade, probably be 100%+ faster. And I was planning to upgrade the GPU too down the line. Also get a 1440p monitor.

We'll see. Maybe a 10700F would be better than the K in terms of bang for buck. As you can get most of the K performance from upping the power limit, and I don't need the iGPU. Prices currently are a bit silly though.

 

[heflys20]

Yep, I got a good run on this 4670k. I'm likely upgrading to 3700x and calling it day. Should be fine for another 3-4 years.

 

[coozie78]

You're right, my system feels fast and the games I play (at 1080p60 in fact because it better ensures minimums don't drop below my refresh rate) are good.

I do some video encoding which is pretty slow and would benefit a lot from an upgrade, probably be 100%+ faster. And I was planning to upgrade the GPU too down the line. Also get a 1440p monitor.

We'll see. Maybe a 10700F would be better than the K in terms of bang for buck. As you can get most of the K performance from upping the power limit, and I don't need the iGPU. Prices currently are a bit silly though.

As always, mate, it's horses for courses and it's your decision but if you want/need faster video encoding well, the i7 will definitely do that and, of course you'll have a far stronger platform to support those future upgrades.
From the reviews it looks like the ' F ' chip is the way to go.
Good luck and, good hunting.

 

[Vayra86]

When I see that OC temp I just can't resist

Language barrier be damned, I think you'll get the gist

 

[Anymal]

Kinda agree with GN, while 10300 doing great for office PC, 10600K is best bang for buck, 10900K for bragging rights, these 10700K serves no purposes.

Havent you read the conclusion? It fulfills the void in price gap between 3700x and 3900x. JFC, FFS!

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Great review as always! Just picked this chip up and a asus maximus z490. Should be here in a few days. Time for the 6700k to retire from my gaming rig and replace my 4790k HTPC.