Advice for 32gb 3600 kit

MaurizioC · Oct 13, 2020

I would like to buy a 32gb 3600mhz kit for my 3700x to replace my 32gb 3200mhz.

My kit is currently running on x470 chipset at cl16-18-18-36 1t at 3200 mhz and it is full stable.

Can you advice me a 3600 32gb kit with similar timings and dual rank?

I have found this one F4-3600C16D-32GVKC
.

Is it good? I do not perform overclock and fo not like rgb

Thank you

Maurizio

8BitZ80 · Oct 13, 2020

I've been running the CL18 version of the same kit and it's great. Just as solid and trouble-free as my old Corsair Vengeance Pro ram. I just set the XMP profile and don't change any other settings.

kapone32 · Oct 14, 2020

MaurizioC said:
I would like to buy a 32gb 3600mhz kit for my 3700x to replace my 32gb 3200mhz.

My kit is currently running on x470 chipset at cl16-18-18-36 1t at 3200 mhz and it is full stable.

Can you advice me a 3600 32gb kit with similar timings and dual rank?

I have found this one F4-3600C16D-32GVKC
.

Is it good? I do not perform overclock and fo not like rgb

Thank you

Maurizio

I have 32 GB DDR 3600 18 and it runs fine.

timta2 · Oct 14, 2020

Upgrading to faster memory is usually a waste of money, in my experience.

MaurizioC · Oct 14, 2020

PooPipeBoy said:
I've been running the CL18 version of the same kit and it's great. Just as solid and trouble-free as my old Corsair Vengeance Pro ram. I just set the XMP profile and don't change any other settings.

i would like something with cl 16

timta2 said:
Upgrading to faster memory is usually a waste of money, in my experience.

are you sure? i think i could receive some more fps into gaming/h265 encoding or folding

Arjai · Oct 14, 2020

Looks good to me! If you want it, get it. https://www.gskill.com/qvl/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-Qvl

That Prime x470 board is not on the list but, I don't see any reason for it not to. I believe XMP 2 is backwards compatible to XMP 1, which I think your MB is.

That is the only thing that "might" be an issue, if at all.

8BitZ80 · Oct 14, 2020

MaurizioC said:
i would like something with cl 16

I did not tell you to get the CL18 kit instead. You asked if the G.Skill kit is good, and I confirmed that it is good. The CAS latency makes no difference.

Space Lynx · Oct 14, 2020

PooPipeBoy said:
I've been running the CL18 version of the same kit and it's great. Just as solid and trouble-free as my old Corsair Vengeance Pro ram. I just set the XMP profile and don't change any other settings.

View attachment 171715

what program is that to measure latency? where can i download it?

8BitZ80 · Oct 14, 2020

lynx29 said:
what program is that to measure latency? where can i download it?

That's the Userbenchmark website, you can download and run the system benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/

Space Lynx · Oct 14, 2020

PooPipeBoy said:
That's the Userbenchmark website, you can download and run the system benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/

ty going to compare the scores from that program to aida64 latency checker and see if they are similar scores

Zach_01 · Oct 14, 2020

MaurizioC said:
are you sure? i think i could receive some more fps into gaming/h265 encoding or folding

How much more FPS do you need? Because going from a 3200MHz kit to a 3600MHz one you will gain no more than 2~3%.
Is that worth the money?

The best thing to do is to tweak the sticks you have to squeeze whatever more they got to give you.
If you had sticks like 3000MHz then we could talk about it. But from 3200 to 3600 its not going to give you anything but marginal gains.

If you wanted like a 400~500$ 3600~3800MHz kit with super tight timings then you could see something better. But again even that is not worth it unless you dont care about the(any) cost. That I can understand.

I've done a lot of testing in my system with my sticks, from 3200MHz up to 3733MHz. I'm sure about this.

MaurizioC · Oct 14, 2020

how can I tune my sticks? the ryzen dram calculator seems complicated to me

Vya Domus · Oct 14, 2020

Definitely a waste of money and time.

Zach_01 · Oct 14, 2020

You dont have to use DRAM calc. We all can help you do that from experience on a ZEN2 platform.

If you like download ZenTimings and post a screenshot here

ZenTimings

ZenTimings is a simple and lightweight app for monitoring memory timings on Ryzen platform.

zentimings.protonrom.com

Like this:

And also download this

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Click READ button and select one stick

P4-630 · Oct 14, 2020

Zach_01 said:
And also download this
Thaiphoon Burner - Official Support Website

NoJuan999 · Oct 14, 2020

The link works fine for me:

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www.softnology.biz

http://www.softnology.biz/files/thphn163.zip

MaurizioC · Oct 14, 2020

Thank you for your help!

This is what I see

ZenTimings_Screenshot_26711224,5857349.png

P4-630 · Oct 14, 2020

NoJuan999 said:
The link works fine for me:

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www.softnology.biz

http://www.softnology.biz/files/thphn163.zip

Hmm, it doesn't work for me but I see it works for OP.

Zach_01 · Oct 14, 2020

Forgot to tell you... You are going to need DRAMcalc just for MEMbench it has inside for stability test. The Author 1usmus has done a great job for stressing the entire memory subsystem and that test can find errors where others pass clear, like TestMem5.

Just curious... How much was the cost of that 32GB LPX kit?

Ok, first thing to do is to raise speed to 3600 and see if it can take it as it is. No other change exept volts. Dont worry about raising RAM voltage. These chips can take 1.5+Volts (if cooled) with no problem.

Enter BIOS and select
1. DRAM multi: X36 (or speed select 3600MHz) I dont know the exact settings your BIOS has. It will be the one or the other.
2. Keep XMP/DOCP profile: ON
3. DRAM voltage: 1.4V

Save and exit. If it POST let it into Windows and open again ZenTimings to see whats what...
Post it here

8BitZ80 · Oct 14, 2020

Zach_01 said:
How much more FPS do you need? Because going from a 3200MHz kit to a 3600MHz one you will gain no more than 2~3%.
Is that worth the money?

The best thing to do is to tweak the sticks you have to squeeze whatever more they got to give you.
If you had sticks like 3000MHz then we could talk about it. But from 3200 to 3600 its not going to give you anything but marginal gains.

If you wanted like a 400~500$ 3600~3800MHz kit with super tight timings then you could see something better. But again even that is not worth it unless you dont care about the(any) cost. That I can understand.

I've done a lot of testing in my system with my sticks, from 3200MHz up to 3733MHz. I'm sure about this.

That's one of the issues with buying RAM. Chasing that last extra bit of performance with higher memory speeds and lower latency quickly turns into a fool's errand.

MaurizioC · Oct 14, 2020

Zach_01 said:
Forgot to tell you... You are going to need DRAMcalc just for MEMbench it has inside for stability test. The Author 1usmus has done a great job for stressing the entire memory subsystem and that test can find errors where others pass clear, like TestMem5.

Just curious... How much was the cost of that 32GB LPX kit?

Ok, first thing to do is to raise speed to 3600 and see if it can take it as it is. No other change exept volts. Dont worry about raising RAM voltage. These chips can take 1.5+Volts (if cooled) with no problem.

Enter BIOS and select
1. DRAM multi: X36 (or speed select 3600MHz) I dont know the exact settings your BIOS has. It will be the one or the other.
2. Keep XMP/DOCP profile: ON
3. DRAM voltage: 1.4V

Save and exit. If it POST let it into Windows and open again ZenTimings to see whats what...
Post it here

I will try. Can i try leaving the voltage at 1.35 or it will fail for sure?

The kit costed 148€ 1 year ago. Now it's 119€

ThrashZone · Oct 14, 2020

MaurizioC said:
I would like to buy a 32gb 3600mhz kit for my 3700x to replace my 32gb 3200mhz.

My kit is currently running on x470 chipset at cl16-18-18-36 1t at 3200 mhz and it is full stable.

Can you advice me a 3600 32gb kit with similar timings and dual rank?

I have found this one F4-3600C16D-32GVKC
.

Is it good? I do not perform overclock and fo not like rgb

Thank you

Maurizio

Hi,
Good kit
C16 is good for 3600 mine can do 4k mhz very easily
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel Z170 / Z270 / Z370 / X299 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-32GTZSW - Newegg.com
3200c16 on the other hand is not good it's very limited overclockers.

MaurizioC · Oct 14, 2020

Zach_01 said:
Forgot to tell you... You are going to need DRAMcalc just for MEMbench it has inside for stability test. The Author 1usmus has done a great job for stressing the entire memory subsystem and that test can find errors where others pass clear, like TestMem5.

Just curious... How much was the cost of that 32GB LPX kit?

Ok, first thing to do is to raise speed to 3600 and see if it can take it as it is. No other change exept volts. Dont worry about raising RAM voltage. These chips can take 1.5+Volts (if cooled) with no problem.

Enter BIOS and select
1. DRAM multi: X36 (or speed select 3600MHz) I dont know the exact settings your BIOS has. It will be the one or the other.
2. Keep XMP/DOCP profile: ON
3. DRAM voltage: 1.4V

Save and exit. If it POST let it into Windows and open again ZenTimings to see whats what...
Post it here

I set dram voltage at 1.4, left docp and tried setting 3600, 3400, 3333 and 3266. The latest is the only value the boots.

Not sure this is optimal...

ThrashZone · Oct 14, 2020

MaurizioC said:
I set dram voltage at 1.4, left docp and tried setting 3600, 3400, 3333 and 3266. The latest is the only value the boots.

Not sure this is optimal...

View attachment 171778

Hi,
Optimal for 3200c16 loose timing although 1.4v isn't it's rated for 1.35v

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 14, 2020

3600 C16 or 3200 C14 are best for Ryzen.

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