New Ryzen 3 build. Motherboard bios question

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 24, 2020

Pretty basic question.

When these new CPUs are out, since there's no new chipset for them. If you don't already have an X570 board do you have to pray to god you got a new one with bios for the new CPU, or get a Ryzen 3000 temporarily(then return it) to update BIOS before putting the new CPU in unless you have an Asus board with the BIOS Flashback function? Seems like a bit of a cluster for new AMD builds.

TheLostSwede · Oct 24, 2020

A lot of current boards can have the UEFI updated without a CPU in the board. There should be a button on the board that allows a specific USB port to be used to flash the BIOS chip.
So make sure you pick the right board and it won't be a problem as long as you have access to a computer on which you can download the latest UEFI and put it on a FAT32 formatted USB drive.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 24, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
A lot of current boards can have the UEFI updated without a CPU in the board. There should be a button on the board that allows a specific USB port to be used to flash the BIOS chip.
So make sure you pick the right board and it won't be a problem as long as you have access to a computer on which you can download the latest UEFI and put it on a FAT32 formatted USB drive.

So most boards now have the feature Asus does? That is good to know then.

SL2 · Oct 24, 2020

Also, the first BIOS for Ryzen 5000 has been out for two months. Given that AM4 is fairly popular, I think you'd have bad luck if you got a board that doesn't have the right BIOS from factory as I don't think they're staying on shelves for very long. Maybe look for info about Ryzen-5000-ready boards.

TheLostSwede · Oct 24, 2020

Mats said:
Also, the first BIOS for Ryzen 5000 has been out for two months. Given that AM4 is fairly popular, I think you'd have bad luck if you got a board that doesn't have the right BIOS from factory as I don't think they're staying on shelves for very long. Maybe look for info about Ryzen-5000-ready boards.

Not all board makers update their production UEFI though, so I wouldn't be money on that unless it's specifically noted on the box.

MxPhenom 216 said:
So most boards now have the feature Asus does? That is good to know then.

Most, I don't know, but a lot of boards has some or the other version of it. I guess the very cheapest boards don't, as there's a cost involved due to there being an MCU on the board that handles the flashing process.
Gigabyte calls it Q-Flash, MSI seems to call it Flash BIOS Button with Optmized ClearCMOS Function and ASRock simply BIOS Flashback Button.

There a spreadsheet online that covers all the features of the various boards that you might want to take a look at. Seems like ASRock doesn't have it on nearly as many boards as Asus, Gigabyte or MSI.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Zach_01 · Oct 24, 2020

Just look for "BIOS Flashback" button/function. A lot X570/B550 have it. Some of them have it on board and some on the back I/O panel.

TheLostSwede · Oct 25, 2020

Zach_01 said:
Just look for "BIOS Flashback" button/function. A lot X570/B550 have it. Some of them have it on board and some on the back I/O panel.

That only applies to Asus though, as I pointed out above, there are multiple different names for the feature.

Zach_01 · Oct 25, 2020

Yes you’re right, although I think some AsRocks do call it that.
Gigabyte named it “Q-Flash Plus”
MSI just BIOS Flash.

But on the spreadsheet you posted the related column is named as BIOS Flashback.

mxking035 · Oct 25, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
That only applies to Asus though, as I pointed out above, there are multiple different names for the feature.

It's the same in MSI x570 boards.

Zach_01 · Oct 25, 2020

mxking035 said:
It's the same in MSI x570 boards.

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We’re talking about naming... how each vendor calls it.

mxking035 · Oct 25, 2020

Zach_01 said:
We’re talking about naming... how each vendor calls it.

Ah ok

System Name	Ryzen Reflection
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Motherboard	Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master
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Storage	WD SN850 500GB (OS) \| Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Games_1) \| Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (Games_2)
Display(s)	Asus XG27AQM 240Hz G-Sync Fast-IPS \| Gigabyte M27Q-P 165Hz 1440P IPS \| Asus 24" IPS (portrait mode)
Case	Lian Li PC-011D XL \| Custom cables by Cablemodz
Audio Device(s)	FiiO K7 \| Sennheiser HD650 + Beyerdynamic FOX Mic
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850
Mouse	Razer Viper v2 Pro
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	Overlord Mk MLI
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory	32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s)	Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage	1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s)	Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case	Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Max
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v

System Name	Ryzen Reflection
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900x
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master
Cooling	2x EK PE360 \| TechN AM4 AMD Block Black \| EK Quantum Vector Trinity GPU Nickel + Plexi
Memory	Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 2x16GB B-Die 3600 @ 14-14-14-28-42-288-2T 1.45v
Video Card(s)	Zotac AMP HoloBlack RTX 3080Ti 12G \| 950mV 1950Mhz
Storage	WD SN850 500GB (OS) \| Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Games_1) \| Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (Games_2)
Display(s)	Asus XG27AQM 240Hz G-Sync Fast-IPS \| Gigabyte M27Q-P 165Hz 1440P IPS \| Asus 24" IPS (portrait mode)
Case	Lian Li PC-011D XL \| Custom cables by Cablemodz
Audio Device(s)	FiiO K7 \| Sennheiser HD650 + Beyerdynamic FOX Mic
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850
Mouse	Razer Viper v2 Pro
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	Overlord Mk MLI
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory	32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s)	Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage	1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s)	Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case	Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Max
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v

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Storage	Samsung NVMe: 980Pro 1TB(OS 2022), 970Pro 512GB(2019) / SATA-III: 850Pro 1TB(2015) 860Evo 1TB(2020)
Display(s)	Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34" QD-OLED curved (1800R), 3440x1440 144Hz (max 175Hz) HDR1000, VRR on
Case	None... naked on desk
Audio Device(s)	Astro A50 headset
Power Supply	Corsair HX750i, 80+ Platinum, 93% (250~700W), modular, single/dual rail (switch)
Mouse	Logitech MX Master (Gen1)
Keyboard	Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet
Software	Windows 11 Home 64bit (v23H2, OSB 22631.3155)

New Ryzen 3 build. Motherboard bios question

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Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16GB 3200C14 @ 3733mhz 16-15-15-30
Video Card(s)	Evga 2060 Super
Storage	Crucial 500 Nvme + 500 HDD
Display(s)	24" 1080p Dell
Case	Lian Li Lancool II
Power Supply	750w
Software	Rendering and Structural Analysis
Benchmark Scores	CB R20=8014 CB R15=3581