AMD GPU gamers only - your opinion on AMD drivers?

[Mussels]

My dads PC ran an RX470 (that i flashed to a 570) and now runs a 580... no issues at all. He pretty much lives in world of tanks so its not a broad test, but he games at 1080p 144Hz daily and it hasnt skipped a beat on either GPU.

I'm tempted for the new AMD cards purely because of the heat output of the 3080's

 

[R-T-B]

But AMD drivers are still way too open for the nominal case.

How has being open done anything but help AMD?

 

[Turmania]

Just do not be the ones who buys first wait a while. AMD is a serial offender in this regard. But as a caution, I advice anyone to wait a while even for other products from rival companies. At the end of the day, nothing is more frustrating than a bios/driver problem for your brand new pc.

 

[Mussels]

offending third party programs causing issues is so damn likely why end users find problems, but reviewers dont. No review machine is going to have RGB software or overlays (even something common like discord) running so that would fit with why some users have issues that reviewers never run into

Just do not be the ones who buys first wait a while. AMD is a serial offender in this regard. But as a caution, I advice anyone to wait a while even for other products from rival companies. At the end of the day, nothing is more frustrating than a bios/driver problem for your brand new pc.

to be fair, look at the 3080 launch with all its crashes. early adopters always have problems for every brand... so your advice is good.

 

[xenocide]

I think the new drivers are fine. I was having issues until recently that I thought were driver related, but it may have been CPU/Mobo related somehow? Who knows. I've had no issues with the drivers specifically. Just about everything problematic I've encountered was actually a problem with specific games or some such.

 

[RadeonProVega]

No problems on my end, even though i tend to use Enterprise AMD drivers for all my cards, even normal GPU'S. Enterprise drivers have better overall performance, compared to Adrenalin drivers.
Note , i only have two normal GPU, RX 570 8GB and my R7 260Oc, the rest are workstation gpus, but my current one Radeon pro w5500.

 

[R-T-B]

No problems on my end, even though i tend to use Enterprise AMD drivers for all my cards, even normal GPU'S. Enterprise drivers have better overall performance, compared to Adrenalin drivers.
Note , i only have two normal GPU, RX 570 8GB and my R7 260Oc, the rest are workstation gpus, but my current one Radeon pro w5500.

I found the enterprise drivers to perform more consistently for sure (reliable). Not sure they were really the faster of the two but they certainly didn't lose much and they always worked, even in the "bad days."

 

[GoldenX]

Pretty meh, previous 20.9.2 drivers solved hardware decoding, current 20.10.1 make them worse than before, even h.264 stutters.
OpenGL is useless, Vulkan is slower than Nvidia, ReLive is virtually disabled on integrated Vega GPUs, and we still miss the hardware accelerated GPU scheduler. I hope the December driver adds it.

 

[BoboOOZ]

How has being open done anything but help AMD?

It gives a lot of control to people/applications who potentially know very little.
Example for what I mean : Database servers need to be very stable, because they are are at the very cores of entreprise applications. How is that achieved? Most users have extremely few rights, this way they can't break the database.

Anyway, since my last post in this thread, I managed to reproduce another of the "dreaded Radeon driver issues": freezes and crashes in light games and YouTube videos. Only, I haven't changed anything with the graphic card, so after a few days, I found the culprit, it was the XMP profile, I had changed it from 1 to 2 and that was causing the crashes. Problem is, I had changed it with a bunch of other stuff, and I had to reload the defaults to actually find the problem. Now that reminds me of what I hear Chris the Good Old Gamer saying regularly, Ryzen memory overclocking is finicky, don't just put an XMP profile and think that you're done.
I bet that, like me, many Navi 10 users have Ryzen systems, they overclock the memory, and, then blame the video drivers, because they read on the internets that this is the cause to their problems.

Not only the video drivers, the whole Ryzen system is very open, and this is why people run into trouble. You should change the settings one by one and stress test them thoroughly, but most people don't do that, and when they run into trouble, they just blame the video drivers...

 

[R-T-B]

It gives a lot of control to people/applications who potentially know very little.

No, that's not how open-source works at all in a well modeled project. You still need to get your commit approved by knowledgable people controlling the core repo.

If stupid people are making stupid commits, that's just as likely to happen in closed source, but more likely to go unnoticed.

 

[BoboOOZ]

No, that's not how open-source works at all in a well modeled project. You still need to get your commit approved by knowledgable people controlling the core repo.

If stupid people are making stupid commits, that's just as likely to happen in closed source, but more likely to go unnoticed.

There's a misunderstanding here, I'm talking about the final software UI being too open for the final users for advanced features, I'm not talking about development at all (open source or "closed" source).

 

[R-T-B]

There's a misunderstanding here, I'm talking about the final software UI being too open for the final users for advanced features, I'm not talking about development at all (open source or "closed" source).

Oh, in that case that's a seperate animal, yeah. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Just got a 5700xt red devil. running driver only, stripped from download file. no problems at all.

 

[Space Lynx]

Just got a 5700xt red devil. running driver only, stripped from download file. no problems at all.

how do you strip to driver only on AMD? I wasn't aware you could

 

[Deleted member 24505]

how do you strip to driver only on AMD? I wasn't aware you could

Install AMD video driver ONLY

Here is a way to install the AMD video driver only without all the other bloat, if that is what you want. Download the AMD driver package, open that .exe with 7zip and you will see Bin64,Config,Packages and Setup.exe. Go into Packages and extract "Drivers". Use AMD cleanup utility to uninstall...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Melvis]

I've had Nvidia and I've had AMD cards for both a long time, probably about the same amount of time each honestly. MX440 Days till the 4000 series came out from AMD, got the 4870X2 second hand a yr or so later after they had came out, added a second 4870X2 then moved to 2x7930's then to 2x280x's and all the time I was on the AMD cards I had really no issues with drivers at all till I got the 280X's where I had 11 Driver updates in a row that screwed up crossfire in certain games to the point they couldnt even be played so by the 11th update I had enough! and moved back to Nvidia and the drivers for them since the GTX970 have been rock solid. That been said I do have 2 machines running AMD drivers, one with a RX 580 and for the most part its been perfectly fine, little buggy at the start but no worries the last 12months and same with the 2200G onboard GPU, also been no worries.

Honestly I have found AMD drivers to be good! but just take that little extra time to be as good as the Nvidia drivers , around 6months give or take. Except for my 280X's that far as I know never got fixed.

 

[kapone32]

Just got a 5700xt red devil. running driver only, stripped from download file. no problems at all.

Why would you not want full control of your experience?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Why would you not want full control of your experience?

Full control....maybe, full of bloat i don't want, yes.

I do not want to stream. I do not want AMD to monitor my system or launch games on my computer. I do not want an extra web browser. I want the drivers ONLY.

If they had a Nvidia like control panel that would be fine, but i do not want all the other crap that comes with it.

 

[FinneousPJ]

Only installing the parts you want IS full control.

 

[kapone32]

Full control....maybe, full of bloat i don't want, yes.

If they had a Nvidia like control panel that would be fine, but i do not want all the other crap that comes with it.

You are indeed entitled to your opinion but have you actually given it a shot? Indeed the Nvidia control panel seems Spartan to me vs Adreneline.

Only installing the parts you want IS full control.

All I am trying to establish is Adrneline is much more than bloat ware

 

[Deleted member 24505]

You are indeed entitled to your opinion but have you actually given it a shot? Indeed the Nvidia control panel seems Spartan to me vs Adreneline.


All I am trying to establish is Adrneline is much more than bloat ware

Yes i tried it. don't like it at all. to much going on. A simple one screen control panel for driver controls fine, but not that imo mess. My games work fine with driver only.

Only installing the parts you want IS full control.

You can't install only the parts you want, you used to be able to, but now it is all or nothing. I mean come on, a browser in the driver control panel. Who launches games from their driver control panel? bloated crap. So my full control option is none of it.

Also google it, it is not just me that feels the same.

 

[EarthDog]

You are indeed entitled to your opinion but have you actually given it a shot? Indeed the Nvidia control panel seems Spartan to me vs Adreneline.


All I am trying to establish is Adrneline is much more than bloat ware

It may not be bloatware, but it is more bloated than NVCP. I prefer NVCP over AMD's solution any day. IDC that still looks like it comes from Windows XP.

 

[kapone32]

It may not be bloatware, but it is more bloated than NVCP. I prefer NVCP over AMD's solution any day. IDC that still looks like it comes from Windows XP.

You know your preference and I honestly used to feel the same way you did. It was when I found the amount of things that you can do with your Monitor (no need for CRU) that got me hooked.

 

[ratirt]

I don't mind the Adrenaline layout and I find the options there very useful. It allows me to optimize any game for the best performance separately. Of course, there's plenty more you can do with the spectrum of option but for the time being, individual game optimization for me is the way to go.
Besides, if anyone find it unnecessary, you can always switch to global gaming settings and call it a day.

 

[delshay]

No complaints about the software works well here. & you can install drivers only if you want. There's even a software that I downloaded which I have never used that remove some parts of AMD Adrenalin software. I never used it, but I'm guessing it lets you pick which parts you want to remove if you have the full installation.