Dont build a pc until April

[nuggdoctor]

My opinion to people is DONT build right now. its the worst time in years to build a pc. Wait until april for stock to catch back up and for production to get back to normal and prices will drop.

 

[nguyen]

april 2024 you mean

 

[ixi]

Just nuggdoctor!

 

[nuggdoctor]

By april AMD cpu's will be available and so will most of nvidia and amd gpu's. right now to build with new parts you have to pay scalper prices. And by april production will resume to normal capacities and so will shipping, so a lot more of the item people need to build with with be available for much much cheaper.

 

[Atomic77]

Why build a computer? Every freaking computer I have ever had has been name brand such as HP and has worked for me for everything I ever needed a computer for. I don't have the brains or the smarts or time to build a pc. Not saying I would ever have one built but in my opinion its a big waste of time.

 

[freeagent]

Are you lost?

This isn't a Dell or HP forum

 

[300BaudBob]

Bad bad advice, that's about when I was hoping to build a new system...if everyone follows this advice I'll probably have to delay for a month or six .

 

[nuggdoctor]

Why build a computer? Every freaking computer I have ever had has been name brand such as HP and has worked for me for everything I ever needed a computer for. I don't have the brains or the smarts or time to build a pc. Not saying I would ever have one built but in my opinion its a big waste of time.

well. if all you do is watch a few youtube vids and play on facebook or twitter and maybe watch 1080p movies on netflix then a basic barebones pc that you get from best buy or walmart will honestly be just fine. But if you want to play games at high frame rates and at the best settings and resolutions then there is NOTHING you can get from any name brand pc company that youll find on a store shelf that will do it. YES the stores can ORDER you what you want but it isnt the same as building it yourself. And try to show me an off the shelf rig thats anywhere close to this. AND its not as hard as you think to build a pc.

Bad bad advice, that's about when I was hoping to build a new system...if everyone follows this advice I'll probably have to delay for a month or six .

how do you figure that? you cant get any of the new pc gear unless you pay scalper prices. which is double or triple the msrp youll pay if you wait till april.

go to bestbuy.com and try to buy a rig at ANY price with any of the newest cpu's or gpu's. theyre all gone. all of them

even the 4 and 5 thousand dollar rigs. so good luck in your adventure building in todays climate.

 

[300BaudBob]

well. if all you do is watch a few youtube vids and play on facebook or twitter and maybe watch 1080p movies on netflix then a basic barebones pc that you get from best buy or walmart will honestly be just fine. But if you want to play games at high frame rates and at the best settings and resolutions then there is NOTHING you can get from any name brand pc company that youll find on a store shelf that will do it. YES the stores can ORDER you what you want but it isnt the same as building it yourself. And try to show me an off the shelf rig thats anywhere close to this. AND its not as hard as you think to build a pc.


how do you figure that? you cant get any of the new pc gear unless you pay scalper prices. which is double or triple the msrp youll pay if you wait till april.

go to bestbuy.com and try to buy a rig at ANY price with any of the newest cpu's or gpu's. theyre all gone. all of them

even the 4 and 5 thousand dollar rigs. so good luck in your adventure building in todays climate.

Tis a joke see the wink?

 

[nuggdoctor]

I didnt till just now lmmfao

 

[300BaudBob]

I didnt till just now lmmfao

I'll admit my jokes keep falling pretty flat here... but it's the way I'm built to keep trying

 

[nuggdoctor]

I'll admit my jokes keep falling pretty flat here... but it's the way I'm built to keep trying

Gotta keep trying and hoping for the best . just like the poor saps that are still hitting refresh on their 3080 orders rotflmmfao

 

[8BitZ80]

Lets be honest, it's always a bad time to build a new computer. There's at least half a dozen components to buy and they all have their own supply/pricing issues.

 

[nuggdoctor]

Lets be honest, it's always a bad time to build a new computer. There's at least half a dozen components to buy and they all have their own supply/pricing issues.

yes and no. If you dont need the latest and greatest top tier items like the 5950x for example when a normal launch happens it would have been a great time to snag a 3950x or even a 3900x. but since it was a bot and paper launch the prices of the last gen never went down and in most cases went up due to the new demand for them since people couldnt get the new ones.

combine the botched launches with 10's of millions more buyers than ever because of covid restrictions and lockdowns it all create the most toxic electronics market ive seen in my life and im 42 and have been building pcs since the 90s

I made this video about this topic a month ago

 

[300BaudBob]

Lets be honest, it's always a bad time to build a new computer. There's at least half a dozen components to buy and they all have their own supply/pricing issues.

I guess bad time is relative but this is an especially bad time with several problems. When I built my x99 system ddr4 was new and expensive and in short supply, but it was just one component. Now several things I'd want for a new build are in short supply. Plus there are some interesting things coming out in the next month or two which I'm interested in. Also it takes time for Linux to catch up to new hardware sometimes...all of which tells me this is a good time to be a little patient.
Of course if my desktop dies tonight...well I'd probably bite the bullet and go for building a new system now but barring that waiting a bit seems like the best bet (and of course it is a bet something bad might happen like a couple fab plants burning down but hey the odds are fairly low).

 

[nuggdoctor]

Right now EVERYTHING is jacked up. look at motherboards, ram and power supplies. It seem all components except cases and liquid coolers are hitting an insane premium right now.

great time to buy a case or your prospective aio cooler though. so theres the silver lining

 

[Atomic77]

Well well well way to go y'all rip me a part. All I have to say is some off the shelf computers like this laptop I got from Costco in July 2020 can do a awful lot. its the one pictured in my picture when I post.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Well well well way to go y'all rip me a part. All I have to say is some off the shelf computers like this laptop I got from Costco in July 2020 can do a awful lot. its the one pictured in my picture when I post.

Meh, don't let the snobs get to you. If it works for you, go for it!

I'm in the middle of building my Ryzen 2.0 rig. Got my R5 3600 the day before yesterday @ Newegg for $200, and now I'm going back and forth between an X570 and a B550 board, both in stock. I mean, yeah the GPU/CPU thing sucks a big one, but unless you're wanting to buy something like a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (they're all on Ebay, lol) mobo stock on the etailers I frequent is pretty good still

 

[nuggdoctor]

Meh, don't let the snobs get to you. If it works for you, go for it!

I'm in the middle of building my Ryzen 2.0 rig. Got my R5 3600 the day before yesterday @ Newegg for $200, and now I'm going back and forth between an X570 and a B550 board, both in stock. I mean, yeah the GPU/CPU thing sucks a big one, but unless you're wanting to buy something like a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (they're all on Ebay, lol) mobo stock on the etailers I frequent is pretty good still

The stock on mobo's and ram and ssd isnt the problem. its the price gouging their doing. why are refurbished 2070 supers going for 900$ and new ones 11 and 1200$? why are the bottom end ryzen mobos now almost 250$? thats what im talking about when i say mobo's and other items. Now is a decent time to get your cpu aio cooler or psu though. And on the other side it comes down to usage. What are you using the rig for? For example i scrapped consoles to game on pc so I need a lot more than the average youtube watcher or email checker or netflix watcher. Its all in what YOU need to do what YOU want to do. its not a snob thing. its a practical thing. And nobody carries high end gaming computers in stock with all the newest hardware. it all has to be ordered anyway. so if youre ordering stuff to begin with, then why not order your own parts and build it yourself. get more for your money and save money by not paying an inflated price for a brand or for them to put it together for you.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

OTOH, even at Newegg, looked like no hard time getting a B550 motherboard! I think I could get a good one there for less than $200, IIRC.

 

[Splinterdog]

It also depends on where you live. In Argentina, prices never drop and we have devaluation and inflation (50%+) to contend with, so we always build our PCs yesterday.
The motto here seems to be "Buy it now before it goes up in price."

 

[kapone32]

In actual fact the best way to build a PC right now are:

1. Make sure you look on Amazon, Newegg and whoever but look for items like Cases, PSUs, and storage.
2. Have a friend at the closest brick and mortar computer store for GPUs and CPUs.
3. Intel has some actual great deals on pretty good 10th Gen CPUs.
4. While the 3000 and 6000 are both compelling the RX 580/1650 will still satisfy most desires.

The problem with waiting is that prices may been even higher by April if demand continues at this unprecedented level. Here in Canada Canada Computers has no CPUs for sale under $300 in stock from AMD.

 

[nuggdoctor]

OTOH, even at Newegg, looked like no hard time getting a B550 motherboard! I think I could get a good one there for less than $200, IIRC.

Can that handle the new 5900x and 5950x at that price? some of the cheapest boards are having issues with them.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Can that handle the new 5900x and 5950x at that price? some of the cheapest boards are having issues with them.

At Newegg, don't be surprised if they are all out-of-stock!

Looks like the B550 variant of the Tomahawk should have good enough MOSFETs, VRM(s) and phases.

 

[nuggdoctor]

In actual fact the best way to build a PC right now are:

1. Make sure you look on Amazon, Newegg and whoever but look for items like Cases, PSUs, and storage.
2. Have a friend at the closest brick and mortar computer store for GPUs and CPUs.
3. Intel has some actual great deals on pretty good 10th Gen CPUs.
4. While the 3000 and 6000 are both compelling the RX 580/1650 will still satisfy most desires.

The problem with waiting is that prices may been even higher by April if demand continues at this unprecedented level. Here in Canada Canada Computers has no CPUs for sale under $300 in stock from AMD.

the problem isnt the new demand. They want to claim it is. but its in production and with covid production across the board is down. and add the fact that theres a shortage of silicon right now again due to covid. some have returned to full capacity and still some have not. but by april production will have surpassed the increased demand. as well as shortages in ram. its just bad all the way around right now. the prices will spike through january and into february . but by april the market should normalize.