be quiet! has entered the game

[Tom Sunday]

This is indeed my goal, is to do something special. Time will tell how it fares, but being be quiet! I have no doubt new and exciting (and quiet!) stuff will be soon to come



I fear you have me at a bit of a disadvantage, you know a lot about me, but I do not you. My apologies if we met in the past and I am not putting two and two together.

Have we met?

We have never met. I am simply just a enthusiast on the sideline and remember good people when I see them. Born in Hamburg, Germany and worked for DeBartolo in Youngstown, OH for 10-years. This helped to get my attention and then your appointment at 'be quite.' Its a small world afterall. Again all the best to you!

 

[dgianstefani]

This is indeed my goal, is to do something special. Time will tell how it fares, but being be quiet! I have no doubt new and exciting (and quiet!) stuff will be soon to come

I think a chimney style case with blocked out, sound dampening t. glass or metal side panels, bottom to top airflow would be ideal. Whether it was conventional box, or tall tower with slim, square base. Maybe a design for air cooled gpu with side vents, and one with no vents for liquid cooled system.

Small cases have easily controlled case flow management, hence why I'm suggesting chimney style, so theres no fighting for direction/breathing. There's also the advantage of low internal air volume which can be replaced with fresh air quickly.

Seasonic did their silly distribution PSU case/module, which is pretty much useless for full ATX unless you actually think it looks good, but built into an itx case that was heavily volume optimised for size and airflow, an equivalent would work well.

Check out singularity computers.

There's stuff you can do with 1x120 at bottom and 1x120 at top, or dual 2x1 fans at top/bottom. These seem to be the most space efficient/cooling effective designs.

 

[Tom Sunday]

We have never met. I am simply just a enthusiast on the sideline and remember good people when I see them. Born in Hamburg, Germany and worked for DeBartolo in Youngstown, OH for 10-years. This helped to get my attention and then your appointment at 'be quite.' Its a small world afterall. Again all the best to you!

I have been a big fan of the Dark Rock Pro 4 and the Dark Rock TF. Both fine pieces of German engineering. I own both. My thoughts recently though have been a lot on the mounting details! Including all available presentl AIO cooler fitments from others. What I noticed is that the later this year arriving Alder Lake generation has a substantially larger 'rectangular shaped' CPU. (500 more pins and a LGA 1700) Will thus all current CPU cooler manufactures be requiring to producing a cooling product specifically made for and or fitting the Alder Lake CPU? I am not sure if Intel themselves have taken an official position on this, because ultimately for them it will come down to standing by their CPU warranties, performance and quelling marketing concerns. Thoughts?

 

[Tom Sunday]

Alder Lake generation has a substantially larger 'rectangular shaped' CPU. (500 more pins and a LGA 1700) Will thus all current CPU cooler manufactures be requiring to producing a cooling product specifically made for and or fitting the Alder Lake CPU?

To feeding a bit more info onto the subject, I today just read on Wikipedia titled LGA 1700: "LGA 1700 is designed as a replacement for the LGA 1200 (known as Socket H5). LGA 1700 has 1700 protruding pins to make contact with the pads on the processor. Unlike its predecessor LGA 1200, it'll have 500 more pins, which required a major change in socket and processor sizes; it is 7.5 mm longer. It is the first major change in Intel's LGA desktop CPU socket size since LGA 775 introduction in 2004, especially for consumer-grade CPU sockets. Larger size also required change in heatsink fastening holes configuration, making previously used cooling solutions incompatible with LGA 1700 motherboards and CPUs."

If this is correct we are most certainly going to be in for a major cooling solution issue and which hopefully will be clarified real soon by "official comments and or statements" from manufacturers and Intel.

​

 

[Toothless]

Can I be your model for showing off products? I even have two photogenic cats that could join.

 

[sneekypeet]

To feeding a bit more info onto the subject, I today just read on Wikipedia titled LGA 1700: "LGA 1700 is designed as a replacement for the LGA 1200 (known as Socket H5). LGA 1700 has 1700 protruding pins to make contact with the pads on the processor. Unlike its predecessor LGA 1200, it'll have 500 more pins, which required a major change in socket and processor sizes; it is 7.5 mm longer. It is the first major change in Intel's LGA desktop CPU socket size since LGA 775 introduction in 2004, especially for consumer-grade CPU sockets. Larger size also required change in heatsink fastening holes configuration, making previously used cooling solutions incompatible with LGA 1700 motherboards and CPUs."

If this is correct we are most certainly going to be in for a major cooling solution issue and which hopefully will be clarified real soon by "official comments and or statements" from manufacturers and Intel.

​

Coolers are already designed to fit socket LGA2066, LGA1700 would fit within that same area.

 

[tabascosauz]

Hey Guys,

My name is Shannon, I am the marketing manager for USA and Canada for be quiet!

I wanted to introduce myself as while I have been around, lurking TPU for a very long time, I only recently joined with an official rep account.

I would love to hear constructive feedback from your guys on be quiet!, your experiences, and what you would like to see.

Until the Pure Base 500DX, we had not explored much in the space of RGB, as we prefer a clean subdued aesthetic, but with the 500DX I think it has been received quite well.

I addressed the RGB directly as I know it will come up, and we have taken a much more slow-rolling approach to the inclusion of RGB.

I look forward to seeing your feedback and what we can do to make an effective change to better meet your needs for a PC chassis.

P.S. I am a good dude and love chatting with the community, so even if you have not looked at our products, please feel free to give them a look and let me know what you would like to see.

Great to see such an involved rep on TPU!

I'm not really one for traditional ATX towers, but the SFF space can always use more competition! That said, I agree with some of the sentiment here that I'd much rather see a time-tested, well-developed product that is distinctly Be Quiet and plays to BQ's strengths, even if it's a little bigger in volume.

If you guys put out a reasonably compact mATX tower that is as well-made and practical as the 500DX, I probably will be building in it at some point in the future for friends or family as most of the stuff I built for them is mATX.

Great cases, but I'm really not impressed with the fans. I love the SW3's vibration mounts (sturdy, unique and well thought-out), but that's about it; they seriously lack the ability to push adequate amounts of air, and sacrificing nearly all airflow for quietness is...well, not very balanced lol. I'm thinking of getting another pair of redux 120s or A12x25s for an experiment, to see just how much the SW3 135/120 are holding back my Dark Rock Pro 4 (in itself a very stout cooler, fans not so much).

Only other gripe I have is that the cooler department still doesn't know how to bend fan clips to incorporate a simple tab into them (lol), but I guess that's hardly got anything to do with cases.

 

[Mussels]

Only other gripe I have is that the cooler department still doesn't know how to bend fan clips to incorporate a simple tab into them (lol), but I guess that's hardly got anything to do with cases.

God yes, the clips are a PITA with that

 

[Tom Sunday]

We have never met. I am simply just a enthusiast on the sideline and remember good people when I see them. Born in Hamburg, Germany and worked for DeBartolo in Youngstown, OH for 10-years. (this when we bought the San Francisco 49's for $13 Million) This helped to get my attention and then your appointment at 'be quite.' Its a small world afterall. Again all the best to you!

Hi Shannon...just a side note on the RGB. I think that 'be quite' has done a fine job to date in representing their products here in the USA and getting the high quality of German engineering across quite well. Even the 'ultra' critical German enthusiast market has given 'be quite' much added respect and promoted the following of their products.

As to the RGB side that is a good question and as almost all manufacturer marketing departments have been pondering or regurgitating that question as well. How much is enough or too little? In the case of 'be quite' in the States and Canada, I totally mirror your previous comment: "We prefer a clean subdued aesthetic." My thinking is that 'be quite' should stay on a 'subdued course' as it like "Porsche Design" will thus better stand the test of time and continues to be recognized to present and produce quality over flash. I also believe that that the entire RGB craze will ultimately shrink and or restrict itself to much less of a marketing tool and or requirement by the masses.

What differentiates 'be quite' to date from the rest of the pack is its German engineering and design. The fantastically designed Dark Rock cooling solutions and the recent introduction of the 'Straight Power' supplies have already led the way. My final take-away: "Allow 'be quite' to be the top engineering company it already is and keeping on to be distinctive and forward in its design and quality. Batteries and flashy light shows not included.

I recently overheard someone talk about a major AIO manufacturer and noted: "I wish they would find a way in dropping their performances in 'Temps' by 10 degrees or lower, instead of giving me more bling?" Enough said!

 

[Mussels]

So now that i've had time to think about what i'd like to see with changes to be quiet products:

1. notches in the fan clips
2. optional RGB (optional clip-on ARGB tops to the air coolers would work amazing)
3. ITX cases!

 

[be quiet! - Shannon]

We have never met. I am simply just a enthusiast on the sideline and remember good people when I see them. Born in Hamburg, Germany and worked for DeBartolo in Youngstown, OH for 10-years. This helped to get my attention and then your appointment at 'be quite.' Its a small world afterall. Again all the best to you!

Well, cheers, thank you for following along!

I think a chimney style case with blocked out, sound dampening t. glass or metal side panels, bottom to top airflow would be ideal. Whether it was conventional box, or tall tower with slim, square base. Maybe a design for air cooled gpu with side vents, and one with no vents for liquid cooled system.

Small cases have easily controlled case flow management, hence why I'm suggesting chimney style, so theres no fighting for direction/breathing. There's also the advantage of low internal air volume which can be replaced with fresh air quickly.

Seasonic did their silly distribution PSU case/module, which is pretty much useless for full ATX unless you actually think it looks good, but built into an itx case that was heavily volume optimised for size and airflow, an equivalent would work well.

Check out singularity computers.

There's stuff you can do with 1x120 at bottom and 1x120 at top, or dual 2x1 fans at top/bottom. These seem to be the most space efficient/cooling effective designs.

These are excellent points and something i have considered. Thank you for sharing.

I have been a big fan of the Dark Rock Pro 4 and the Dark Rock TF. Both fine pieces of German engineering. I own both. My thoughts recently though have been a lot on the mounting details! Including all available presentl AIO cooler fitments from others. What I noticed is that the later this year arriving Alder Lake generation has a substantially larger 'rectangular shaped' CPU. (500 more pins and a LGA 1700) Will thus all current CPU cooler manufactures be requiring to producing a cooling product specifically made for and or fitting the Alder Lake CPU? I am not sure if Intel themselves have taken an official position on this, because ultimately for them it will come down to standing by their CPU warranties, performance and quelling marketing concerns. Thoughts?

I have seen some of the detailed leaks of the socket and I cannot directly comment on an unannounced/unreleased product. be quiet! will always work toward ensuring our products can adequately cool any current desktop processor. Whether that means a standalone product like the TR4 model Dark Rock Pro TR4, will very much depend upon IHS surface area and also where the logic components reside that need to be cooled.

However, for cooler feedback, gimme time, I will be opening a thread in the cooler section as well.

To feeding a bit more info onto the subject, I today just read on Wikipedia titled LGA 1700: "LGA 1700 is designed as a replacement for the LGA 1200 (known as Socket H5). LGA 1700 has 1700 protruding pins to make contact with the pads on the processor. Unlike its predecessor LGA 1200, it'll have 500 more pins, which required a major change in socket and processor sizes; it is 7.5 mm longer. It is the first major change in Intel's LGA desktop CPU socket size since LGA 775 introduction in 2004, especially for consumer-grade CPU sockets. Larger size also required change in heatsink fastening holes configuration, making previously used cooling solutions incompatible with LGA 1700 motherboards and CPUs."

If this is correct we are most certainly going to be in for a major cooling solution issue and which hopefully will be clarified real soon by "official comments and or statements" from manufacturers and Intel.

​

Same answer as above

Can I be your model for showing off products? I even have two photogenic cats that could join.

I cannot make such an offer at this time, but I always welcome kitteh pics!

Coolers are already designed to fit socket LGA2066, LGA1700 would fit within that same area.

Within reason, this is true, however, if the purported leaks are true the Alder lake chips IHS could actually be long enough that not all contact bases will cover them.

Great to see such an involved rep on TPU!

I'm not really one for traditional ATX towers, but the SFF space can always use more competition! That said, I agree with some of the sentiment here that I'd much rather see a time-tested, well-developed product that is distinctly Be Quiet and plays to BQ's strengths, even if it's a little bigger in volume.

If you guys put out a reasonably compact mATX tower that is as well-made and practical as the 500DX, I probably will be building in it at some point in the future for friends or family as most of the stuff I built for them is mATX.

Great cases, but I'm really not impressed with the fans. I love the SW3's vibration mounts (sturdy, unique and well thought-out), but that's about it; they seriously lack the ability to push adequate amounts of air, and sacrificing nearly all airflow for quietness is...well, not very balanced lol. I'm thinking of getting another pair of redux 120s or A12x25s for an experiment, to see just how much the SW3 135/120 are holding back my Dark Rock Pro 4 (in itself a very stout cooler, fans not so much).

Only other gripe I have is that the cooler department still doesn't know how to bend fan clips to incorporate a simple tab into them (lol), but I guess that's hardly got anything to do with cases.

All great points and things as I have mentioned I am pushing to get going. However, for cooler feedback, gimme time, Iwill be opening a thread in the cooler section as well.

God yes, the clips are a PITA with that

Heard loud and clear

Hi Shannon...just a side note on the RGB. I think that 'be quite' has done a fine job to date in representing their products here in the USA and getting the high quality of German engineering across quite well. Even the 'ultra' critical German enthusiast market has given 'be quite' much added respect and promoted the following of their products.

As to the RGB side that is a good question and as almost all manufacturer marketing departments have been pondering or regurgitating that question as well. How much is enough or too little? In the case of 'be quite' in the States and Canada, I totally mirror your previous comment: "We prefer a clean subdued aesthetic." My thinking is that 'be quite' should stay on a 'subdued course' as it like "Porsche Design" will thus better stand the test of time and continues to be recognized to present and produce quality over flash. I also believe that that the entire RGB craze will ultimately shrink and or restrict itself to much less of a marketing tool and or requirement by the masses.

What differentiates 'be quite' to date from the rest of the pack is its German engineering and design. The fantastically designed Dark Rock cooling solutions and the recent introduction of the 'Straight Power' supplies have already led the way. My final take-away: "Allow 'be quite' to be the top engineering company it already is and keeping on to be distinctive and forward in its design and quality. Batteries and flashy light shows not included.

I recently overheard someone talk about a major AIO manufacturer and noted: "I wish they would find a way in dropping their performances in 'Temps' by 10 degrees or lower, instead of giving me more bling?" Enough said!

This is why I stated it as Idid, we focus on the design first along with aesthetic close behind, but if a chassis cannot be made to do its job well, then there is no point in making it pretty. Or, making it at all for that matter

So now that i've had time to think about what i'd like to see with changes to be quiet products:

1. notches in the fan clips
2. optional RGB (optional clip-on ARGB tops to the air coolers would work amazing)
3. ITX cases!

1) New thread on cooling coming soon
2) It's possible, but nothing you will see in the coming few quarters. (Cool idea though and something worth looking into)
3) Believe me, you are preaching to the choir bro. I'm working on it

 

[sneekypeet]

Within reason, this is true, however, if the purported leaks are true the Alder lake chips IHS could actually be long enough that not all contact bases will cover them.

Right, forgot where I was posting.

 

[be quiet! - Shannon]

Thank you guys for the feedback, and please feel free to discuss any other ideas you have, and i will be opening up threads in the cooling and PSU section just to ensure the threads can stay more focused on the topic for that category.


You guys rock!

 

[Mussels]

Thank you guys for the feedback, and please feel free to discuss any other ideas you have, and i will be opening up threads in the cooling and PSU section just to ensure the threads can stay more focused on the topic for that category.


You guys dark rock pro!

made that... cooler... for you

 

[be quiet! - Shannon]

made that... cooler... for you

 

[Blaylock]

Glad you're here Shannon! I have several be quiet! components and love them all.

 

[maxfly]

I have always held be quiet! fans in very high regard but havent had an opportunity to use any of your other gear yet. I look forward to seeing what kind of goodies you guys come out with in the coming months and years. Particularly this coming year while you have an essentially captive audience ;D

 

[Blaylock]

be quiet! GPU's would be most welcomed, ok any GPU's would be most welcomed, but quiet ones would be especially welcomed!!!

 

[claes]

be quiet! GPU's would be most welcomed, ok any GPU's would be most welcomed, but quiet ones would be especially welcomed!!!

To speak to that more directly, I’d love to see a bequiet GPU cooler. I know it’s a losing market with all of the socket changes and “Intel entering the game,” buy it’d be fun to give all of those AIB partners a run for their money.

Honestly, if you guys just came out with a bracket to fit your CPU coolers to GPUs I’d buy it in a second (everyone’s just filling those PCIe slots with SSDs anyway).

 

[be quiet! - Shannon]

Glad you're here Shannon! I have several be quiet! components and love them all.

Thats awesome to hear, and please feel free to share anything you would like to see. Cannot guarantee it will happen, but I am always open to ideas

I have always held be quiet! fans in very high regard but havent had an opportunity to use any of your other gear yet. I look forward to seeing what kind of goodies you guys come out with in the coming months and years. Particularly this coming year while you have an essentially captive audience ;D

Welp, hopefully, the audience won't be captive for much longer, but I still hope to impress as we push for newer better offerings over the coming time.

be quiet! GPU's would be most welcomed, ok any GPU's would be most welcomed, but quiet ones would be especially welcomed!!!

When I said "Please share anything you would like to see" I feel like I should have been more precise

To speak to that more directly, I’d love to see a bequiet GPU cooler. I know it’s a losing market with all of the socket changes and “Intel entering the game,” buy it’d be fun to give all of those AIB partners a run for their money.

Honestly, if you guys just came out with a bracket to fit your CPU coolers to GPUs I’d buy it in a second (everyone’s just filling those PCIe slots with SSDs anyway).

That's an interesting one, and not one I had considered (Internet cookie for you) See what I did there.... yea I know, I can be lame...

In all honesty that is a cool idea and many have abandoned this idea mostly because several AIB cards have gotten so much better, but never know what we may be able to come up with.

 

[Mussels]

Oh, i have some be quiet! news

I bought a 450W SFX be quiet PSU that seemed great, except under load the fan would rattle if the fan was facing "down" - you could cover the fan or turn the PSU upside down and it would resolve

Returned it, and they had no stock of those PSU's at all so i got store credit - they made it sound like a batch of that model had the fan issue :/

 

[Liquid Cool]

This is the first time I've seen a Be Quiet! thread here at TPU...

Just wanted to say I'm to the point where I ONLY use Be Quiet! fans...I love them. The PureWings2 specifically.

Good price, dead silent...no ticks, no squeals....and no premature deaths.

Don't change what you're doing.

If I could add a little commentary...

You're underplaying just how good your SFX powers supply are. I've had VERY good success with them, again...no coil whine, dead silent, run well. Although, how can you expect to sell them when they're always sold out everywhere and I don't think it's from people buying them...it's because they're not being stocked.

Second...I'll add to others comments. The mini-itx case space needs some fresh ideas. I think Be Quiet! would do very well in that space...it's not crowded.

Best of luck Shannon...

Liquid Cool

 

[Blaylock]

Honestly, if you guys just came out with a bracket to fit your CPU coolers to GPUs I’d buy it in a second (everyone’s just filling those PCIe slots with SSDs anyway).

The issue with mounting a CPU cooler to a GPU is there are no provisions to cool the memory.

I was thinking along the lines of something to compete with Arctic's Accelero line. They are great products but I think be quiet! could do it better and sexier. Plus, any time you add competition to a market all products get better.

 

[Mussels]

Hey Be quiet, start making coolers for 30x0 cards

God i'd love a 3 slot monster for my 3090 that was silent at full wattage

 

[toilet pepper]

I second the ITX case with decent cooling options. A sandwich case the size of an nr200. 240mm support top and bottom would be cool. You top that off with the classic black you guys have and we're golden.