Acer Predator Apollo DDR4-3600 MHz CL14 2x8 GB

[Black Haru]

Acer dives into the DDR4 market with the help of BIWIN Storage by introducing the Predator Apollo. Featuring a striking aesthetic and blazing-fast Samsung B-die ICs, the Apollo could be a strong first strike into a highly competitive market. Let's see if this kit is Predator or prey!

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[Athlonite]

Why does this show tRC set to 85

when tRC should have been set to 50 like shown here

 

[Mescalamba]

That RGB has sorta Cyberpunk feel to it.

 

[deu]

whats with the curve on the pins!? weirding me out!

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Some sexy-looking sticks right here! Price kills it for me though

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm glad I got the ram before the prices went up... I can't remember but I think I paid close to 150 for my 2x16gb 3200 cas 14 kit... which oc'd to 3600 cas 14 easily.

 

[mechtech]

So from Thaiphoon, speed grade 2133 in spd. and XPM 1.45V!! why cant there be SPDs for 2400, 2666, 2933, 3200 @ 1.2V also?

 

[Caring1]

I can't take this review seriously as the AMD charts use different (older) Ram compared to the Intel charts.
ToughRam 3200/ 3600 as opposed to 4600MHz.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I expected better, doesn't really offer more performance than the G.Skill 3600 CL16 Trident Neo Z. Basically DDR4 is at it's peak performance and other than using frequencies which are no good for Ryzen's IF, I think 3600 CL16 is the sweet spot. Maybe for Intel it matters, but I couldn't care less about anything they offer at the moment, but that will change with Alder Lake I'm certain.

 

[wheresmycar]

pretty pretty pretty lol

Side-lining performance for now, nothing has impressed me more or even come close to G skill Trizent Z's RGB appeal.... for once these predator sticks are right up there for a worthy alternative. I like!

Can we expect 3600Mhz 16-18CL / 3200Mhz 16CL for a more compassionate asking price?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Why does this show tRC set to 85

when tRC should have been set to 50 like shown here

That happens on my system as well, I have to manually set tRC to 52.

 

[Athlonite]

That happens on my system as well, I have to manually set tRC to 52.

yes but to test them like that isn't going to show a true performance measurement on AMD or that the tester knows what they're doing in a good light when things like this are left unfixed

 

[Keullo-e]

whats with the curve on the pins!? weirding me out!

Every desktop DDR4 module has that weird shape, IIRC for better contact.

 

[maxfly]

yes but to test them like that isn't going to show a true performance measurement on AMD or that the tester knows what they're doing in a good light when things like this are left unfixed

He didnt change the timings until the ocing portion of the review.

 

[Athlonite]

He didnt change the timings until the ocing portion of the review.

Not the point here why would you not use the timings the manufacturer has provided from the start which are 14-15-15-35-50 not 14-15-15-35-85

 

[maxfly]

Not the point here why would you not use the timings the manufacturer has provided from the start which are 14-15-15-35-50 not 14-15-15-35-85

I thought it was obvious, shrug.
He simply set both rigs to xmp during the initial tests. Once the xmp tests were finished he tightened the timings...

 

[deu]

Every desktop DDR4 module has that weird shape, IIRC for better contact.

Are you sure? Maybe I have completely missed that (Think I have put like 10-15 setups together with ddr4, so that is quiet an accomplishment

 

[Keullo-e]

Are you sure? Maybe I have completely missed that (Think I have put like 10-15 setups together with ddr4, so that is quiet an accomplishment

Totally sure. Just google "ddr4 module" and you'll see that only SO-DIMM DDR4s doesn't have that shape.

 

[Athlonite]

I thought it was obvious, shrug.
He simply set both rigs to xmp during the initial tests. Once the xmp tests were finished he tightened the timings...

he may have set XMP on both systems but it got the settings wrong and it would have taken all of 30 seconds to go into the BIOS and set it right and then if it didn't work with the manufacturers settings he should have said so in the review

 

[jaszy]

he may have set XMP on both systems but it got the settings wrong and it would have taken all of 30 seconds to go into the BIOS and set it right and then if it didn't work with the manufacturers settings he should have said so in the review

I know this is a late response, but AMD AGESA forces those values. It doesn't matter what kind of kit it is. What the reviewer did was correct here as most people don't bother with changing timings if using XMP.

Forcing lower TRC doesn't really show "out of box" performance and would skew results for people that don't touch ram.

I expected better, doesn't really offer more performance than the G.Skill 3600 CL16 Trident Neo Z. Basically DDR4 is at it's peak performance and other than using frequencies which are no good for Ryzen's IF, I think 3600 CL16 is the sweet spot. Maybe for Intel it matters, but I couldn't care less about anything they offer at the moment, but that will change with Alder Lake I'm certain.

What the reviewer did incorrect was use multiple versions of AIDA and compare them against newer versions. He never re-tested old results... IE: older versions specifically 6.20 have inflated numbers.

The biwin acer kit looks like its on v6.30+. The 2x8 3600 CL16 Tridentz would score around the same if versions matched up.