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Hi my current build is

i5 3570k
Asus p8z77-m
8GB DDR3 Ram
GTX 1060 6gb
Bequiet 530W PSU

Adding a new psu
(Corsair TX650M)

Looking at upgrading the cpu motherboard and ram any recommendations?
 
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What do you mostly use your PC for?
Any specific apps you require or games that you play?
What's wrong with your current setup?
And what kind of improvement are you hoping to see with the new build?
 
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Hi my current build is

i5 3570k
Asus p8z77-m
8GB DDR3 Ram
GTX 1060 6gb
Bequiet 530W PSU

Adding a new psu
(Corsair TX650M)

Looking at upgrading the cpu motherboard and ram any recommendations?
What's your budget, what country are you located, what will be the primary uses for this PC and what is your current monitor resolution?
 
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As others said what are your goals and limitations for the upgrade.
 
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Come on, at least give us a budget
 
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choose one of these and call it a day... only thing i would worry is psu other than that.... buying parts separately will cost more at this stage
 
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choose one of these and call it a day... only thing i would worry is psu other than that.... buying parts separately will cost more at this stage
Those don't have a gpu. With that said let's put your suggestion to the test. The psu is dependant on choice of graphics card which is subject to monitor resolution.


Phanteks Eclipse P400A $69.99

Exhaust fan for that case up above.

https://www.amazon.com/Antec-120mm-Performance-Connector-Single/dp/B08PVL8FJJ/
Antec 120mm Case Fan $5.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $139.99

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-...ked-desktop-processor/6452218.p?skuId=6452218
Intel Core i5-11400 $189.99

https://www.amazon.com/Gelid-Solutions-Phantom-Cooler-Case/dp/B076KYYSRW
Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler $36.99

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K8G32C16U4B/dp/B083TRRT16/
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 $87.99

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-1TB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFFX5MD/
Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe Internal SSD $109.99

Total: $641

Review of that cpu. Look for Core i5 11400F + Opt on the benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

A better look at that board.

 
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Sorry guys had an early night.

From the UK

I'm about to upgrade the psu,got that a week ago

Tbh I've mainly been playing call of duty and fortnite but noticed I've had to put the graphics on low to stop the stuttering.

I don't really get much time to game anymore just figured it was time to upgrade as it's been almost 8 years
 
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Sorry guys had an early night.

From the UK

I'm about to upgrade the psu,got that a week ago

Tbh I've mainly been playing call of duty and fortnite but noticed I've had to put the graphics on low to stop the stuttering.

I don't really get much time to game anymore just figured it was time to upgrade as it's been almost 8 years
Budget and monitor resolution?
 
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Budget and monitor resolution?

Yeah, need a budget, but since he/she hasn't said anything about a monitor upgrade, I assume the OP plans to keep their ASUS 1080p monitor listed in their system specs
 
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Yep don't plan on upgrading my monitor at the moment

Current monitor

Budget I can spend upto £700 but as I don't use it as much I'd just like to be able to play most games on medium/high setting, the cheaper the better but if there's a good deal about...

Hoping to sell on my used parts which will help with costs

Also case is a M-ATX
 
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Yep don't plan on upgrading my monitor at the moment

Current monitor

Budget I can spend upto £700 but as I don't use it as much I'd just like to be able to play most games on medium/high setting, the cheaper the better but if there's a good deal about...

Hoping to sell on my used parts which will help with costs

Also case is a M-ATX
You could do something like this and use your existing gpu until graphic card prices start to come back down.

MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA £109.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...reads-26ghz-44ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w-retail
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/dee...-single-tower-aluminium-fins-4x-heatpipes-int
DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX GTE V2 Black Cooler £24.98

https://www.ebuyer.com/743022-corsa...ram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 £72.99

Total: £358 inc VAT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174802834606
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12GB £585.00

Review of that cpu w/benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

A better look at that board.

 
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You could do something like this and use your existing gpu until graphic card prices start to come back down.

MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA £109.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...reads-26ghz-44ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w-retail
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/dee...-single-tower-aluminium-fins-4x-heatpipes-int
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https://www.ebuyer.com/743022-corsa...ram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 £72.99

Total: £358 inc VAT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174802834606
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12GB £585.00

Review of that cpu w/benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

A better look at that board.

I'm more than happy with my GPU at the moment

Also is it worth keeping the scythe ninja mini ?

Forgot how complicated this is!!!!
 
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I'm more than happy with my GPU at the moment
This dealer has that cpu in stock atm.

 
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This dealer has that cpu in stock atm.

Thanks but now im comparing it to the cpus @BarbaricSoul recommended
and wondering do i need to spend more? I just want it for casual gaming etc :confused:


AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

or the

Intel Core i7-11700K

Price is great for the

Intel Core i5 11400F
 
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Thanks but now im comparing it to the cpus @BarbaricSoul recommended
and wondering do i need to spend more? I just want it for casual gaming etc :confused:


AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

or the

Intel Core i7-11700K
As far as Intel 10/11 gen cpu's go the unlocked ones are becoming a thing of the past imo. Z590 boards w/decent VRM's don't come cheap not to mention those cpu's are power hogs.

A set up like this allows you to run that cpu with the power limits turned off in the bios. It's a round a bout way of OC those cpu's such as this one and that i5 11400F posted up above. It keeps the cpu in turbo boost mode longer.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asu...ie-40-sata3-2x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2-micro-atx
ASUS TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS £129.98

Intel Core i7-11700F £299.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scfm-2000-fuma-2-dual-fan-cpu-cooler-2x120-mm-hs-04f-sy.html
Scythe Fuma 2 CPU Air Cooler £49.99

A better look at that board.


As far as Intel 10/11 gen cpu's go the unlocked ones are becoming a thing of the past imo. Z590 boards w/decent VRM's don't come cheap not to mention those cpu's are power hogs.

A set up like this allows you to run that cpu with the power limits turned off in the bios. It's a round a bout way of OC those cpu's such as this one and that i5 11400F posted up above. It keeps the cpu in turbo boost mode longer.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asu...ie-40-sata3-2x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2-micro-atx
ASUS TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS £129.98

Intel Core i7-11700F £299.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scfm-2000-fuma-2-dual-fan-cpu-cooler-2x120-mm-hs-04f-sy.html
Scythe Fuma 2 CPU Air Cooler £49.99

A better look at that board.

This is the 11700F @ stock settings. Turn off the PL in the bios and expect a gain of 5 - 8 more FPS on average depending on the game.

 
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Maybe go with a AMD 5600x.
 
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Well...I am still stewing here with my Dell XPS 730x weighing-in at a cool 60-pounds and which I purchased in 2008. That's when I had the real money! Upgrading a 100% Dell propiatary case and MB is difficult to say the least. My trusty dremel although has helped on occasions to keep me going over the years and 'Windows 7 Ultimate' has held-up rather well. But now halfway through 2021 has me thinking and pressing hard to jumping into a new EATX set-up with my unruly sausage fingers. Any upgrading ideas? Probably not as the "Dell Propiatary Police" will not permit this too happen? Nevertheless any thoughts of wisdom for an old warrior with $4,000 burning a hole in his pocket and seeking to play "Metro Exodus" with max settings at 1440p?
 
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Well...I am still stewing here with my Dell XPS 730x weighing-in at a cool 60-pounds and which I purchased in 2008. That's when I had the real money! Upgrading a 100% Dell propiatary case and MB is difficult to say the least. My trusty dremel although has helped on occasions to keep me going over the years and 'Windows 7 Ultimate' has held-up rather well. But now halfway through 2021 has me thinking and pressing hard to jumping into a new EATX set-up with my unruly sausage fingers. Any upgrading ideas? Probably not as the "Dell Propiatary Police" will not permit this too happen? Nevertheless any thoughts of wisdom for an old warrior with $4,000 burning a hole in his pocket and seeking to play "Metro Exodus" with max settings at 1440p?

best to start the thread of you own

Thanks but now im comparing it to the cpus @BarbaricSoul recommended
and wondering do i need to spend more? I just want it for casual gaming etc :confused:


AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

or the

Intel Core i7-11700K

Price is great for the

Intel Core i5 11400F

The builds I posted and what Why Me is suggesting will play and feel the same when they are new. My builds will likely stay relevant longer as the CPUs are stronger. Kinda like how a 3570k is showing it's age, but a 3770k fairs better in comparison.
 
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5600x, MSI B550-A Pro, 2x8GB 3200c16 Crucial or something... Maybe new cooler and then a GPU down the road.
 
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5600x, MSI B550-A Pro, 2x8GB 3200c16 Crucial or something... Maybe new cooler and then a GPU down the road.
Seeing how Ryzen cpu's are more memory dependant I'd think 3600Mhz RAM would be the better choice for the 5600x.
 
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Seeing how Ryzen cpu's are more memory dependant I'd think 3600Mhz RAM would be the better choice for the 5600x.
If they are roughly the same price sure, otherwise crucial rev e kit you can just throw 1.4v at it and run 3600+ on a 3200 kit.. Avoid the cheaper Patriot and Team 2x8 and particularly 2x16 3600 kits, especially 3600 18-22-22 XMPs, those are rubbish and often don't even run the XMPs properly (yes really).

Also, they are not "more memory dependent", if anything they are less memory dependent but in reality it just varies by workload... Either way, a 10900k with a well tuned dual rank 4266 16-16-16 setup will smoke one with a 3200c16 XMP, like night and day, honestly it's bigger than the gap you can make with ryzen (32c16 xmp Vs 3733-3800 14-14-14 tuned) just because you are stuck on a lot of subtimings at around 3800 for frequency while comet lake you can just wang up the frequency all you like with the same subtimings. Then on top of that zen relies more on the cache to keep data locality, so less DRAM accesses at the end of the day, and overall latency is higher with IF compared to ring bus so the same latency gain between IMC and DRAM is a smaller proportion of the overall core to DRAM latency. The main thing with intel I'd that to run really hot memory settings you basically need a 2dimm motherboard, while just about any crummy AM4 board can run good daily b-die 3600-4000 with 14-14-14 or 14-15-14 primaries.
 
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If they are roughly the same price sure, otherwise crucial rev e kit you can just throw 1.4v at it and run 3600+ on a 3200 kit.. Avoid the cheaper Patriot and Team 2x8 and particularly 2x16 3600 kits, especially 3600 18-22-22 XMPs, those are rubbish and often don't even run the XMPs properly (yes really).

Also, they are not "more memory dependent", if anything they are less memory dependent but in reality it just varies by workload... Either way, a 10900k with a well tuned dual rank 4266 16-16-16 setup will smoke one with a 3200c16 XMP, like night and day, honestly it's bigger than the gap you can make with ryzen (32c16 xmp Vs 3733-3800 14-14-14 tuned) just because you are stuck on a lot of subtimings at around 3800 for frequency while comet lake you can just wang up the frequency all you like with the same subtimings. Then on top of that zen relies more on the cache to keep data locality, so less DRAM accesses at the end of the day, and overall latency is higher with IF compared to ring bus so the same latency gain between IMC and DRAM is a smaller proportion of the overall core to DRAM latency. The main thing with intel I'd that to run really hot memory settings you basically need a 2dimm motherboard, while just about any crummy AM4 board can run good daily b-die 3600-4000 with 14-14-14 or 14-15-14 primaries.
I'm not going to overclock or change alot that's to technical lol
 
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