Mining rigs hit the market in Asia

[Sybaris_Caesar]

Ah... so the newest fashion is actively trying to look like a bum now? So happy we have Linus to tell us what's streetwise these days
Or he dressed for the occasion...

If youtubers dressing smartly is like that Austin Evans guy I watched for the first time in new vs old PS5 temperature nontroversy, as a regular LTT watcher let Linus wear whatever he wants.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

My original post was just meant to inform about China actually selling off cards rather than moving their equipment on to other countries.
The fact is these are 3080ti's being sold on mass at ⅙ of market price here is a big thing. Also as I said these cards look well looked after no matter your opinion were not talking about some Rx 570 that's run non stop for years. These cards are reasonably new and will hopefully end up in gamers hands who can reflash them and have many years of fun past this chip shortage and market inflation.

 

[Rithsom]

That’s my opinion as well. Stick it to them wait it out and buy new. Leave them with their investment.

Precisely. Some users here completely missed my point. I'm sure that the cards are in great condition. People just shouldn't buy from miners based on principle.

A miner is nothing but a middle man who takes cards out of supply at times when gamers could be enjoying them. Yes, the miner might dump those cards later on for super cheap, but that still doesn't change the fact that miners collectively destroy the dGPU market in the meantime.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

So the choice in Thailand ATM is spend 3years wages on a high end gpu for themselves or a loved one or spend a few months wages. No they shouldn't buy one out of principal?

 

[Sithaer]

Precisely. Some people here completely missed my point. I'm sure that the cards are in great condition. People just shouldn't buy from miners based on principle.

A miner is nothing but a middle man who takes cards out of supply at times when gamers could be enjoying them. Yes, miners might dump those cards later on for super cheap, but that still doesn't change the fact that miners collectively destroy the dGPU market in the meantime.

When you are from a country where your average monthly wage is between 500-650 $ maybe you would think differently if theres an option to buy cheaper and still good cards or any hardware you might need.
Having 27% VAT on brand new stuff doesn't help either. 'you don't want to know what current gen cards cost here atm'
I bought that second hand RX 570 in 2018 September for ~185 $ and the retail price would be significantly more than that.

Don't get me wrong I don't like mining nor support it but I won't turn a blind eye on the option to save money for myself which I don't have much to begin with.

I already paid almost 400 $ for my current second hand GTX 1070 and that was actually a decent deal here, its not a miner card tho so theres that.

 

[Rithsom]

So the choice in Thailand ATM is spend 3years wages on a high end gpu for themselves or a loved one or spend a few months wages. No they shouldn't buy one out of principal?

I'd rather not buy a GPU at all, in that case.

We don't always need the latest tech.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

My rx 570 4gb cost $360 new here in Thailand from the most reputable pc component company in the country and minimum wage is $300 a month.

I'd rather not buy a GPU at all, in that case.

We don't always need the latest tech

eSports is just taking off here but let's not forget it's not always gamers. kids could need these cards for university and so on it's not always a luxury.

 

[lexluthermiester]

No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner

Why? You do know that the idea of mining degrading GPU's is mostly a myth, right? There is nothing wrong with buying a mining card as long as it has not been abused.

 

[Chomiq]

Ah... so the newest fashion is actively trying to look like a bum now? So happy we have Linus to tell us what's streetwise these days
Or he dressed for the occasion...

You have to look the part if you're giving handies in back alley for sponsorship.

Linus: miners are bad
Linus: here's how to mine on your GPU in spare time

 

[nguyen]

Yeah sure buy from scalpers and miners then when new GPU hit shelves, there are no stock
>surprise pikachu face<

 

[The red spirit]

You have to look the part if you're giving handies in back alley for sponsorship.

Linus: miners are bad
Linus: here's how to mine on your GPU in spare time

Linus will tell almost anything as long he has some sponsor. On that note, he wasn't always this shit with sponsor introduction. Here's Linus with sponsor in 2014:

And here's Linus with sponsors in 2021:

Also no merch shilling, just quick to the point, minimal unprofessional garbage, no homeless beard and clothing, frankly decent enough reviews.

And when LTT upped up their production quality for some special videos, we got gems like this:

Becoming content whore sucks, but pays well.

 

[Hardcore Games]

I have refurbished several ex-mining cards but then I put them to work gaming and they survive until a better card comes along

 

[R-T-B]

Precisely. Some users here completely missed my point. I'm sure that the cards are in great condition. People just shouldn't buy from miners based on principle.

A miner is nothing but a middle man who takes cards out of supply at times when gamers could be enjoying them. Yes, the miner might dump those cards later on for super cheap, but that still doesn't change the fact that miners collectively destroy the dGPU market in the meantime.

You act like you are making some big point. I can guarantee you the kind of guy buying that many gpus does not care. He's already reached ROI and at this point you are only cheating yourself. He'll throw them away and still buy next time.

Why? You do know that the idea of mining degrading GPU's is mostly a myth, right? There is nothing wrong with buying a mining card as long as it has not been abused.

Mostly. Treat it like a used card with possibly excessive fan wear. That's how I view it

 

[AsRock]

Those cards look pretty clean and I dare say are probably looked after better than the majority cards used by gamers, also with the current state of lockdown these cards running 24/7 with under-voltage and custom v-bios are probably in better condition than most cards at the moment due to gamers sat in their homes playing games in confinement.

Under voltage can do harm too, and tbh anyways i am not willing to bet my money on some thing that could of just been cleaned.

 

[R-T-B]

Under voltage can do harm too, and tbh anyways i am not willing to bet my money on some thing that could of just been cleaned.

I mean I'm not saying absolutely go and buy one... caveat emptor like all used goods. But I find calls to boycott something on moral grounds pointless. If you want a used card and are aware of what that means, I'd say consider mining ones too. But that's me.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Under voltage can do harm too,

Can it? I know it can cause stability issues and some artifacts in games and such when done poorly but I thought generally it was done to lower temps and prolong the life of the gpu/cpu.

 

[FireFox]

When you are from a country where your average monthly wage is between 500-650 $ maybe you would think differently if theres an option to buy cheaper and still good cards or any hardware you might need.

I didn't want to bring this up but i feel i have to.
A friend of mine who lives in a country where the average monthly wage is less than those amounts you mentioned he bought/owns an Asus Strix RTX 2080 Ti OC ( $1,100 )
That said, it doesn't matter where you live, sometimes you have to do sacrifices or give up to others things if you want to buy something, that always up to you.

Note: I'm not ashamed to say it but if i want to buy something for my Hobby ( PC ) i work extra shifts.

 

[nguyen]

I didn't want to bring this up but i feel i have to.
A friend of mine who lives in a country where the average monthly wage is less than those amounts you mentioned he bought/owns an Asus Strix RTX 2080 Ti OC ( $1,100 )
That said, it doesn't matter where you live, sometimes you have to do sacrifices or give up to others things if you want to buy something, that always up to you.

Note: I'm not ashamed to say it but if i want to buy something for my Hobby ( PC ) i work extra shifts.

My country average income is 180usd .

That said high end PC are much cheaper than going out for beer or smoking everyday, which the majority of young men in my country do. I consider myself saving lots of money and staying physically fit just staying home playing game instead

 

[Nuckles56]

A friend of mine bought a 1080 Ti that was used for mining. Performance was 10% below stock 1080 Ti perf in benches. We changed TIM, performance went up 5%
The card died after 3 months. After 2 months he got BSODs and game freezing. Underclocking helped for about 1 month, then the card died completely.

So yeah, I won't be paying much for former hardware that have been abused.

My 1080ti was a miner card too, I picked it up in late 2018, when the previous cycle of mining crashed. It was used for mining for all of 3 months in the end and went for a $600 discount vs msrp for the card. Considering it is still going strong after a repaste and pad replacement this year, I'm not complaining at all

 

[Sithaer]

I didn't want to bring this up but i feel i have to.
A friend of mine who lives in a country where the average monthly wage is less than those amounts you mentioned he bought/owns an Asus Strix RTX 2080 Ti OC ( $1,100 )
That said, it doesn't matter where you live, sometimes you have to do sacrifices or give up to others things if you want to buy something, that always up to you.

Note: I'm not ashamed to say it but if i want to buy something for my Hobby ( PC ) i work extra shifts.

That is doable ofc but its easier to say than done cause it depends on a lot of things in one's life and situation.
Right now I'm only working a part time job from home cause thats all I have for now and I can save about 150-160 $ a month for my own needs/hobbies.
So yea even this 1070 was a significant hit for me financially and the most expensive GPU I ever bought at around ~400 $.

I was raised in a way to save money if I can and even this ammount I spend on my PC raises some questions and whatnot. 'like was it necessary and why I didn't buy a cheaper one'
If I spent 1k+ on any hardware pretty much everyone around me would think I'm batshit crazy and need help.

Luckily I don't smoke nor go to pubs or whatever ppl do, I'm badly introverted and don't like irl activities with other ppl much so at least thats a save for me.

 

[freeagent]

Their power “shortage” probably isn’t helping matters.

I would consider buying a mining card..

 

[lexluthermiester]

Treat it like a used card with possibly excessive fan wear. That's how I view it

Most fans can be easily serviced. The ones that can't are usually sealed ball-bearing types and will not easily fail anyway.

 

[R-T-B]

Most fans can be easily serviced. The ones that can't are usually sealed ball-bearing types and will not easily fail anyway.

This is true. I was just advising a buyer what to be prepared for.

Honestly, recently, GPU fans have gotten a lot better. I don't see near as many failures. Maybe that's because I really don't mine anymore though...

 

[freeagent]

My GTX 580 Matrix Platinum spent a decade running, its fans are still good. From other manufacturers... who knows. I haven't had a GPU fan fail yet though.. but I do make an effort to keep things tidy, and I am a bit anal about airflow, and less so about filters.. those are for snapchat

 

[Hardcore Games]

My country average income is 180usd .

That said high end PC are much cheaper than going out for beer or smoking everyday, which the majority of young men in my country do. I consider myself saving lots of money and staying physically fit just staying home playing game instead

The dong does not buy what it used to thanks to inflation