Shadow Of The Tomb Raider - CPU Performance and general game benchmark discussions

[Lew Zealand]

You can easily boost fps by 5-10% by timingstweaking even if stuck at 2666. Do you know what ram-die you have? I have a i5 8400 with crappy Hynix AFR running 2666 13-16-16. Set volt to 1.4V. If you have Micron E/H or Hynix C/D/J I bet you can run 12-14-14 and Try getting tRFC down, get trrds and l to 4/4 or 4/6, tfaw to 16, twr to 12 or 10 and trtp half of that. Trefi as close to 65k as possible. If you have Hynix A/C/D/J try trfc 304, 312 or 320, if Micron try 384, 392 or 400. If you have Micron B 8gb try 256, 264 or 272 or Hynix A you can try 272, 280 or 288.

Undervolting you CPU will probably make it run allcore faster since you free up more pwr-budget. Try offset og -50 on cache and core, they might do a lot more. My 8400 do - 120 core - 160 cache.

I don't know what ram-die I have as every time I look for a tool, there are warnings that the tools may not be accurately reading the chipmaker. I'd certainly like to optimize those RAM timings as currently it's running at 2666 13-13-13-30 (it's a 3200 16-16-16-36 set) set manually but nothing else set up. Do you have an app/tool rec to pin down what I have, or do I need to remove a heatsink and look directly? In any case, I'll try out some of those timings especially if they're lower than my auto-set ones.

I don't need to UV the CPU as I just raise the power limit in Throttlestop and anyway, this CPU doesn't tolerate any UV it when run at all core turbo 4.5GHz. I game at full speed but when running something that does use all cores >90% (Handbrake), I use it at 4.2GHz with a -0.04V undervolt which saves some power (~115W vs. 135-140W) with minimal speed reduction. No UV tolerance at 4.5GHz ACT is just sample variation (maybe cheap Mobo, too - ASRock B360M Pro4), as all other Intel CPUs I've owned have UV'd very well but they're also all 3.8GHz and lower @act, including the previous i5-8400 in this same system.

 

[Taraquin]

I don't know what ram-die I have as every time I look for a tool, there are warnings that the tools may not be accurately reading the chipmaker. I'd certainly like to optimize those RAM timings as currently it's running at 2666 13-13-13-30 (it's a 3200 16-16-16-36 set) set manually but nothing else set up. Do you have an app/tool rec to pin down what I have, or do I need to remove a heatsink and look directly? In any case, I'll try out some of those timings especially if they're lower than my auto-set ones.

I don't need to UV the CPU as I just raise the power limit in Throttlestop and anyway, this CPU doesn't tolerate any UV it when run at all core turbo 4.5GHz. I game at full speed but when running something that does use all cores >90% (Handbrake), I use it at 4.2GHz with a -0.04V undervolt which saves some power (~115W vs. 135-140W) with minimal speed reduction. No UV tolerance at 4.5GHz ACT is just sample variation (maybe cheap Mobo, too - ASRock B360M Pro4), as all other Intel CPUs I've owned have UV'd very well but they're also all 3.8GHz and lower @act, including the previous i5-8400 in this same system.

16-16-16 usually means B-die, but a low bin Try for instance 1.4V dimm 12 12 12 24, tRFC 200, tfaw 16 trrds 4, trrdl 4, twr 12 trtp 6, trefi 50000+.

 

[Tanzmusikus]

@OICU812
You are right, SotTR benchmark is inkonsitant in FPS result.

 

[phanbuey]

you also may have something running in the background... whenever my fps varies wildly in sotr it's because windows search is trying to index while im benching.

 

[DanglingPointer]

After an upgrade to linux kernel 5.14.14 custom-optimised for zen3 (with GCC-11) and a slight bump of 25MHz to the all core clock to 4.65GHz. I'm now consistently over 44k frames rendered and averaging 295 FPS...
I'm looking forward to kernel 5.15.x release. AMD has put a tonne of optimisations and changes into the kernel for both Ryzen and AMDGPU kernel driver.

Something to note is that it is now 1% GPU bound!

[updated edit] - Using Mesa 21.2.4 - kisak-mesa drivers.

 

[Taraquin]

Impressive Linux performance. Wish we had Vulkan for Windows aswell.

 

[Keullo-e]

Everything on max and RT on medium

 

[DanglingPointer]

Impressive Linux performance. Wish we had Vulkan for Windows aswell.

GCC-12 is also due early next year. Would be interesting to benchmark the new linux kernel built with it, optmised natively for Zen3!

Also what I failed to mention in the previous post was that the Mesa video drivers were Valve's new kisak mesa drivers built with LLVM-13/Clang-13!

Would be interesting to see if the game runs any faster with a kernel built with LLVM-13/Clang-13 but unfortunately I run it on a workstation that doubles as a 24/7 lab server so can't run LLVM/Clang built linux kernels due to guest VMs not working with it. So stuck with GCC.

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

24.2c ambient, 30c water.

Able to match the fastest 11900k in HZD

 

[DanglingPointer]

Impressive Linux performance. Wish we had Vulkan for Windows aswell.

The game is still DX12 but translated to Vulkan using a wrapper developed by Feral Interactive to run on Linux. So there's that extra layer overhead. If the game was native Vulkan then perhaps it would be closer to what you see with mrthanhnguyen's results as he is also runing a 6900xt but a with slightly more powerful cpu.

 

[Det0x]

24.2c ambient, 30c water.

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Able to match the fastest 11900k in HZD
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Nicely done, welcome to the exclusive 353 fps club
Looking forward what you can do with Alder lake if you can get the block mounted

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Nicely done, welcome to the exclusive 353 fps club
Looking forward what you can do with Alder lake if you can get the block mounted

Nah, still cant find ddr5 to pre order.

 

[Det0x]

Nah, still cant find ddr5 to pre order.

Not the best specs, but in stock atm and ready for shipping atleast

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

http://imgur.com/a/tGpfjqK

 

[phanbuey]

Ddr4?

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Ddr4?

Ddr5 6400c36. Not even tuned yet.

 

[caroline!]

Meanwhile my 5700XT isn't able to get past 67 FPS for some reason and the game randomly crashes. Thankfully I got it as a gift because it's literally unplayable on my computer, reinstalled it, drivers, tried tuning, guess it's another green team exclusive. DX11 performance is even worse, tops at 32 FPS and the benchmark runs at like 8 in the Mexico scene.
Any ideas or is it unironically an nvidia-only game like Metro:Exodus Enhanced?

 

[phanbuey]

Meanwhile my 5700XT isn't able to get past 67 FPS for some reason and the game randomly crashes. Thankfully I got it as a gift because it's literally unplayable on my computer, reinstalled it, drivers, tried tuning, guess it's another green team exclusive. DX11 performance is even worse, tops at 32 FPS and the benchmark runs at like 8 in the Mexico scene.
Any ideas or is it unironically an nvidia-only game like Metro:Exodus Enhanced?

What resolution are you at?? At 1080P you should be getting north of 100 fps.

 

[DanglingPointer]

Meanwhile my 5700XT isn't able to get past 67 FPS for some reason and the game randomly crashes. Thankfully I got it as a gift because it's literally unplayable on my computer, reinstalled it, drivers, tried tuning, guess it's another green team exclusive. DX11 performance is even worse, tops at 32 FPS and the benchmark runs at like 8 in the Mexico scene.
Any ideas or is it unironically an nvidia-only game like Metro:Exodus Enhanced?

It's not a green team exclusive. It's on all the consoles which are almost all AMD hardware.

My benchmark screenshots have all been on a AMD 6900XT

Meanwhile my 5700XT isn't able to get past 67 FPS for some reason and the game randomly crashes. Thankfully I got it as a gift because it's literally unplayable on my computer, reinstalled it, drivers, tried tuning, guess it's another green team exclusive. DX11 performance is even worse, tops at 32 FPS and the benchmark runs at like 8 in the Mexico scene.
Any ideas or is it unironically an nvidia-only game like Metro:Exodus Enhanced?

There's a 5700XT in these benchmarks running on linux. Using a Feral Vulkan translation layer on top of DX12...

You can see the 5700XT on 1080p High with AA = SMAA doing 132FPS! So like what @phanbuey said, you should be well north of 100 FPS running natively with DX on Windows

 

[caroline!]

What resolution are you at?? At 1080P you should be getting north of 100 fps.

1440p but also tried 1080 and 720, performance always stays around those numbers, definitely not over 100 at all. I've disabled tessellation and set everything to low/off, apparently PureHair can't be disabled.

My benchmark screenshots have all been on a AMD 6900XT

Your card has raytracing but mine doesn't, it's the only thing I can think of. Everything else works just fine, even Skyrim with a ton of mods applied to it has decent performance. Been reading about versions and mine is 1.0.449.0 which *should* have better performance than the rest because it lacks Shituvo DRM that hogs resources.

What's funny is that performance in Low and High is exactly the same, looks like a hardware issue but I'm not sure what exactly is causing it. Nothing's overclocked, XMP enabled, PBO disabled. Maybe I'll reinstall the game again tomorrow, make sure even the savegame is gone, I wasn't even that much in anyway, just about 5%, random crashes are definitely worse than the crap performance which I'm used to since my old PC was terrible.

 

[phanbuey]

1440p but also tried 1080 and 720, performance always stays around those numbers, definitely not over 100 at all. I've disabled tessellation and set everything to low/off, apparently PureHair can't be disabled.


Your card has raytracing but mine doesn't, it's the only thing I can think of. Everything else works just fine, even Skyrim with a ton of mods applied to it has decent performance. Been reading about versions and mine is 1.0.449.0 which *should* have better performance than the rest because it lacks Shituvo DRM that hogs resources.

What's funny is that performance in Low and High is exactly the same, looks like a hardware issue but I'm not sure what exactly is causing it. Nothing's overclocked, XMP enabled, PBO disabled. Maybe I'll reinstall the game again tomorrow, make sure even the savegame is gone, I wasn't even that much in anyway, just about 5%, random crashes are definitely worse than the crap performance which I'm used to since my old PC was terrible.

Are all your power settings to max performance?

 

[Deleted member 202104]

1440p but also tried 1080 and 720, performance always stays around those numbers, definitely not over 100 at all. I've disabled tessellation and set everything to low/off, apparently PureHair can't be disabled.


Your card has raytracing but mine doesn't, it's the only thing I can think of. Everything else works just fine, even Skyrim with a ton of mods applied to it has decent performance. Been reading about versions and mine is 1.0.449.0 which *should* have better performance than the rest because it lacks Shituvo DRM that hogs resources.

What's funny is that performance in Low and High is exactly the same, looks like a hardware issue but I'm not sure what exactly is causing it. Nothing's overclocked, XMP enabled, PBO disabled. Maybe I'll reinstall the game again tomorrow, make sure even the savegame is gone, I wasn't even that much in anyway, just about 5%, random crashes are definitely worse than the crap performance which I'm used to since my old PC was terrible.

Here's one from the other thread:

2700x / 5700 XT / 1080p - High

Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark

SLI? I have AMD cards ;) Haha indeed you do! My last crossfire set up was 280X's, for the most part worked great but a string of 11updates broke it in Trine 2 (and maybe some others) and never got fixed I gave up and moved back to SLi. How are you finding your crossfire in todays games? I have...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Athlonite]

Meanwhile my 5700XT isn't able to get past 67 FPS for some reason and the game randomly crashes. Thankfully I got it as a gift because it's literally unplayable on my computer, reinstalled it, drivers, tried tuning, guess it's another green team exclusive. DX11 performance is even worse, tops at 32 FPS and the benchmark runs at like 8 in the Mexico scene.
Any ideas or is it unironically an nvidia-only game like Metro:Exodus Enhanced?

yeah that's really weird I had an non XT 5700 and it got way better than what you are getting so there's definitely something fishy going on with your card like maybe it's not actually an RX5700XT

 

[Kurt63]

Please forgive my ignorance here, but is this in the game itself or a benchmark I can download ?????

 

[DanglingPointer]

Please forgive my ignorance here, but is this in the game itself or a benchmark I can download ?????

actual game. It comes with a built-in benchmark to test your settings.