Intel LGA 1700 socket problem??

[Deleted member 24505]

Found this, its about the LGA 1700 CPU/socket bending causing bad temps. Pretty interesting. Glad i'm using the EK block with the pretty hefty EK LGA 1700 plate.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/bad-cool...cket-lga-1700-on-the-lane-among-all-remedies/

 

[Outback Bronze]

Ahh the good old lapping..

edit: no issues here even after using the old 1200/115x bracket.

 

[Mussels]

Holy shit


I wonder if this extends to other sockets, and why people have had various issues with cooling certain CPU's (think the 5800x, you add some bowing to the wrong side and BAM, furnace)

Edit: Ah yes i'm so glad AM5 is rumoured to move awway from PGA.... :/

 

[Yraggul666]

Holy shit


I wonder if this extends to other sockets, and why people have had various issues with cooling certain CPU's (think the 5800x, you add some bowing to the wrong side and BAM, furnace)

Edit: Ah yes i'm so glad AM5 is rumoured to move awway from PGA.... :/
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I was typing this at this very moment after reading the article a second time.

L.E: Oh and can you guess which board manufacturer is mentioned?

 

[Mussels]

I was typing this at this very moment after reading the article a second time.

L.E: Oh and can you guess which board manufacturer is mentioned?

We see Asrock and Aorus mentioned

He managed to cause (and fix) the problem on more than one board and manufacturer... which sounds like a major design flaw with the socket.

 

[Chomiq]

That mobo has a massive bulge for a new CPU.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

LGA is a pain, if any pins get bent at all!

 

[Yraggul666]

We see Asrock and Aorus mentioned

He managed to cause (and fix) the problem on more than one board and manufacturer... which sounds like a major design flaw with the socket.

Yeah exactly. That one was cheaping out again and on an Extreme mobo no less, but i didn't see Aorus/Gigabutt mentioned in the article.
It was maybe mentioned in the comments or reader's feedback or smth?
I expected that from the ASSrock but Gigagbutt used to respect it's Aorus branded products, i guess not anymore.

 

[Mussels]

Yeah exactly. That one was cheaping out again and on an Extreme mobo no less, but i didn't see Aorus/Gigabutt mentioned in the article.
It was maybe mentioned in the comments or reader's feedback or smth?
I expected that from the ASSrock but Gigagbutt used to respect it's Aorus branded products, i guess not anymore.

the final photos with the big fancy metal backplate and duct tape? everywhere are an aorus board

 

[mama]

Is this brand specific?

 

[thesmokingman]

Hmm so cliffs are Lotes socket is better but not perfect. Need a big ass backplate.

Is this brand specific?

More socket specific but some brands like to use the cheaper/softer metal socket, so keep an eye on both.

 

[Selaya]

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(think the 5800x, you add some bowing to the wrong side and BAM, furnace)

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the 5800x's a 12900K problem (far too much wattage stock because fuckyou, presumably), not a bending socket problem tbh

 

[Mussels]

the 5800x's a 12900K problem (far too much wattage stock because fuckyou, presumably), not a bending socket problem tbh

Yeah, got that covered with the edit to the post

This is a pretty big problem if it can bend and damage CPU's :/

 

[Yraggul666]

the final photos with the big fancy metal backplate and duct tape? everywhere are an aorus board

Roger that!
I didn't see it.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

My EK block uses a backplate that is very thick. When i changed my case i noticed my paste spread was really quite good so i am assuming that thick backplate helps.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Alder Lake CPUs common discussion | Page 15 | TechPowerUp Forums Post #261

You'll see I just did a test and the paste worked fine. That application was only small rice grain. The next application I did was a full line down the middle of the CPU for complete cover where I haven't had any temp issues since.

The test was because I'm still using the bracket off socket 115x/1200 and not the proper 1700.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Alder Lake CPUs common discussion | Page 15 | TechPowerUp Forums Post #261

You'll see I just did a test and the paste worked fine. That application was only small rice grain. The next application I did was a full line down the middle of the CPU for complete cover where I haven't had any temp issues since.

The test was because I'm still using the bracket off socket 115x/1200 and not the proper 1700.

This block is 1200 compatible, and this board has 12/1700 holes, but the new backplate was less than 2 quid so might as well use it.

You can see how thick it is here-

 

[Outback Bronze]

2 quid so might as well use it

ofc : )

 

[TheLostSwede]

Apparently there's a reason why no-one uses Foxconn LGA-17xx sockets at the moment...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Apparently there's a reason why no-one uses Foxconn LGA-17xx sockets at the moment...

what's the socket on the asus? Is it only Foxconn having a "problem"

 

[ir_cow]

Well I haven't used any aircoolers yet. Only EKWB blocks and a single AIO. Should look at the socket. Haven't noticed a bend besides normal amount every MB has from mounting pressure. That includes AM4 as well.

So far the two Alder Lake CPUs I have are super flat IHS wise.

 

[TheLostSwede]

what's the socket on the asus? Is it only Foxconn having a "problem"

I think you misread my comment. Try again and you might get it.
Lotes seem to be the main socket supplier at the moment, with Helm Technology being the other one, as in the pictures above.

 

[vMax65]

Using the Strix-A D4 and there is not much space around the CPU. My nearest RAM module to the CPU just got in the way of my AIO in the Corsair H150i. I could not get the AIO seated properly but when I realised what was going on I had to just move the module slightly to get the AIO on. Any RAM modules with thick heatsinks might be an issue though. No problems on temps and the H150i came with the socket 1700 bracket.

 

[elgato]

I was having issues with my MSI Z690 Edge Wifi DDR4, I7 system locking up.
After a lot of diagnosis the Motherboard became suspect.

This afternoon I disassembled the board for return and found this damage when I removed the CPU.
The CPU was gently dropped in during installation. Ran perfectly for two weeks with a Noctua NH-D15 cooler. Low temperatures and low watts. No gaming, just routine use.
I am well aware of how delicate CPU and socket can be. After gently removing the CPU I notice what appears to be socket damage. See pic. Are the socket contacts simply traces that can pull off a circuit board? Hopefully this is a one time defect but I have seen other threads questioning the design. Do manufacturers use the same vendor for the socket or do they make their own. From this experience it indicates that removing a CPU from any system that has been used a while could cause socket damage.

 

[Mussels]

Thats a horrible picture, but clearly damaged pins