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What's that? A f-ed up quad? :roll:
 
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^ uh, i think you got me wrong there..
 

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its not a true tricore, but then again the q6600 isn't even a true quad so we cant even call that a true quad thats been made into a true tricore rofl.
 

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its not a true tricore, but then again the q6600 isn't even a true quad so we cant even call that a true quad thats been made into a true tricore rofl.

lol...but point is if you have a bad core you can just disable that.
 

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This is a way for AMD to rebin all low speed barcelona's. Say you have 4 cores: core1's max is 3.0ghz core2 2.9 core 3 3.1 and core 4 1.8. What makes more sense to you, sell it as a 1.8ghz quad or 2.8ghz triple?
 

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This is a way for AMD to rebin all low speed barcelona's. Say you have 4 cores: core1's max is 3.0ghz core2 2.9 core 3 3.1 and core 4 1.8. What makes more sense to you, sell it as a 1.8ghz quad or 2.8ghz triple?

lol, even intel can do that. but seeing that intel cannot enter this market, it shows that amd is making true tricores.
 

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Correct, the point is that if it is that easy for my to do with with my motherboard's BIOS, I would think it would be pretty easy for Intel to do it with the processor. They have already demonstrated that they can easily disable one of the cores on their dual-core processors, so it probably is just as easy to disable one on a quad-core.

its not a true tricore, but then again the q6600 isn't even a true quad so we cant even call that a true quad thats been made into a true tricore rofl.

The AMD isn't going to be a true tri-core either, it is a quad with a core disabled.

Who cares of the Q6600 is 4 cores on 1 die or 4 cores on 2 dies on a single package? The effect is the same either way.
 

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The AMD isn't going to be a true tri-core either, it is a quad with a core disabled.

Who cares of the Q6600 is 4 cores on 1 die or 4 cores on 2 dies on a single package? The effect is the same either way.

you get better performance with a true quad theoretically and the barcelona is kicking the crap out of xeons atm.



barcelona on the left, the true quad, everything on one die. c2q on the right, 2 c2d's strapped together on a single chip.

oh and if the amd tricores are a quad with a core disabled why cant intel do that?
 

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you get better performance with a true quad theoretically and the barcelona is kicking the crap out of xeons atm.

oh and if the amd tricores are a quad with a core disabled why cant intel do that?

I'm not seeing barcelona kicking the crap out of xeons. The numbers I am seeing show them about equal, if not the xeon is actually performing better, it is rather disappointing.

People only say "theoretically" when they know it isn't true in practice.
 

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Correct, the point is that if it is that easy for my to do with with my motherboard's BIOS, I would think it would be pretty easy for Intel to do it with the processor. They have already demonstrated that they can easily disable one of the cores on their dual-core processors, so it probably is just as easy to disable one on a quad-core.



The AMD isn't going to be a true tri-core either, it is a quad with a core disabled.

Who cares of the Q6600 is 4 cores on 1 die or 4 cores on 2 dies on a single package? The effect is the same either way.
They will do both

Make real 3 core chips and bin down quad core chips.

I'm not seeing barcelona kicking the crap out of xeons. The numbers I am seeing show them about equal, if not the xeon is actually performing better, it is rather disappointing.

People only say "theoretically" when they know it isn't true in practice.

Are we saying 2.0 Vs 3.0Ghz ?

I havent read up on them alot.
 

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I'm not seeing barcelona kicking the crap out of xeons. The numbers I am seeing show them about equal, if not the xeon is actually performing better, it is rather disappointing.

People only say "theoretically" when they know it isn't true in practice.

Are we saying 2.0 Vs 3.0Ghz ?

I havent read up on them alot.
 

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Are we saying 2.0 Vs 3.0Ghz ?

I havent read up on them alot.

Nah clock to clock. Barcelona looks better on the server said because of it's better FPU calculation and because it uses HTT. But Intel looks better on the consumer side because of it's basically better at everything except for FPU and communication.
 

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Nah clock to clock. Barcelona looks better on the server said because of it's better FPU calculation and because it uses HTT. But Intel looks better on the consumer side because of it's basically better at everything except for FPU and communication.

hmm, well barcelona is a server processor so why are we comparing it to the consumer side, it kicks the crap out of intel server cpu's and that is its battlefield. you look to the phenom for a true quad that will kick the crap out of c2q's.
 

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DM I must have missed the news post where AMD said they would make true 3 cores. To me that makes no real sense, as thats another redesign of the chip, another chip to produce, and sell. Is it possible that by true tricore they meant all three cores on one die?
 

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hmm, well barcelona is a server processor so why are we comparing it to the consumer side, it kicks the crap out of intel server cpu's and that is its battlefield. you look to the phenom for a true quad that will kick the crap out of c2q's.

Dude....look at K8 and the opteron versions...it's basically the same chips with a few different tweaks for the opteron. Also, it's not a big victory, it's more of like a Barcelona at 2 ghz performs on par with like a 2.3 or 2.4 some ghz core 2 quad. When Nehlam debuts with CSI....then the serve side will become much more interesting...but of course AMD is on top there for now.
 

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Dude....look at K8 and the opteron versions...it's basically the same chips with a few different tweaks for the opteron. Also, it's not a big victory, it's more of like a Barcelona at 2 ghz performs on par with like a 2.3 or 2.4 some ghz core 2 quad. When Nehlam debuts with CSI....then the serve side will become much more interesting...but of course AMD is on top there for now.

well if a 2.0 barcelona is like a 2.4 c2q, then we can expect the phenom to be loads better since its a barcelona thats optimized for consumer performance.
 

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hmm, well barcelona is a server processor so why are we comparing it to the consumer side, it kicks the crap out of intel server cpu's and that is its battlefield. you look to the phenom for a true quad that will kick the crap out of c2q's.

Because the server side and consumer side use processors that are the exact same architecture, and hence have very very similar results.
 

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you do understand intel sells celerons currently which are bad dual cores rebinned to single core with low cache correct?


AMD making tri core would be cool IF it meant no more single core chips, low end would be dual cores semprons and then mid was phenom X3 high end phenom X4




nothing new there you know WR cpuz clocks are made with quads disabled to 1x core correct?
 

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well if a 2.0 barcelona is like a 2.4 c2q, then we can expect the phenom to be loads better since its a barcelona thats optimized for consumer performance.

Ok...Barcelona beats c2d in FPU and system communications....crush the core 2's. Something like 30% better. But on the other side c2d beats k10 in Integer by about 30%. Then system communication doesn't have as big as an impact on the consumer side. Using consumer tests K10 has been shown to be a moderate 10% faster on the consumer side (vs. K8). Remember..c2d beats K8 by an average of 20-30%.
 
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Remember..c2d beats K8 by an average of 20-30%.

see now thats like saying K8 beats P4 by XX% hey why dont we compare it to K7 too?






Hey you know what else that means K10 beats K8 by ~30-40% :roll:
 

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see now thats like saying K8 beats P4 by XX% hey why dont we compare it to K7 too?






Hey you know what else that means K10 beats K8 by ~30-40% :roll:

Well....anandtech didn't do a direct comparison to an Intel chip, just a K8. And that's 10% better than a K8...not core 2.
 

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Well....anandtech didn't do a direct comparison to an Intel chip, just a K8. And that's 10% better than a K8...not core 2.

oh ok should fix that in your other post cause it reads better than C2D mate ;)
 

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