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[Keullo-e]

Some 5600 XT cards have only 64-bit memory bus. I have one of those unfortunate cut-down ones.

 

[DR4G00N]

Hmm... Are you sure that it's not a PSU related issue? Mine on the other hand definitely seems motherboard related. Fortunately (from what I can tell) there's no permanent damage ... as soon as I removed the modem, everything went back to normal.

Edit
And another thing ... could someone please explain me what's the difference between nVidia FX5600 & nVidia FX5600 XT? I tried comparing the specs of the two cards but alas couldn't find anything for "XT" series.

That was a number of years ago, psu was an Evga 1300 G2 which was plenty, still running this psu in the system I'm using right now so I don't think it had anything to do with it.
I think it was a fault of the northbridge because it failed not a long time after. Again, how it would cause the breaker to trip and not just shut the psu off I have no idea.

 

[Trekkie4]

NVIDIA NV31 GPU Specs

4 Pixel Shaders, 2 Vertex Shaders, 4 TMUs, 4 ROPs

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XT should simply have lower freq.

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

And too bad ... just earlier today I picked up Gigabyte GV-N56X128D-P, which is essentially FX5600 XT sold under "Gigabyte" brand. However, I remember my own Abit Siluro FX5600 from back in a day, which was definitely "authentic" FX5600, not the XT one (as you can tell from the photo, below) so I was hoping to find out what was the difference between the two.

Some 5600 XT cards have only 64-bit memory bus. I have one of those unfortunate cut-down ones.

According to Gigabyte's official website, N56X128D-P features 128bit memory bus so I'm among the luckier ones, I guess. That is, assuming the card even works ... I have no idea, didn't have the time to test it yet.

That was a number of years ago, psu was an Evga 1300 G2 which was plenty, still running this psu in the system I'm using right now so I don't think it had anything to do with it.
I think it was a fault of the northbridge because it failed not a long time after. Again, how it would cause the breaker to trip and not just shut the psu off I have no idea.

Right, I understand but there had to be something with the power supply because for the motherboard to trip your circuit breaker, the problem would need to show itself through the power supply, that's the only common point with the household electricity. Either it was drawing too much amps, OR there was a short somewhere.

 

[Keullo-e]

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

And too bad ... just earlier today I picked up Gigabyte GV-N56X128D-P, which is essentially FX5600 XT sold under "Gigabyte" brand. However, I remember my own Abit Siluro FX5600 from back in a day, which was definitely "authentic" FX5600, not the XT one (as you can tell from the photo, below) so I was hoping to find out what was the difference between the two.



According to Gigabyte's official website, N56X128D-P features 128bit memory bus so I'm among the luckier ones, I guess. That is, assuming the card even works ... I have no idea, didn't have the time to test it yet.

Yeah, that Gigabyte looks like a 128-bit version as I searched pics of that model. Here's my 64-bit PNY:

 

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Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

And too bad ... just earlier today I picked up Gigabyte GV-N56X128D-P, which is essentially FX5600 XT sold under "Gigabyte" brand. However, I remember my own Abit Siluro FX5600 from back in a day, which was definitely "authentic" FX5600, not the XT one (as you can tell from the photo, below) so I was hoping to find out what was the difference between the two.



According to Gigabyte's official website, N56X128D-P features 128bit memory bus so I'm among the luckier ones, I guess. That is, assuming the card even works ... I have no idea, didn't have the time to test it yet.

This one (from 2005 pictures) is your one from back in the days? Because I see that uses 5ns memory modules (rated at 200MHz), instead of 4ns (250MHz), so it also seems to be some kind of slightly cut down version
Maybe it was 256MB? Sometimes vendors used to double to memory amount and "compensate" with slower modules

 

[Trekkie4]

This one (from 2005 pictures) is your one from back in the days? Because I see that uses 5ns memory modules (rated at 200MHz), instead of 4ns (250MHz), so it also seems to be some kind of slightly cut down version
Maybe it was 256MB? Sometimes vendors used to double to memory amount and "compensate" with slower modules

Yup, that's the one. Abit Siluro FX5600 ... it was my first major hardware upgrade, going from Matrox Millennium G450 to FX5600

From what I remember yes, it had 256MB of VRAM. That being said, I honestly don't remember for sure. It's been ages since I sold this card, after having multiple overheating incidents. It hasn't been overclocked or anything like that, all stock. But that tiny cooler could barely keep the card running & kept seizing up. In fact, I had the first cooler replaced under warranty, while the second one (this one, from the photo) was done by myself & once the warranty expired.

 

[Keullo-e]

Yup, that's the one. Abit Siluro FX5600 ... it was my first major hardware upgrade, going from Matrox Millennium G450 to FX5600

From what I remember yes, it had 256MB of VRAM. That being said, I honestly don't remember for sure. It's been ages since I sold this card, after having multiple overheating incidents. It hasn't been overclocked or anything like that, all stock. But that tiny cooler could barely keep the card running & kept seizing up. In fact, I had the first cooler replaced under warranty, while the second one (this one, from the photo) was done by myself & once the warranty expired.

Those were the days of aftermarket GPU coolers.. almost every card had pure crap as a stock cooler.

 

[Trekkie4]

Those were the days of aftermarket GPU coolers.. almost every card had pure crap as a stock cooler.

Sooo true!!

By the way, I realize that the original cooler from Abit probably seems huge but it really wasn't. After you removed the top panel, metal shroud you could see the actual heatsink under, which was no bigger than factory NB chipset cooler, with the small (30x30?) fan mounted on top of it. Everything else was just a gimmick to make it look better.

 

[Keullo-e]

Sooo true!!

What you said above about FX 5600 overheating, I got actually a minor burn from GF4 Ti 4200's stock cooler (it was actually an Abit card too), IIRC I put a NV Silencer for it and that removed that problem. It was this card, a 4200-8X 128MB:

 

[Trekkie4]

What you said above about FX 5600 overheating, I got actually a minor burn from GF4 Ti 4200's stock cooler (it was actually an Abit card too), IIRC I put a NV Silencer for it and that removed that problem. It was this card, a 4200-8X 128MB:

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Yeah, apparently Abit had some QC issues all around. From overheating video cards to their motherboards & (in)famous capacitor plague

 

[Keullo-e]

Yeah, apparently Abit had some QC issues all around. From overheating video cards to their motherboards & (in)famous capacitor plague

Though their products were great for overclocking even with those flaws. I had a KT7A (VIA KT133A) board back then and Athlon 1000 @ 1404MHz as CPU.

 

[Greenslade]

Dell Dimension 9100 Tower Computer would it be posible to put Wondpws 98 pn this?Or would i need an older PC?The proce is 50 pounds with shipping make an offer .The seller does not say what cartd is in it.
VGC Visually and electronically, Vast scope for upgrade, Running Windows 8.1
Processor:
Intel Pentium R 3.28ghz
RAM Size:4 GB
Workstation
The sp[ec sheet looks good for it;

 

[Keullo-e]

Dell Dimension 9100 Tower Computer would it be posible ro put Wondpws 98 pn this?OPr would o need an older PC?The proce is 50 pounds with shipping make an offer .The seller boes not say what cartd is in it.
VGC Visually and electronically, Vast scope for upgrade, Running Windows 8.1 although is capable of ”VGC
Processor:
Intel Pentium R 3.28ghz
RAM Size:4 GB
Workstation
The sp[ec sheet looks good for it;

Could work, but I'd have 512MB max with Win98, it needs tweaking for more RAM or otherwise it starts to freak out.

But hard to say about the compatibility for sure, I'd put a GeForce 6 series card for it as it's the last to have a native Win98 support.

 

[Greenslade]

Could work, but I'd have 512MB max with Win98, it needs tweaking for more RAM or otherwise it starts to freak out.

But hard to say about the compatibility for sure, I'd put a GeForce 6 series card for it as it's the last to have a native Win98 support.

So it would be to powerful for Windows 98 I thought it would be. It looks a good machine for XP though.Thanks again.I see ir can work with a minimum of 512mb.

 

[Keullo-e]

So it would be to popwerful for Windows 98 I thought it would be. It looks a good machine for XP though.Thanks again.I see ir can work with a minimum of 512mb.

Just get 2x256MB DDR2 sticks and it should work (what I searched, it uses DDR2).

 

[Greenslade]

Just get 2x256MB DDR2 sticks and it should work (what I searched, it uses DDR2).

I will have to work our how to get Windows 98 on my HP 5710 thin clint ,ir want be easy. Thanks once again for your output on this.Lenne

 

[Mussels]

My first PC used that era hardware, Pentium 90Mhz with 16MB EDO RAM and a something GPU with socketed VRAM you could theoretically upgrade

As for the too-fast-for-98 PC, just heckin try every OS from the era. 98SE, ME, NT, 2K XP etc.

2K might make a fantastic OS choice, as long as you keep it offline/work with its security limitations

 

[lexluthermiester]

Dell Dimension 9100 Tower Computer would it be posible to put Wondpws 98 pn this?Or would i need an older PC?The proce is 50 pounds with shipping make an offer .The seller does not say what cartd is in it.
VGC Visually and electronically, Vast scope for upgrade, Running Windows 8.1
Processor:
Intel Pentium R 3.28ghz
RAM Size:4 GB
Workstation
The sp[ec sheet looks good for it;

Yes. But...

Could work, but I'd have 512MB max with Win98, it needs tweaking for more RAM or otherwise it starts to freak out.

But hard to say about the compatibility for sure, I'd put a GeForce 6 series card for it as it's the last to have a native Win98 support.

...this! However, if you used Windows ME(don't scoff, properly configured WinME runs like a dream) you could use upto 2GB without any stability issues.

So it would be to powerful for Windows 98 I thought it would be. It looks a good machine for XP though.Thanks again.I see ir can work with a minimum of 512mb.

Oh yeah, it'd be a rockin Win98SE/WinME machine!

 

[Greenslade]

No problem. I have no idea, I'd guess that it's just a generic case and could have anything inside of it.


edit: Now let's put together a XP/7 dual-boot system as I have a spare case and PSU. Xeon X3230 (similar to Q6700), P5Q Pro, 8GB DDR2-800 & HD 7850 1GB.
edit2: I'll put two systems as I have enough hardware. Xeon, 8GB & HD 4890 CF (for Win7), and 955 BE, 4GB & HD 7850 (for XP).

One thing for sure the person who is selling it isnt going to get back to me.I proberly asked to many questions about the PC.One wants to know what is inside it beforer they buy it..

Yes. But...

...this! However, if you used Windows ME(don't scoff, properly configured WinME runs like a dream) you could use upto 2GB without any stability issues.

Oh yeah, it'd be a rockin Win98SE/WinME machine!

One thing for sure the person who is selling it isnt going to get back to me.I proberly asked to many questions about the PC.One wants to know what is inside it beforer they buy it..

I just saw this video about Windows ME by our friend Clinr

and he mentions all though it has MS dos you have to do a lot to get it runnung with and still does not work as in
Windows 98.

My first PC used that era hardware, Pentium 90Mhz with 16MB EDO RAM and a something GPU with socketed VRAM you could theoretically upgrade

As for the too-fast-for-98 PC, just heckin try every OS from the era. 98SE, ME, NT, 2K XP etc.

2K might make a fantastic OS choice, as long as you keep it offline/work with its security limitations

I thought Windows 200 was just for business users?I haver got xp .I wanr Windows 98 for games.

Yes. But...

...this! However, if you used Windows ME(don't scoff, properly configured WinME runs like a dream) you could use upto 2GB without any stability issues.

Oh yeah, it'd be a rockin Win98SE/WinME machine!

How does this compare to the Dimension 9100 wich one is best?The Dell only has Pentium 4 3.28ghz the Dell is 20 pounds more.Ther Dell looks a better machine with thje tooles cvonstuction bit the Q6600 is better than the Pentium 4
Acer Aspire M3640 Desktop PC with Intel Core 2 Q6600

• Acer Motherboard for Aspire M3640, mATX MSI N1996 LGA775
• Q6600 quad core processer - although this is old (from 2008) it still works fine
• 3GB DDR2 RAM - a 2GB stick and a 1 GB stick
• DVD-RW Drive
• Card Reader - great if you have old camera equipment for example

No working graphics card included but processor has integrated graphics. There are HDMI, VGA and DVI outputs - I've been able to test both HDMI and VGA work. * Additionally I have the original Graphics card which is an NVIDIA Geforce 8600 GS but it is not functioning due to blown capacitors. It may be possible to get this working again if you have a soldering iron and know what you're doing. I would be happy to include this if desired. It would be nice if they showed a photo of the inside of it.The price for this is 25 poinds i would have to collect it..I can all so seeing it running.Would this go well with 98 or ME or 2000 i wpild preer 98.

 

[Keullo-e]

2000 was indeed for professional use, but XP is actually a 2000 derivative.

 

[DR4G00N]

Got this in the mail today, Slot A system. Athlon 700MHz Thunderbird & Shuttle AI61.

Paid $25 shipped as tested not working, first time booting it up it just gave continuous fast beeps from the speaker. Figured I'd try reflashing the bios just to see and believe it or not it booted up just fine afterwards.
I'd say that was $25 well spent, I just bought it as a collectible since it was very cheap and didn't expect it to actually work.

I guess this means I need to go build a GFD now, luckily there's plenty of user made ones floating around now so that shouldn't be too hard.

 

[Greenslade]

I habe jusr seen a Dell dimension e520 with a moniter fort only 10 poinds And i could see it working. but inforunatly it is our of my area.That would be a bargin if ir was in london.Facebook market place.

 

[oobymach]

I used to have one of those dells. (click to enlarge)

 

[Greenslade]

I used to have one of those dells. (click to enlarge)

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That looks a bit dusty on the outside but dust free insideI I have seen another one on a new site SHPOCK i tried to make an account but it said my phone number might not be valid?Has anyone heard of this make. Midion cybermaxx. ? Pentium 4 3ghz 512MB Ram pc tower NO HARD DRIVE.That looks dusty on there.
I take it would have to be an ide drive? Ir could i use a CF card? Ir would be ideale for Win 98.
Belkin wireless 54 MBPS adapter All working - no hard drive
NVidia GeForce FX5200. £20 pounds on face book.I bet it weighs a ton though. As i would have to collect it
from the other side of London.I don,t drive so have to use public transport.Goes it take a normal sized PSU?

 

[Keullo-e]

I guess getting an old HDD isn't a hard thing to do. I have too many small drives lying around myself.