• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

The MPS bug on AMD motherboards NEVER ends!

Joined
Aug 11, 2021
Messages
48 (0.05/day)
Location
Wuhan,China
In 2021, ComputerBase reported that WD SN850 had a low speed on M.2 slots from AMD X570 PCH. It turned out that there was a limit at 128-bytes for Maximum Payload Size (MPS) on AMD X570 MBs and SN850 suffered from it. WD fixed the bug for SN850 in that time.

But a thread on NGA forum shows that things don't end so easily.

In that thread, the poster said that not only X570, but B550 MBs have the same bug as well. The poster used a Hynix PE6031 3.2T on MSI MPG B550 Gaming carbon WIFI's PCH (I get these models from his/her pc components list) and it suffered a seq. write speed downgrade ( just like what SN850 did on X570 PCH ) about 800MB/s.

In another thread on NGA forum another user told why things happen: the MPS on AMD PCHs is limited to the lowest one. And since the MPS of Intel AX210 Wi-Fi card is just 128-bytes, most AMD MBs with Wi-Fi 6 have the problem with some NVMe SSDs.

The list of affected SSDs have known includes Samsung 970 EVO PLUS (older version) , WD SN850/SN750, Zhitai TiPro7000, Hynix PE6031. WD and Zhitai update FWs for SN850 and TiPro7000 to fix the bug, but the poster said that a newer version of SN850 had the same bug again.

Things would only end after AMD fixes the MPS limit rules or ALL SSD manufactuers affected upgrade FWs for their SSDs. But the latter will never come ture becasue the list may be too long and some SSDs have lower seq. write speed are for DC/enterprise use.

So AMD should launch a new PCH driver to fix it soon.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 3, 2022
Messages
33 (0.05/day)
Processor Ryzen 3600 (will be upgraded soon)
Motherboard Asus Pro Art X570 Creator WiFi + Mellanox ConnectX-3 40Gbe NIC (@PCIE 3.0 x8)
Cooling 240mm AIO
Memory 2x32GB KSM32ED8/32HC
Video Card(s) Radeon PRO WX 2100 (@ PCIe 3.0 x4)
Storage HDD: 5x 4TB HGST (via Adaptec ASR-71605) / NVME: 500GB+1TB+2TB Samsung 980 Pro (@PCIe 4.0 x4 each)
Display(s) 1080p/50Hz vertical + 4K/50Hz 27" horizontal
Case modified Phobya WaCoolT UltraBig
Power Supply RM850x
Software Devuan Linux (Chimaera)
Are you sure this is a firmware-fixable issue?
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2021
Messages
2,706 (3.05/day)
Location
Knoxville, TN, USA
System Name Work Computer | Unfinished Computer
Processor Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi
Cooling A fan? | Truly Custom Loop
Memory 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26
Video Card(s) Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE
Storage Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD
Display(s) 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD
Case Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400
Power Supply Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W
Mouse Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD
To clarify, this does not affect direct-to-cpu (aka fastest) M.2 slot?

Also, does this affect drives of all speeds, or just the fastest ones?
 
Joined
Aug 11, 2021
Messages
48 (0.05/day)
Location
Wuhan,China
To clarify, this does not affect direct-to-cpu (aka fastest) M.2 slot?

Also, does this affect drives of all speeds, or just the fastest ones?

Yes, things only go wrong on AMD chipsets.
I think just some particular NVMe SSDs are affected by a low MPS limit, regardless of speed essentially. But only faster types show the downgrade clearly.
 
Top