Bringing the Socket A back to life.

Woah Mama! · Oct 4, 2007

So here is the goal, next week I plan to spend $200 AUD to get my Athlon XP Barton a new home (its 3rd home now :banghead:

) and a nice shiny graphics card to replace my somehow deformed 9600Pro which has been causing my latest gaming troubles.
Right now this backup system I am on is driving me insane, it's capped to 1.1ghz CPU and I only have a lousy 9550 256mb which according to ATItool runs 250/200mhz respectively :shadedshu

So, the components are; An Axper VT600 K7 mobo and a Palit X800GTO 256mb AGP. You think that would be a worthwhile $200 investment to tie me over till I get my new 939 system sorted out? I would also consider the XpertVision X800GTO 256mb AGP, as it is about the same price. Not looking to break records, just play games like NFS Most Wanted and CoD2, DoW Dark Crusade etc. A mild overclock of my Barton 2600+ would be nice. Motherboard has an FSB speed of up to 400mhz so I should be able to get a little extra from my CPU as it ran 1916mhz with my Asus A7S8-MX with an FSB of 233mhz.

Doh! Please move to general hardware if possible, ta. This is what sleep deprivation does to you

von kain · Oct 4, 2007

ok 1 question are you a archaeologist?

Woah Mama! · Oct 4, 2007

No, I am in the process of moving house, rebuilding two Range Rovers, paying bills and using what I've got sitting about. Like I've said, I am putting a reasonably solid s939 system together but I won't get it over here for some time as it is at my mums in America. This is a cheap tie over.

DaMulta · Oct 4, 2007

Go with the HD2600XT instead of that X800.

It's to bad you don't have DDR2 because you could get a video card/motherboard/CPU for around that price in AM2.

Woah Mama! · Oct 4, 2007

I know, I hate DDR2 for some reason. Is a pain that pretty much every computer store I called around me looking for an Abit Av8 board originally when my Asus gave out, either didnt have any 939s, or they were more expensive then an AM2 setup.
$100 2600XT huh? I imagine that it will overclock better then a X800 GTO?

hat · Oct 4, 2007

It will be faster than an x800GTO stock, has DX10 and SM 4.0, although not sure about OC abilities. It has no PCI-E connector. I doubt an x800GTO can be overclocked enough to meet the performance of an overclocked 2600xt GDDR4.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102102

DaMulta · Oct 4, 2007

Well maybe not but then you would have SM3.0(And 4.0).

I had a X800 and a x1600. The X800 was faster, but I liked my x1600 more.

Yea you can find those HD2600 for some good prices if you look around.

Woah Mama! · Oct 4, 2007

Well I'm pretty much splitting $100 each way, my motherboad will be $90.50 so I have $109.50 for my new cheapo graphics solution. This is AUd and I dont want to screw around waiting for things to get shipped to me that are outside of Australia or that I can't just go buy for a similar price at the local stores in Penrith. In all honesty I need this to keep me sane. You can't go taking cars apart only a week before you are moving them to a new place.

LMAO, a random call from a mate just then yielded the results of him having 3 spare brand new AGP cards sitting around. So I'll grab one of those, just have to choose between spending that $100 on, either a sata hdd or a case/psu so i can send my TR2 back to Thermaltake for warranty. I have insomnia.

pt · Oct 4, 2007

the hd2600xt oc quite well

3991vhtes · Oct 4, 2007

w00t!! Socket A! :toast:

Feel free to come to my club house.

Woah Mama! · Oct 4, 2007

Thanks for the move pt! I'll probably keep building this up to run as a lan/server/internet mule when I get my new rig together. So it seems I'll be buying a HD2600XT for this later on, hoping I can find one for a reasonable price in AGP though.

hat · Oct 4, 2007

You need AGP?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129092

Better OC it to 900/1000

this will be more overclockable, it has the PCI-E power connector. It also has 512MB RAM which will help a little in DX10.

pt · Oct 4, 2007

hat said:
You need AGP?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129092

Better OC it to 900/1000

this will be more overclockable, it has the PCI-E power connector. It also has 512MB RAM which will help a little in DX10.

the xt will wipe the floor with that card, and has i said before, the pci-e is useless in this cards, and 512 aswell, since you won't be able to play in dx10 at high settings anyway

hat · Oct 4, 2007

Which XT? 2600XT? The guy said he needed AGP, and that's really the best AGP DX10 solution out there. I can't reccomend a DX9 card with all this DX10 stuff coming out...

pt · Oct 4, 2007

hat said:
Which XT? 2600XT? The guy said he needed AGP, and that's really the best AGP DX10 solution out there. I can't reccomend a DX9 card with all this DX10 stuff coming out...

there isn't a hd2600xt agp flavour? :wtf:

hat · Oct 4, 2007

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...69609639+106792278&name=Radeon+HD+2000+series
AGP HD2k series on Newegg. The fastest is a 2600pro.

With 512MB memory overclocked to 900 core/1000 memory it can't exactly be slow...

pt · Oct 4, 2007

hat said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...69609639+106792278&name=Radeon+HD+2000+series
AGP HD2k series on Newegg. The fastest is a 2600pro.

With 512MB memory overclocked to 900 core/1000 memory it can't exactly be slow...

oh, my bad then, then that's prob the better choice

Random Murderer · Oct 4, 2007

pt said:
oh, my bad then, then that's prob the better choice

no, there IS a 2600xt agp, just not on newegg. he's in australia anyway, newegg doesn't ship there, hat

Wile E · Oct 4, 2007

Random Murderer said:
no, there IS a 2600xt agp, just not on newegg. he's in australia anyway, newegg doesn't ship there, hat

He made reference to his mother being able to ship it to him from the US.

Random Murderer · Oct 4, 2007

Wile E said:
He made reference to his mother being able to ship it to him from the US.

he also said

Woah Mama! said:
This is AUd and I dont want to screw around waiting for things to get shipped to me that are outside of Australia or that I can't just go buy for a similar price at the local stores in Penrith.

Wile E · Oct 4, 2007

Random Murderer said:
he also said

Ah, somehow missed that.

Ketxxx · Oct 4, 2007

KT600 chipset = crapness. NF2 mobo only to do anything in the system justice.

AddSub · Oct 4, 2007

X800GTO AGP vs HD2600XT AGP

GPU comparison link:
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=521&card2=356

Woah Mama! · Oct 5, 2007

Thanks for all the replies fellas. All I'm after with this is to get it back and running. The X800GTO and the Gigabyte rip-off motherboard are the easiest/cheapest way to do it, not really after buying things from Newegg if there is a viable solution that would only take a few days to get to my door here. I meant going with Newegg if worst came to worse, by that comparison that AddSub linked to it looks like a mildly overclocked X800 would be fine for DX9 games like NFS Most Wanted, Dawn Of War etc like I referred to in my original post. I'll keep those 2600s in mind for a month or so when I'm building my DFI and end up buying more ram from NewEgg. Right now there are a few VisionTek X800s on eBay, I imagine that would be quite usable for awhile?
Like I said, need it all quick and am trying to limit the spending. Found out that those cards my mate has are a crappy Sapphire 9550 256mb which is exactly what is in this disturbingly slow computer right now, the others are a 128mb HIS 9500 something that is having some serious noise issues, and the other wasn't any better then my 128mb GeCube 9550 I have in a box somewhere.
I know the KT600 is an old chipset and that yes the equivalent nVidia chipset board would probably be better but I managed to run TDU & Quake 4 quite nicely with my VIA board, so seems good enough for now, once it gets the 2600 later down the track then I think the equivalent nVidia board would look quite sad as to my knowledge not many nVidia 512bit/DX10/affordable cards come in AGP?
Would an X800GTO be a decent DX9 card? I've heard good things about them but not too sure on the cheaper versions.

ex_reven · Oct 5, 2007

Woah Mama! said:
This is AUd and I dont want to screw around waiting for things to get shipped to me that are outside of Australia or that I can't just go buy for a similar price at the local stores in Penrith. In all honesty I need this to keep me sane. You can't go taking cars apart only a week before you are moving them to a new place.

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