Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[AusWolf]

It does technically have a service running for it. I have to use it for my RAM so it’s not stuck on “Rainbow Puke”at boot/restart it still defaults that until I boot into windows and the service kicks in and my colour does too. Now yes I don‘t need the program running(oddly last night because I was messing with some beta drivers and had some issue) I noticed my RAM wasn’t lit at all. So of course I fired uo the program only to find it was “broken“ now for some reason it’s grabbing it from Windows Store(not a big deal but odd)it did make fox it easy it just asked to repair it.
BUT it does leave a service running for the RGB

After having gone through all that with my last system, I made sure to pick some RGB-free RAM for the current one. Now, only my AIO pump has RGB on it, but it connects through an ARGB cable. I've had lots of trouble with MSi through recent years, but I'm so happy that it remembers my ARGB settings without the app running (even if it leaves it leaves it dark when booting sometimes for some reason).

One thing I hate about Aura is how it pauses whatever colour cycle you have chosen when you reboot the machine.

Hey since we are talking about RGB.. can I buy a 3 pin cable and connect my video card to my motherboard header and have it run with the board?

If your card comes with a standard 12 V header instead of a proprietary one, I guess so.

 

[INSTG8R]

One thing I hate about Aura is how it pauses whatever colour cycle you have chosen when you reboot the machine.

Hey since we are talking about RGB.. can I buy a 3 pin cable and connect my video card to my motherboard header and have it run with the board?

My Red Devil came with one which I assume for that. When I installed I was under the impression I would need it to change my lighting. Welp I had my pump/Res on my "last" ARGB. Long story short I HATE the 3 pin connectors and welp it's now a "2 pin" just like the other header on my board that suffered the same fate.
I don't "need" them tho I will kind miss my res lit up and matching. My CPU Block uses the 4 pin and works fine. But I have terrible luck with 3 pins...

 

[freeagent]

If your card comes with a standard 12 V header instead of a proprietary one, I guess so.

It has a 5v one, 3 pin.. my board has 2 of them and 2 5 pins which are 12v I guess..

 

[AusWolf]

It has a 5v one, 3 pin.. my board has 2 of them and 2 5 pins which are 12v I guess..

3-pin RGB is 12 V, 4-pin ARGB is 5 V, I think (don't quote me on it, though). Mixing them up can lead to massive damage. GPUs tend to come with proprietary connectors that need some looking into before messing with.

 

[INSTG8R]

3-pin RGB is 12 V, 4-pin ARGB is 5 V, I think (don't quote me on it, though). Mixing them up can lead to massive damage. GPUs tend to come with proprietary connectors that need some looking into before messing with.

Miy GPU just had a “regular“ 3 pin tho one end was “flat” like a power switch connector for the MoBø. More irony of the last post I broke the 3rd pin off the card installing it,,,I have absolutely terrible luck with ARGB…
Thankfully the RGB software for the card actually didn’t need it and I only run a fixed colour so only ever needed to run the program once to do it. I don’t need any fancy “sync“ options those cables are intended for anyway. Frankly until AM4 I didn’t have any lighting at all. None of my fans are RGB etc. my board is nice too it just has one little spot under the chipset cooler that well you can’t even see because of the GPU.

 

[AusWolf]

Miy GPU just had a “regular“ 3 pin tho one end was “flat” like a power switch connector for the MoBø. More irony of the last post I broke the 3rd pin off the card installing it,,,I have absolutely terrible luck with ARGB…
Thankfully the RGB software for the card actually didn’t need it and I only run a fixed colour so only ever needed to run the program once to do it. I don’t need any fancy “sync“ options those cables are intended for anyway. Frankly until AM4 I didn’t have any lighting at all. None of my fans are RGB etc. my board is nice too it just has one little spot under the chipset cooler that well you can’t even see because of the GPU.

I tend to think "less is more" when it comes to RGB anyway. My current system only has RGB on the AIO pump which is set to constant red to match the red LED Radeon logo on the graphics card, and it looks way better than my last system that had RGB everywhere, imo.

 

[INSTG8R]

I tend to think "less is more" when it comes to RGB anyway. My current system only has RGB on the AIO pump which is set to constant red to match the red LED Radeon logo on the graphics card, and it looks way better than my last system that had RGB everywhere, imo.

Yeah I can fit all my RGB into one pic. The card shows much whiter than it really is despite matching the RAM perfectly. You can see how much RGB my CPU block has you just need to look closely
I can totally take it or leave it but always just used Blue because I find it calming. I do kinda miss my Res not being lit having broken the headers the water would cast a neat pattern on my wall next to my case

Posted the rest of my setup for reference…
Edit: Actually the last pic was taken when my res was still lit you can see the pattern in the left corner of the pic on the wall.
i have had the idea that IF I can find the pin(it’s somewhere in my case) the actual header has plastic “guides” each pin cones through. Im pretty good at soldering so if I someday get motivated I could desolder the “stub” from the back insert the pin again and solder it back. It will be a little shorter but…I doubt I’ll make the effort but I think it’s possible

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah I can fit all my RGB into one pic. The card shows much whiter than it really is despite matching the RAM perfectly. You can see how much RGB my CPU block has you just need to look closely
I can totally take it or leave it but always just used Blue because I find it calming. I do kinda miss my Res not being lit having broken the headers the water would cast a neat pattern on my wall next to my caseView attachment 280524View attachment 280525Posted the rest of my setup for reference…

Yep, that's nice. Here's a few (not too high quality) pictures of what my PC looks like.

 

[Mussels]

One thing I hate about Aura is how it pauses whatever colour cycle you have chosen when you reboot the machine.

Hey since we are talking about RGB.. can I buy a 3 pin cable and connect my video card to my motherboard header and have it run with the board?

Because it's an active service, always running always using CPU time to send that animation
That's what moved me to open RGB, since without the optional effects plugin it only uses the hardware options - no CPU cost. No running services to cause issues.
(I ran into that conflict with the asus service and the crapware gigabyte installed with my monitor, erasing SPD from some memory modules. not fun)
Some video cards can do that (Galax) but not many

I had to clean up so much leftover crap after armoury crate, a clean install would have been faster

Some times its backwards and the GPU has an "out" not an in, which means connecting would be bad. Investigate.

 

[INSTG8R]

Yep, that's nice. Here's a few (not too high quality) pictures of what my PC looks like.

Other than the Red which iI ABSOLUTELY can’t do(just makes me “angry“) that’s a nice build love it’s pretty much completely black.

 

[AusWolf]

Other than the Red which iI ABSOLUTELY can’t do(just makes me “angry“) that’s a nice build love it’s pretty much completely black.

Thanks. I used to follow the general feel of the game I was playing with my last build, but thanks to the red Radeon logo (it's not RGB), I don't have a choice with this one.

 

[trparky]

How old is the paste?

Who knows how long the cooler has been sitting in the warehouse.

 

[Chomiq]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617826296717017095

Unlocked PBO and CO for 7000-X3D series.

 

[freeagent]

Is boost override included in PBO?

Technically you can adjust PBO and CO from within UEFI on 58X3D too..

 

[INSTG8R]

Is boost override included in PBO?

Technically you can adjust PBO and CO from within UEFI on 58X3D too..

Depends on the board I “can’t“.but my board has Kombo Strike with 3 levels like CO -10 to -30. I use level 3 no issue just better MT performance and lower voltage (-30)

 

[freeagent]

Depends on the board I “can’t“.but my board has Kombo Strike with 3 levels like CO -10 to -30. I use level 3 no issue just better MT performance and lower voltage (-30)

On my board you can set pbo limits under but not over stock I think.. I tried going over and it did nothing so I didn't touch it again. CO is active though, and it works.. probably like your kombo strike..

 

[Mussels]

Is boost override included in PBO?

Technically you can adjust PBO and CO from within UEFI on 58X3D too..

Not yet for the 5800x3D, I have the setting but its non functional

Doesnt mean they cant include it in the future, AMD do seem to like backporting features to keep their customers loyal

 

[AusWolf]

Not yet for the 5800x3D, I have the setting but its non functional

Doesnt mean they cant include it in the future, AMD do seem to like backporting features to keep their customers loyal

Options that are there, but not working... strange. Just like increasing the power limit on my 7700X. I wonder why these options aren't just disabled entirely. Placebo?

 

[Mussels]

Options that are there, but not working... strange. Just like increasing the power limit on my 7700X. I wonder why these options aren't just disabled entirely. Placebo?

Modded BIOS, i have them all unlocked and tested em all - many don't work, as they have nothing associated with them for this CPU in AGESA

 

[Vya Domus]

I enabled PBO on my 7900, I noticed one of the CCDs runs considerably hotter and at slightly lower clock speeds, actually it's one core in particular #5 which seems to get pretty hot compared to all other. This is kind of odd, anyone else with a 7000 series noticed something like this ? I also noticed windows seems to really like to schedule everything on that core, which is bizarre but maybe that's also why it runs so much hotter.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

I enabled PBO on my 7900, I noticed one of the CCDs runs considerably hotter and at slightly lower clock speeds, actually it's one core in particular #5 which seems to get pretty hot compared to all other. This is kind of odd, anyone else with a 7000 series noticed something like this ? I also noticed windows seems to really like to schedule everything on that core, which is bizarre but maybe that's also why it runs so much hotter.
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Compare the effective clocks. The thermal density is pretty high, so it wouldn't surprise me if the clocks being higher would keep that area hotter.

 

[Vya Domus]

Compare the effective clocks. The thermal density is pretty high, so it wouldn't surprise me if the clocks being higher would keep that area hotter.

Indeed the CCD that runs hotter also reaches higher clocks, the question is why ? Is one of the CCDs just better binned or something, it also happens at stock.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Indeed the CCD that runs hotter also reaches higher clocks, the question is why ? Is one of the CCDs just better binned or something, it also happens at stock.

Effective clock under HWiNFO shows the clocks that are in a P-state, which should mirror power consumption by core.

 

[Vya Domus]

Effective clock under HWiNFO shows the clocks that are in a P-state, which should mirror power consumption by core.

The cores in the CCD that run hotter are also using more power since they clock higher. It's curios that windows seems to prioritize that CCD first, also the hottest and coolest cores are on the same CCD somehow.

 

[AusWolf]

I enabled PBO on my 7900, I noticed one of the CCDs runs considerably hotter and at slightly lower clock speeds, actually it's one core in particular #5 which seems to get pretty hot compared to all other. This is kind of odd, anyone else with a 7000 series noticed something like this ? I also noticed windows seems to really like to schedule everything on that core, which is bizarre but maybe that's also why it runs so much hotter.
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There is a slight variance in core temperatures on my 7700X (between 83 on the coolest #0 and 92 °C on the hottest #5) in a random Cinebench run, but core clocks and effective clocks are pretty uniform.

I recall what you describe being mentioned in the 7950X review (link).

It's either something completely normal (mismatched quality among the two CCDs), or an error that AMD hasn't addressed yet. My bet is on the first possibility.

Edit: What I don't understand is, if there is a quality mismatch between the CCDs, then why do I see the two preferred cores on two different CCDs in the review? Shouldn't they both be on the better CCD?