5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

I can run Y Cruncher 2.5B, no crashes. Cinebench, any of them, no crashes. CPU-Z, no crashes. COD MW2 multiplayer, CRASH! I just don't get what I've done wrong. No CO on any core. PPT 120 TDC 80 EDC 110 boost override 125mhz. That is all I have done. Anyone got any ideas for me? I can get nearly 16.000 in R23, but I can't play my game. I understand I'm just annoying now, constantly asking endless stupid questions, but I feel I have no choice as I don't understand. Sorry.

OneMoar · Feb 13, 2023

cod crashes
game is broken

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

OneMoar said:
cod crashes
game is broken

I know what you mean. But the game hanging and rebooting isn't a standard crash for COD. Until I started overclocking, it has been pretty solid!

Chomiq · Feb 13, 2023

Blaeza said:
I know what you mean. But the game hanging and rebooting isn't a standard crash for COD. Until I started overclocking, it has been pretty solid!

Check event viewer for critical errors.

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

Chomiq said:
Check event viewer for critical errors.

No critical errors. Just the usual ones.

OneMoar · Feb 13, 2023

turn the boost clock overide off
it does NOTHING except add instablity in most cases
the problem is that at load it doesn't matter because it will never boost that high under the load
but when launching a program it MAY try and boost to its maxium where its simply not stable

cyx2111 · Feb 13, 2023

OneMoar said:
turn the boost clock overide off
it does NOTHING except add instablity in most cases
the problem is that at load it doesn't matter because it will never boost that high under the load
but when launching a program it MAY try and boost to its maxium where its simply not stable

Yesss. The COD stress the cpu all time.

Blaeza said:
I can run Y Cruncher 2.5B, no crashes. Cinebench, any of them, no crashes. CPU-Z, no crashes. COD MW2 multiplayer, CRASH! I just don't get what I've done wrong. No CO on any core. PPT 120 TDC 80 EDC 110 boost override 125mhz. That is all I have done. Anyone got any ideas for me? I can get nearly 16.000 in R23, but I can't play my game. I understand I'm just annoying now, constantly asking endless stupid questions, but I feel I have no choice as I don't understand. Sorry.

Turn off the boost. This game is unstable with OC.

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

Well I have since turned the boost clock off and R23 gave me 15,777. All cores @ 4600's and only 68C!
CoD now works without a hitch. So I'll leave the boost alone. Until someone knows how to have boost and for it to be properly stable.

Thank you @OneMoar @cyx2111 for the advice.

Chomiq · Feb 13, 2023

OneMoar said:
turn the boost clock overide off
it does NOTHING except add instablity in most cases
the problem is that at load it doesn't matter because it will never boost that high under the load
but when launching a program it MAY try and boost to its maxium where its simply not stable

Or it can try to boost on super low loads like during map change and then boom, black screen reset.

gasolin · Feb 13, 2023

not enough vcore or unstable memory

cyx2111 · Feb 13, 2023

Blaeza said:
Well I have since turned the boost clock off and R23 gave me 15,777. All cores @ 4600's and only 68C!
CoD now works without a hitch. So I'll leave the boost alone. Until someone knows how to have boost and for it to be properly stable.

Thank you @OneMoar @cyx2111 for the advice.

Τhe best OC @AllCores of 5800X its the 4.600@1.25V Offset (SWEET SPOT). Its 100% stable with low temps. I attach one excell of all OC tests for classic overclocking (ALL CORES)
The other way which does not kill the processor but you have to spend a lot of time until you find the volts its the Undervolt PER CORES.
Just hold the 1st method. 4600 @1.25V. Your score in R23 (15.777) is P.E.R.F.E.C.T.
If you play WARZONE 2 the 68C is good when CPU loading the main screen. Ingame with this OC i had 63-64C max.

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

I forgot to mention, this is a 5700X, in case you thought I had a 5800X, lol.

Oh yeah, I play multiplayer not Warzone. I'm mental and sprint at people with a sniper.

cyx2111 · Feb 13, 2023

Blaeza said:
I forgot to mention, this is a 5700X, in case you thought I had a 5800X, lol.

Oh yeah, I play multiplayer not Warzone. I'm mental and sprint at people with a sniper.

1 1/2 years I analyze and works on 5600X/5800X. I have not dealt with the 5700X atm. Finally your score and the temps its cool. Just check if you are stable. Run the OCCT for 1h and check for errors and check your temps. Use these settings.

Blaeza · Feb 13, 2023

I will run that tomorrow and find out. After a little while in cod 61C was the max it got to.

tabascosauz · Feb 13, 2023

Blaeza said:
I forgot to mention, this is a 5700X, in case you thought I had a 5800X, lol.

Oh yeah, I play multiplayer not Warzone. I'm mental and sprint at people with a sniper.

Not inconceivable that boost override alone could be the culprit, but then again if you're unstable at +125 with no offset then it's hard to believe that you would be stable at +0. For late prod Zen 3 the V-F curve is not that dramatic below 4.8GHz at the very least.

CODs have been very hard on GPU stability and mem stability since MW19, so check both your undervolt (if running one) and do some TM5 testing. It is a bit less CPU-bound on average compared to MW19.

MW2 isn't the most polished game ever, but at this point it's pretty hard to blame crashes on "game bad lol".

61C sounds about right, game is not so CPU-heavy, only shader loading is.

gasolin · Feb 13, 2023

ryzen 7 5800x, prime 95 small fft stable 77c 4525mhz dark rock pro 4, just under 850 rpm

blend 69c, under 800 rpm, offset 0.500volt curve optimizer -30, cpu boost clock override 50mhz (4900mhz)

aida64 cpu,fpu,cache,gpu (rx 6700 xt) 81c just under 1000 rpm

Mussels · Feb 14, 2023

Blaeza said:
I can run Y Cruncher 2.5B, no crashes. Cinebench, any of them, no crashes. CPU-Z, no crashes. COD MW2 multiplayer, CRASH! I just don't get what I've done wrong. No CO on any core. PPT 120 TDC 80 EDC 110 boost override 125mhz. That is all I have done. Anyone got any ideas for me? I can get nearly 16.000 in R23, but I can't play my game. I understand I'm just annoying now, constantly asking endless stupid questions, but I feel I have no choice as I don't understand. Sorry.

That's a simple one: turn the boost overclock off and see if the crashes stop
Theres no guarantees its related to the PBO settings

Random app crashes are far more likely to be memory related, tbh.

Blaeza · Feb 14, 2023

Boost overdrive is off and I'm just finishing occt 1 hour stress test.

Finished 1 hour occt test. Max temp was 65C. Effective all-core 4630mhz the whole time.

Mussels · Feb 15, 2023

Blaeza said:
Boost overdrive is off and I'm just finishing occt 1 hour stress test.

Finished 1 hour occt test. Max temp was 65C. Effective all-core 4630mhz the whole time.

That's a good result - my 5800x wouldnt do that without a curve undervolt, it sat around 4.4GHz on my asus board (the gigabyte board with its less honest wattages does around 4.5 stock)

izy · Feb 15, 2023

Blaeza said:
Boost overdrive is off and I'm just finishing occt 1 hour stress test.

Finished 1 hour occt test. Max temp was 65C. Effective all-core 4630mhz the whole time.

What speed is your ram at? My 5700x works with +200 boosts and curve but only 3733 mhz on RAM, CB 15850 and in games it turbos to max (4850 mhz). I think it can be some RAM related problem.

offtopic, go ask ChatGPT

Blaeza · Feb 15, 2023

izy said:
What speed is your ram at? My 5700x works with +200 boosts and curve but only 3733 mhz on RAM, CB 15850 and in games it turbos to max (4850 mhz). I think it can be some RAM related problem.

offtopic, go ask ChatGPT

3800mhz

izy · Feb 15, 2023

Blaeza said:
3800mhz

Go 3733mhz with boost see how it goes, 3800 is unstable for many people.

Blaeza · Feb 16, 2023

@izy On 3733/1867, 200mhz boost. Tried cod and numerous benchmarks, seems to be holding up.

Correction. Did not like cod at all. Now on 3600/1800 50mhz boost and it's okay.

OneMoar · Feb 17, 2023

semi on-topic @Blaeza
but it looks like IW disabled Multi Threading with the S2 update
would explain the extreme instablity with boost override on

tabascosauz · Feb 17, 2023

Blaeza said:
@izy On 3733/1867, 200mhz boost. Tried cod and numerous benchmarks, seems to be holding up.

Correction. Did not like cod at all. Now on 3600/1800 50mhz boost and it's okay.

Done any TM5 lately on these RAM profiles you're running? Event Viewer look clean?

OneMoar said:
semi on-topic @Blaeza
but it looks like IW disabled Multi Threading with the S2 update
would explain the extreme instablity with boost override on

You sure? Been monitoring HWInfo and so far performance, CPU load and GPU load seem unchanged in the S2 update. I never noticed either MW19 or MW2 to be super multi threaded during gameplay, beyond maybe 2 cores.

Except for updates and shader loading, which are all-core and have been happening a bit more frequently lately.

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