SSD Help Thread

[Sefeo]

Hi, I'm new and I need some help.
I recently bought this SSD from amazon

Crucial P3 Plus 500GB M.2 PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD interno - 5000MB/s​

(https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0B25NTRGD?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)​

for MOBA Asus z97-P, and after doing a little check to see if it was running at the right speed, with the CrystalDiskMark program, I got these results:

Also just today I noticed that my bios did not recognize the SSD, and in the info where M.2 is written, give me the wording empty, can it somehow affect the stability and any speed for the system and the SSD itself?
I kindly ask for someone's help to better set the MOBA or SSD settings in order to make the most of the read and write speed of this SSD. Thanks in advance to everyone!

My PC Settings:
Intel i7-4790k CPU @ 4.00 MHz
ASUS Z97-P
GPU Gigabyte RX 460 WINDFORCE OC 4GB
32 GB RAM
SSD Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB(quella in questione);

 

[P4-630]

You need PCIe 4.0 to get those speeds.

 

[DarkDreams]

As P4-630 said. Your motherboards M.2 slot is only PCIe 2.0 x2 whereas the Crucial P3 supports PCIe 4.0 x4. Hence you can only get 1/8 of the speed that the SSD supports, which seems to be what you have right now.

 

[Sefeo]

You need PCIe 4.0 to get those speeds.

So should I change motherboard?
Also if I took another type of ssd, third generation, for PCIe 3.0 would it go faster?

And that's why the bios doesn't recognize the ssd? Being a PCIe 4, is it not compatible?

 

[GerKNG]

you should return this SSD.
it has no RAM and is QLC... it will write slower than an SD Card after a couple GB. (50-70MB/s sustained)

 

[P4-630]

So should I change motherboard?

That would mean a whole platform upgrade, new motherboard/CPU/memory....

 

[Sefeo]

you should return this SSD.
it has no RAM and is QLC... it will write slower than an SD Card after a couple GB. (50-70MB/s sustained)

Which ssd would you recommend?

That would mean a whole platform upgrade, new motherboard/CPU/memory....

Yeah i saw it, I said something unthinkable

 

[GerKNG]

Which ssd would you recommend?


Yeah i saw it, I said something unthinkable

in your case a MX500 or 870 EVO (they write ~6-7 times faster than your current one)

 

[P4-630]

in your case a MX500 or 870 EVO

@Sefeo ^ A regular 2.5" SATA SSD

 

[Sefeo]

Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciated! I will try to make the changes you had suggested. thanks again!

 

[P4-630]

in your case a MX500 or 870 EVO (they write ~6-7 times faster than your current one)

 

[Sefeo]

Aren't they good?

 

[P4-630]

Aren't they good?

Crucial MX500 series with sequential read speeds of up to 560 MB/s and sequential write speeds of up to 510 MB/s for all capacities.

Samsung 870 EVO features the company's latest V-NAND and controller, allowing it to reach the maximum SATA sequential read and write speeds of 560 and 530MB/s

However be aware https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...ware-certain-batches-prone-to-failure.291504/

 

[GerKNG]

a P3 (plus) has a write speed of less than 100MB/s even with the 4TB variant. The SLC cache is tiny and the QLC nand is slower than an SD Card.
there are still enough people falling for the "sixty quadrillion petabyte per second" bullshit that is printed on the box... and there is a reason why the P3 costs less than a SATA SSD... because it does not even come close to one.

 

[SPDIF]

Your motherboard is to old and can't work with NVMe SSD. You can't boot from it, but can use it only as storage disk in Windows.

 

[Sefeo]

So, what do you recommend? I'm a bit confused

 

[GerKNG]

SATA Drives.

 

[A&P211]

I would go with a samsung 860 EVO, the 870 has some problems. Do not get the QVO, get the EVO model.

 

[GerKNG]

I would go with a samsung 860 EVO, the 870 has some problems. Do not get the QVO, get the EVO model.

depends on your region and the seller. (old stock)
Samsung changed to a different NAND on the 870 EVO on SSD manufactured after Nov. 2022.

 

[SPDIF]

The 870EVO is back, i didn't see any problems with the new ones from 01-> 04-2023, the problems are fixed.
They even have new firmware that is not available to anyone at this moment.

Another Good SSD is the Crucial MX500. I sold hundred's of them, none came back.
Cheap and good quality! around 60 dollar for 1TB Crucial SSD.

Choose an good brand SATA SSD like Crucial, Samsung or Sandisk, WD.

The 870QVO is a that slower and has less endurance.

 

[A&P211]

The 870EVO is back, i didn't see any problems with the new ones from 01-> 04-2023, the problems are fixed.
They even have new firmware that is not available to anyone at this moment.

Another Good SSD is the Crucial MX500. I sold hundred's of them, none came back.
Cheap and good quality! around 60 dollar for 1TB Crucial SSD.

Choose an good brand SATA SSD like Crucial, Samsung or Sandisk, WD.

The 870QVO is a that slower and has less in-durance.

I have the 870 qvo 8tb, I use it for storage only, its in a external case. It starts to throttle down to 150mb/s after 78gb of data written.

 

[SPDIF]

The 870QVO is a good disk for storage, internal or external. But still light speed faster then an HDD. External HDD is mostly limited to 80MB/s.
It has a slow write performance after SLC cache fills, and Write endurance is lower than 870EVO's TLC V-NAND. The QVO uses cheap and slow QLC V-NAND.
They both use the Samsung MKX 'Metis' controller.

So, what do you recommend? I'm a bit confused

Just buy an Crucial MX500 or an Samsung 870EVO and you are good to go. 870EVO is a bit more expensive and faster. The Sandisk Ultra 3D is the most expensive with high endurance and higher speeds. And a big DRAM buffer against throttling down. Off course, the 870QVO is also a good option if you want to keep down the costs.

 

[Sefeo]

Thank you all for your help, thank you very much!

 

[Klemc]

I wait an available 8Tb NVme PCIe gen4x4 available at 500 euros to replace a PCIE gen3x4 NVMe and merge all my sata SSD on it too (and disable sata controller in BIOS a tthe same time).

Crucial MX500 SSD 2x2Tb 1x1Tb // Pioneer APS-SE20G NVme PCIe gen3x4 2Tb

I see this QVO available but it's not cheap for only backup purpose.

 

[A&P211]

I wait an available 8Tb NVme PCIe gen4x4 available at 500 euros to replace a PCIE gen3x4 NVMe and merge all my sata SSD on it too (and disable sata controller in BIOS a tthe same time).

Crucial MX500 SSD 2x2Tb 1x1Tb // Pioneer APS-SE20G NVme PCIe gen3x4 2Tb

I see this QVO available but it's not cheap for only backup purpose.

This uses a TLC 8tb SSD. Its the same m.2 SSD that Corsair MP600 PRO XT and the SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus uses.

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