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[panchoman]

the pci slot cooler will help out greatly with video card cooling i believe. as for the cpu,
thermalright ultra 120 its brother(ifx) shares the crown for the king of air cooling with it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140. and you want to pair the thermalright with this fan:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220014
110cfm only 40 dba

 

[Atnevon]

What CPU cooling is advised for the E6750? Keep in mind it will be OC'ed.

In addition, is a PCI slot fan worth it for the video card? Or is it one of those functionless things?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223
is good. Seen plenty of people with it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
What I have. Love it, looks cool, cools well, and very affordable. I'd go with it if you were on a budget in a heartbeat.

I'd like to try out a PCI fan myself sometime, seeing I have a 8800GTX. I've yet though to have problems though. I would look seriously though if only you planned on overclocking your card. When I looked around, I really heard nobody mention them to me. Which must mean they may not be worth it.

 

[niko084]

I've posted this a few times hope it helps...Click here..!

The very last summary sort of sums it up..

Exactly look at it...
Quad core OUT PERFORMS Dual CORE at even a slightly LOWER CLOCK, IN ALL GAMES.

You just proved it..

Thanks now for you that think Quad cores are slower for single core games.....
They definitely are not.

You cannot compare a Dual Core clocked at 3.6 to a Quad core clocked at 3.0 in a application that only utilizes a single core.

 

[xazraelx]

Exactly look at it...
Quad core OUT PERFORMS Dual CORE at even a slightly LOWER CLOCK, IN ALL GAMES.

You just proved it..

Thanks now for you that think Quad cores are slower for single core games.....
They definitely are not.

You cannot compare a Dual Core clocked at 3.6 to a Quad core clocked at 3.0 in a application that only utilizes a single core.

Please god, you've managed to sufficiently annoy me to a point where I feel the need to post about it.

GET OFF YOUR QUAD CORE HIGH HORSE

We've covered the things I'm going to be doing, we've covered the differences, we've covered the overclocking differences between the processors. Look at the stock settings, what gigantic difference do you see? I see none worth $100 FOR ME. Now that I've vented, you must understand that I AGREE with you, 4 > 2. DOH! Basic Algebra. But I'm not talking strict performance here, so get off the damn horse and back down to our level, or go troll someone else's thread.

/end rant and apology for it

Will

Edit: And I CAN compare the two on a single-core game, since that's what I'm going to be freaking doing most of the time. I know you're literate, so display some understanding with the topics in question.

 

[panchoman]

lol its okay, we all need to vent sometimes, so you're going dual right?

 

[xazraelx]

lol its okay, we all need to vent sometimes, so you're going dual right?

Yep - I think I've convinced myself that if I want to upgrade in a year or so, I'll go quad. For now, I'm settling with a slightly overclocked dual.

 

[panchoman]

okay, fair enough. so what um is left to do ? post your updated build..

 

[niko084]

Please god, you've managed to sufficiently annoy me to a point where I feel the need to post about it.

GET OFF YOUR QUAD CORE HIGH HORSE

We've covered the things I'm going to be doing, we've covered the differences, we've covered the overclocking differences between the processors. Look at the stock settings, what gigantic difference do you see? I see none worth $100 FOR ME. Now that I've vented, you must understand that I AGREE with you, 4 > 2. DOH! Basic Algebra. But I'm not talking strict performance here, so get off the damn horse and back down to our level, or go troll someone else's thread.

/end rant and apology for it

Will

Edit: And I CAN compare the two on a single-core game, since that's what I'm going to be freaking doing most of the time. I know you're literate, so display some understanding with the topics in question.

Before you go off on me check yourself and realize I'm hardly trolling...

You among others simply said dual cores OUT PERFORM quad cores...
That is simply NOT the truth.

I can very much understand the idea that a quad for most people is very well not worth the extra money, I was not telling you to buy one, I was simply straightening out the fact that the Quad is faster period even if the program is only designed to use a single core.

 

[panchoman]

yo, just drop it niko.

 

[niko084]

yo, just drop it niko.

I didn't start anything, I don't have anything to drop, I was straightening this guy out on what I was saying in reference to the multiple posts I have seen here about how quad cores perform poorly on single core oriented programs. That is not true, and other lesser knowledgeable people here may read that and buy a dual core when they should have purchased a quad core.

Pretty simple...

 

[panchoman]

you're still not dropping it. just shut up and help the guy or leave. simple as that.

 

[xazraelx]

okay, fair enough. so what um is left to do ? post your updated build..

And accepting any *constructive* criticism (glares at the Quad Core Horses)

Case:
Cooler Master RC-690

Case Fans:
3x Case Fans (Yes, I know they're not the highest airflow...but I just love the red?)

Motherboard:
GA-P35-DS4

Processor:
E6750

Power Supply:
Corsair 620W

RAM:
Corsair RAM I changed from the Blue LED ones because these are cheaper and I'm not too interested in lighted RAM unless it's red.

HDD:
Seagate 320GB Cuda

DVD-RW:
Samsung

CPU Cooling:
Arctic Cooler

Graphics Card:
8800GT (when Newegg gets it - hopefully monday)

PCI slot cooler:
PCI Slot Cooler

Other things I have but not buying: 250 Gig IDE hdd and 80 gig IDE hdd. (Might just put the 250 in for storage)

I'll also be buying 2x MicroSD cards and an external card reader for them...Not sure what else I want to go ahead and order =/
I think that's it...

 

[panchoman]

i love the lanfest memory (blue leds) cause they are hand picked chips that are tested for really good performance, whereas with regular ram the chips might do great or not too great. and you gotta admit that the leds are cool! though the regular crucial memory is great too. the freezer 7 is a great cooler, but there are a lot better if you want to pay for better cooling. everything else looks good.

 

[xazraelx]

Well, I'm slightly confused with the hand-picked RAM. How large of a difference margin could we be talking here? If it's marginal to a degree, it's only a $15-$20 difference, but for $40 more, I could just get 4 gigs of the standard. Which I won't right now, so basically I'm just asking if the performance difference can be big enough to merit the extra $20. Also, the blue LEDs do nothing for me (my case doesn't have a panel on it at the moment , I might put one in one day down the road, but not now), so disregard that fact (though I do agree with you, lighted RAM = neat)

 

[niko084]

And accepting any *constructive* criticism (glares at the Quad Core Horses)

Case:
Cooler Master RC-690

Case Fans:
3x Case Fans (Yes, I know they're not the highest airflow...but I just love the red?)

Motherboard:
GA-P35-DS4

Processor:
E6750

Power Supply:
Corsair 620W

RAM:
Corsair RAM I changed from the Blue LED ones because these are cheaper and I'm not too interested in lighted RAM unless it's red.

HDD:
Seagate 320GB Cuda

DVD-RW:
Samsung

CPU Cooling:
Arctic Cooler

Graphics Card:
8800GT (when Newegg gets it - hopefully monday)

PCI slot cooler:
PCI Slot Cooler

Other things I have but not buying: 250 Gig IDE hdd and 80 gig IDE hdd. (Might just put the 250 in for storage)

I'll also be buying 2x MicroSD cards and an external card reader for them...Not sure what else I want to go ahead and order =/
I think that's it...

Nothing against dual cores buddy
In fact I have that very chip myself in a machine.

That build looks good and solid, great ram, good mobo, good chip...

 

[niko084]

Well, I'm slightly confused with the hand-picked RAM. How large of a difference margin could we be talking here? If it's marginal to a degree, it's only a $15-$20 difference, but for $40 more, I could just get 4 gigs of the standard. Which I won't right now, so basically I'm just asking if the performance difference can be big enough to merit the extra $20. Also, the blue LEDs do nothing for me (my case doesn't have a panel on it at the moment , I might put one in one day down the road, but not now), so disregard that fact (though I do agree with you, lighted RAM = neat)

If you overclock you WANT the Crucial Balistixs ram you linked to..

If you don't overclock at all, don't worry about it.

 

[panchoman]

Well, I'm slightly confused with the hand-picked RAM. How large of a difference margin could we be talking here? If it's marginal to a degree, it's only a $15-$20 difference, but for $40 more, I could just get 4 gigs of the standard. Which I won't right now, so basically I'm just asking if the performance difference can be big enough to merit the extra $20. Also, the blue LEDs do nothing for me (my case doesn't have a panel on it at the moment , I might put one in one day down the road, but not now), so disregard that fact (though I do agree with you, lighted RAM = neat)

well the last time crucial had handpicked ram, it clocked ridicously high, idk about the lanfest though. you do realize that the ram is cheap AFTER MIR, which you can only for once, so you'll pay full price for both batchs, and then get the mir for one of em.

 

[xazraelx]

Well, you've both convinced me The lanparty crucials it is.

Edit: And right now it's at $923.95, but I still need to order the 8800GT, and there are also $80 in rebates.

So I suppose we're looking at ~1100 USD. ($60 of that is the MicroSd and card reader)

 

[panchoman]

what was your original budget?

 

[xazraelx]

what was your original budget?

Well, the story is my old computer I built with an opteron 146 was valued at 1800 by the insurance company.

So I'm getting $1550 (250 deductible). My original budget was $900 because I'm giving the 650 to my dad since it was under his homeowner's insurance that I filed it, which he pays for - not me (I'm at college, and it covers it).

So, I'm still giving him the $650, just paying a little out of my pocket - which isn't too bad

 

[niko084]

Should be a pretty good machine

 

[panchoman]

okay, sounds great. what happend anyway? dont tell me your house burned down....

 

[xazraelx]

okay, sounds great. what happend anyway? dont tell me your house burned down....

PM'ed.

And thanks to both of you, and everyone else in this thread.\

Edit: And I can't wait to be one of the first benchmarks for the 8800GT. Who knows, maybe my roomie and I will take his GTX out and put it in his system to see the EXACT difference...who would like that?

 

[panchoman]

well you can properly thank us all by hitting the thank button at the bottom of your posts

and of course im always glad to help when i can