Pirate Bay Working on New BitTorrent Protocol

zekrahminator · Nov 1, 2007

The administrators of BitTorrent are always working on side projects, however a certain project may just change the future of file-sharing: a new BitTorrent protocol. In an effort to curb the massive amount of spammers and anti-piracy agents hijacking torrents, Pirate Bay founder Bram Cohen recently announced the closed-source creation of a new BitTorrent protocol, which is currently nicknamed ".p2p", after the file extension the protocol will likely have. The protocol will be backwards compatible with the current .torrent protocol, which should make transitioning to the new protocol very easy. Other torrent sites, such as Mininova, already are backing and announcing support for the new protocol, which should come out in early 2008.

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[I.R.A]_FBi · Nov 1, 2007

i have noticed my torrents have lamed out recently .. cant get thru .... my ... linux distros

ktr · Nov 1, 2007

Fight the power with pirate power!

Homeless · Nov 1, 2007

i love the pirate bay

keakar · Nov 1, 2007

comcast has totally shut me down in louisiana, i tried 25 torrent sites for files with hundreds of seeds and i get 0 kb/s. sometimes at first i will get 1 or 2 kb/s for a minute then it goes to 0 kb/s.

my right to download legal files being shared by torrents has been terminated by big brother.

i have noticed however that Kazaa is full of files now (available files for downloading have gone up by 1,000%) so i guess the masses are going back to using sites like Kazaa and Limewire to share files since torrents are blocked

[I.R.A]_FBi · Nov 1, 2007

are you for real? re: kazaa?

keakar · Nov 1, 2007

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
are you for real? re: kazaa?

yes, try a search on Kazaa or Limewire and you wont believe how many hits you get. now i admit it is only some of the content you are used to seeing as torrents but it is growing quickly.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Nov 1, 2007

i noticed that my torrents may say 1000 seeds but i cant get parts of the file still ...

hat · Nov 1, 2007

Arr!! Thar be Treasarr!

wazzledoozle · Nov 1, 2007

Comcast blocks p2p in general, not just torrents.

If you are being affected by it, you wont be able to upload at all on any p2p application.

keakar · Nov 1, 2007

wazzledoozle said:
Comcast blocks p2p in general, not just torrents.

If you are being affected by it, you wont be able to upload at all on any p2p application.

ya they been killing the torrent sites one by one for a while now, i have been moving as they do it but they have them all blocked now. they must be blocking the websites and not the format because Limewire and Kazaa are at this time having no problems so far (knock on wood)

wazzledoozle · Nov 1, 2007

Kazaa and Limewire dont use as intricate a p2p protocol as bittorrent. So they may not be blocked at the moment, but comcast does have the tech to stop that too.

Read about how it works here-
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18323368-Comcast-is-using-Sandvine-to-manage-P2P-Connections

[I.R.A]_FBi · Nov 1, 2007

wazzledoozle said:
Comcast blocks p2p in general, not just torrents.

If you are being affected by it, you wont be able to upload at all on any p2p application.

i can upload, but no one to seed from ...

Ketxxx · Nov 1, 2007

hat said:
Arr!! Thar be Treasarr!

Conti027 · Nov 1, 2007

comcast blows i hate it, Cox was way better

[I.R.A]_FBi · Nov 1, 2007

Conti027 said:
comcast blows i hate it, Cox was way better

Cox?

Mussels · Nov 1, 2007

try using ares, its a P2P program that managed to get past the P2P blocking of a previous ISP of mine. I think it does torrents too, but i dont know if they get past or just their own protocol.

Wayward · Nov 1, 2007

zekrahminator said:
...Pirate Bay founder Bram Cohen recently announced...

First off, I hope that is a joke. Bram Cohen founded Bittorrent, not the Pirate Bay. :nutkick:

Secondly, if this is indeed true, it's about time. Comcast has a monopoly in my area, and we all know how they mess with bittorrent. I have often been a seed for linux distros, as well as other legal software, and now Comcast thinks it's okay to play traffic cop. Now I cannot seed anymore. I pay for an unlimited connection, and I'm certainly not getting it.

Perhaps a new closed protocol could circumvent their filters. Regardless, as soon as FIOS is installed in my area, I'm jumping ship.

Wile E · Nov 1, 2007

The Comcast cops haven't hit me yet. Currently seeding at 120KB/s, on a 384Kb line. :roll:

mandelore · Nov 1, 2007

hat said:
Arr!! Thar be Treasarr!

lool, that one made me laugh

TUngsten · Nov 1, 2007

Wayward said:
First off, I hope that is a joke. Bram Cohen founded Bittorrent, not the Pirate Bay.

Agreed, TPB is totally not related to Cohen.

Cox Communication (which I use) currently doesn't block any p2p, but a lot of the ISPs are starting to. I think it's really a bandwidth issue for them, not an anti-piracy mandate.

sheps999 · Nov 1, 2007

TUngsten said:
I think it's really a bandwidth issue for them, not an anti-piracy mandate.

Is bandwidth really that scarce? I thought there were hundreds of miles of dark (i.e. unlit) fibre in the US :banghead:

TUngsten · Nov 1, 2007

sheps999 said:
Is bandwidth really that scarce? I thought there were hundreds of miles of dark (i.e. unlit) fibre in the US

Well, I don't really know enough about the cable/dsl infrastructure to get into specifics. But I do believe that they don't have the capacity to handle every customer on the grid DL/ULing torrents 24/7

keakar · Nov 1, 2007

TUngsten said:
Well, I don't really know enough about the cable/dsl infrastructure to get into specifics. But I do believe that they don't have the capacity to handle every customer on the grid DL/ULing torrents 24/7

what it comes down to is that they are selling a service they cannot provide unless they spend $ to upgrade there infrastructure to handle the traffic that they say they can already handle, but they cant.

if you were a fly on the wall at their office you would likely hear this said:

what do we do know, we sold something we cant provide and everyone will soon find out about it and demand the service we sold them. i know, we will cut off legal traffic with the excuse that some of that traffic "might" be illegal, then we can continue without anyone knowing we are lying through our teeth about having all this bandwith available.

TUngsten · Nov 1, 2007

exactly

they can provide XXX MB/s speeds - but that represents a maximum speed IF the node you're on has a low activity.

If everyone on your node is DLing Spiderman3 via P2P, the network is going to slow to a crawl.

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