Vista64 or XP64?

Exceededgoku · Nov 18, 2007

Lol at the responses on here.. heavy photography doesn't rely on a good memory subsystem at all :rolleyes:

Using XP you might as well go back to 98SE, from my experience XP64 was unstable and driver support was shocking. I cannot say the same about Vista64, at all!

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

What I finally wound up doing...

Well I tried XP64. Because I already had a copy and didn't have to spend any more money I really really really wanted it to work. But too many things wouldn't or didn't and so...with heavy heart and soon after lighter wallet...I went to Sam's Club and bought a copy of Vista.

I kept my receipt...because I just KNEW this wasn’t going to work…but I figured what the hey I’ll give it a shot.
Taking some advice I had googled earlier in the week…during the install I only used 2gigs of RAM. Once Vista64 was installed, AND PATCHED (that’s important)…then I put in the other 6 gigs in for a total of 8.

So far…and at this point everything is installed, games, apps, yadda yadda…I have had almost no problems what so ever. In fact the only program that seems to be argumentative is iTunes (it says I can’t burn disks and to reinstall the program)…I strongly suspect updating the bios of my DVD burner might fix this.

All in all…I’m very pleasantly surprised. The IP35 Pro board I used is WONDERFUL! (3.9 out of 4 stars) The easiest motherboard to set-up I have ever used. My Q6600 OC’d to 3.0 with just two adjustments. The only reason I wouldn’t give it 4 out of 4 stars would be the odd way the sata controllers sit on the board. Because of the way it sits, if you go with a IP35…make sure to have a full and not a mid tower case. I’ll be getting a new case soon…my Antec Sonata Piano is just getting too cramped.

Anyway…so far I’m doing ok and liking Vista64 very much. I can tell no difference between it at the 32-bit version--with the exception that there is a X86 program files folder for 32-bit programs. Operations-wise it works great. Everything starts and runs like it's amped up on Red Bull and constantly drinking Starbucks. Vista is still way too expensive, and it really does love RAM, but right now RAM is cheap and like many have said…Vista-like it or not-is the future.

Thanks to all who commented for their help.
BigE

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

Exceededgoku said:
Lol at the responses on here.. heavy photography doesn't rely on a good memory subsystem at all
Using XP you might as well go back to 98SE, from my experience XP64 was unstable and driver support was shocking. I cannot say the same about Vista64, at all!

Start batch editing dozens of large format pictures, an SD card full at time, and you might change your mind.

Darknova · Nov 18, 2007

Exceededgoku said:
Lol at the responses on here.. heavy photography doesn't rely on a good memory subsystem at all
Using XP you might as well go back to 98SE, from my experience XP64 was unstable and driver support was shocking. I cannot say the same about Vista64, at all!

I really wish people would stop saying XP64 is unstable. It isn't anymore! SP2 fixed everything, and it uses the same drivers (the only difference is the inf file) as Vista, so driver support is as bad as Vista 64.

phanbuey · Nov 18, 2007

bigenuffumbrella said:
... iTunes (it says I can’t burn disks and to reinstall the program)…I strongly suspect updating the bios of my DVD burner might fix this...BigE

I got the exact same problem with iTunes on Vista x64... let me know if u fix it :toast:

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

phanbuey said:
I got the exact same problem with iTunes on Vista x64... let me know if u fix it

I'll post it in here if I find it.

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

Darknova said:
I really wish people would stop saying XP64 is unstable. It isn't anymore! SP2 fixed everything, and it uses the same drivers (the only difference is the inf file) as Vista, so driver support is as bad as Vista 64.

Dark, it's not that XP64 is unstable. With SP2, you're right...it's rock solid. But, and I can now say this from experience, the driver support is not as through as Vista's.

I know. It pains me (and my wallet) to say it, but it's true.

AsRock · Nov 18, 2007

X64 had no problems for the 18+ months i have used it. All though i don't use scanners or printers which is were a lot of people seem to have issue's.

Sure there's been issues but nothing not fixable thats for sure for me.

wiak · Nov 18, 2007

fitseries3 said:
XP64 is garbage. i used it for 6 months and i had to reinstall 4 times. it's not stable at all. I've tried it on several different computers and the same problems occurred. vista home premium 64bit is cheaper than xp64... unless your using a hacked version on xp64 which i don't recommend.

its not xp x64 that is unstable its your system, xp64 has exacly the same kernel as windows server 2003 x75 and its the most stable one

Vista x64 has little problems
now that SP1 comes soon it will be updated to better handle memory
64-bit is a MUST for more memory than 2GB anyway
i hope you system likes 8GB memory, not all system runs stable with that amount

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

AsRock said:
X64 had no problems for the 18+ months i have used it. All though i don't use scanners or printers which is were a lot of people seem to have issue's.

Sure there's been issues but nothing not fixable thats for sure for me.

My Dell 1710n laser works great. My Epson R280 is the same. Both of them had XP and Vista 64 drivers. So for me, printers were never an issue.

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

wiak said:
its not xp x64 that is unstable its your system, xp64 has exacly the same kernel as windows server 2003 x75 and its the most stable one

Vista x64 has little problems
now that SP1 comes soon it will be updated to better handle memory
64-bit is a MUST for more memory than 2GB anyway
i hope you system likes 8GB memory, not all system runs stable with that amount

Thank you wiak. It seems to LOVE IT! This Gskill memory (see my profile for the exact model number) absolutely rocks! I've read where people say during operation it's actually cool enough to touch...I'm not brave/dumb enough to try that. ;-)

For the amout of RAM you get the price and performance are just fantastic. I got mine at NewEgg if anyone is interested.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231145

wiak · Nov 18, 2007

wazzledoozle said:
Vista 64 will have better support going into the future. If you dont have any driver issues with it right now, there is no reason to use XP 64. If you dont like Aero, turn it off. Dont like the high memory usage? Turn off superfetch. After that you pretty much have XP 64/Server2k3 with better consumer-level support.

There is one big issue with Vista 64 though. You cant run unsigned drivers without pressing F8 and selecting unsigned driver mode at every boot. If you leave your PC on all the time, it isn't a problem.

+1

wiak · Nov 18, 2007

bigenuffumbrella said:
Thank you wiak. It seems to LOVE IT! This Gskill memory (see my profile for the exact model number) absolutely rocks! I've read where people say during operation it's actually cool enough to touch...I'm not brave/dumb enough to try that. ;-)

For the amout of RAM you get the price and performance are just fantastic. I got mine at NewEgg if anyone is interested.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231145

to bad am not in us ^^

bigenuffumbrella · Nov 18, 2007

wiak said:
+1

Yeah that is too bad man. :ohwell:

aarathi · Nov 21, 2007

Using XP you might as well go back to 98SE, from my experience XP64 was unstable and driver support was shocking. I cannot say the same about Vista64

wazzledoozle · Nov 21, 2007

The itunes issue stems from itunes not including a 64 bit driver for burning cd's.

Explained here.
64-bit driver here. (get Driver_Installer_AMD64_EM64T.exe)

phanbuey · Nov 21, 2007

Thanks!

yeah... it works!!! :rockout:

thanks!

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