The Journey Of A 5000+ BE!

[kyle2020]

Well, now that i can finally overclock my Black Edition with the new motherboard arriving, i decided to sit down and have a proper tinker this evening.

Ill keep this thread updated as much as possible, just to show you how you can push a Blackie . give you info if your considering buying one.

Any how, ill give you the lowdown on how we are going so far.

The CPU comes factory clocked @ 2.6Ghz, on a multiplier of 13x. After downloading CrystalCPUID so i could increase the voltage (gave me alot of headaches after BIOS only let me go to 1.35), heres how its going so far:

Multiplier of 14x (tried higher before voltage increase, got errors, might have another crack at it tonight)

FSB of 220

And a voltage of 1.39V.

I must say i am extremely impressed! i ran 3 and a half hours of orthos to check stability, and previous to this @ 2.6Ghz i was returning a 3Dmark result in the low 8000's - up to 10k in just one overclock! im very happy with this result.

I will post the next set of results once i have stability checked, maybe tonight, more likely tomorrow. Once my accelero arrives for my GT i will be able to take my GPU higher too.

My next purchase looks to be the Zalman 9700, purely because i was getting load temps with orthos of 60 degrees celcius, +/- 3 degrees, and i dont want to kill her before her time.

Keep subscribed! New results on the way!

 

[hat]

my load temp is 58c 1.4v on my 90nm windsor. I have the AC Freezer 64 Pro

 

[kyle2020]

my load temp is 58c 1.4v on my 90nm windsor. I have the AC Freezer 64 Pro

hmm . . . i have the 64 Alpine, but i have read in some reviews the 9700 can drop load temps in some cases by almost half - and at £35 for peace of mind and better cooling, im willing to splash out. What do you think of my overclock so far Hat?

 

[Silverel]

That's pretty hot for 1.39v. Definitely go for the Zalman. I've actually got a Thermaltake TMG A2 on top of mine.

 

[hat]

no go for a xigmatek
the only zalman 9700 on newegg is $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003
half as expensive and cools better you can get them to send you a bolt-thru mount kit for free

your oc is pretty good I think though, I can only get 2.9 out of mine on 1.4v

 

[cdawall]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58359

thats mine

i run 14.5x231 1.5v

 

[sneekypeet]

no go for a xigmatek

I agree, I hate to say it but Zalmans are almost outdated now. Concidering what the Xig 1283's are doing.

Comming from a 9500 myself, yes its a bit smaller, but Zalmans get saturated to easy with heat IMHO and I have yet to see the same with my Xig!

 

[CrackerJack]

Like many people will tell you, every chip is different. But here's my settings and what i've tested

Using Xigmatek with MX-2

15*200 1.250 100% stable core1 21c core2 24c idle and 41c load
15*230 1.350 100% stable core1 23c core2 25c idle and 45c load
16*200 1.375 100% stable core1 25c core2 29c idle and 48c load

I bench at 16*200, I get higher scores with this settings. Using 3dmark series.
hope this helps some

 

[kyle2020]

ill have to look this xigmatek up - anyone drop me a model name?

*update*

Just increased my voltage to 1.4V, and my FSB to 225 and am now running at 3.15 Ghz - about to stress test .

i also, luckily enough, discovered the 20cm top fan on my antec was obstructed by a loose 4 pin connector and wasnt spinning - freed that up, taken my front 2 intakes to medium speed, also my exhaust to medium, and hopefully that will aid some more cooling.

Hopefully put 3dmark results on later if stressing goes ok . . . if not, night all!

 

[CrackerJack]

ill have to look this xigmatek up - anyone drop me a model name?

*update*

Just increased my voltage to 1.4V, and my FSB to 225 and am now running at 3.15 Ghz - about to stress test .

i also, luckily enough, discovered the 20cm top fan on my antec was obstructed by a loose 4 pin connector and wasnt spinning - freed that up, taken my front 2 intakes to medium speed, also my exhaust to medium, and hopefully that will aid some more cooling.

Hopefully put 3dmark results on later if stressing goes ok . . . if not, night all!

The model number is in my specs

 

[kyle2020]

The model number is in my specs

cheers, having a look now

 

[FatForester]

I agree, I hate to say it but Zalmans are almost outdated now. Concidering what the Xig 1283's are doing.

Comming from a 9500 myself, yes its a bit smaller, but Zalmans get saturated to easy with heat IMHO and I have yet to see the same with my Xig!

I'm still a Zalman guy, but the Xig's definitely cool better. My e2180 has never gotten hot enough, but anything around 125-140 watts and the Zalmans just can't dissipate the heat.

 

[kyle2020]

I'm still a Zalman guy, but the Xig's definitely cool better. My e2180 has never gotten hot enough, but anything around 125-140 watts and the Zalmans just can't dissipate the heat.

yeah, unfortunately for me though the xigmatek might just be too tall for my case so that might be a no - go. ill do some proper measurements tomorrow.

*update*

took the multiplier up to 14.5x @ 1.4V and got a BSOD upon boot, so i think any higher than 14x for me isnt realistic, which im upset about. looks like FSB increases from now on. Oh well

 

[sneekypeet]

I have both the case and the cooler...I will measure from the mobo to the top of the cooler and the mobo to the door of my 900!

 

[kyle2020]

I have both the case and the cooler...I will measure from the mobo to the top of the cooler and the mobo to the door of my 900!

please do! save me money if it fits!

*update*

everything seems stable so far, going to do a 3dmark run later - will keep you all posted.

 

[hat]

About the AC64 Alpine.
I would only get that if my stock cooler blew up and I wasn't overclocking...

I was considering getting the Alpine and saving a couple bucks, glad I went with the Freezer now.

 

[sneekypeet]

From my measuring I got that the Xig from the mobo to the cooper heatppe tips is just under 6 3/4". Now going to the 900...from mobo to inside of the rolled back edge of the case it is a solid 6 3/4" and an extra 1/4" till you hit the inside of the door(for a total of 7" clearance in the 900).

The door fan idea is out and the plastic "clips" to hold one in may need removed. You could do as I did and remove the fan side plexi all together. Holding the mesh in is as simple as washers or hot glue. Just be careful not to screw the screws through the plactic caps on the outside!

 

[kyle2020]

From my measuring I got that the Xig from the mobo to the cooper heatppe tips is just under 6 3/4". Now going to the 900...from mobo to inside of the rolled back edge of the case it is a solid 6 3/4" and an extra 1/4" till you hit the inside of the door(for a total of 7" clearance in the 900).

The door fan idea is out and the plastic "clips" to hold one in may need removed. You could do as I did and remove the fan side plexi all together. Holding the mesh in is as simple as washers or hot glue. Just be careful not to screw the screws through the plactic caps on the outside!

haha! i think ill be sticking with the zalman then, dont want to be modding my case just yet

 

[sneekypeet]

haha! i think ill be sticking with the zalman then, dont want to be modding my case just yet

I wouldn't really say the removal of the inner panel is modding...I say more like a 2 out of 10 in the skill scale. If you can use a screwdriver, get a hold of some washers, and use common sense, I say it's doable. Take the door off and see...BTW, hugely improved the airflow with just mesh in that part of the door!!!

 

[Solaris17]

i dont think your a t a bottleneck kyle...i ran my 6400BE at like 1.55 to get 3.4ghz...AMD's unlike intel in my experiances need voltage for almost every bump were as intel wil go go and go and then you need high voltage almost immedietely.

glad that mobo is working out for ya though!!! what r u at now?

 

[kyle2020]

i dont think your a t a bottleneck kyle...i ran my 6400BE at like 1.55 to get 3.4ghz...AMD's unlike intel in my experiances need voltage for almost every bump were as intel wil go go and go and then you need high voltage almost immedietely.

glad that mobo is working out for ya though!!! what r u at now?

thats the problem - i cant go higher than 1.4V (unless anyone can suggest a program other than crystalCPUID to manually set voltages seeing as bios only lets me go to 1.35 anyway) and also at 225 fsb im getting instability.

Feeling disheartened already testing @ 223 fsb, and i cant go any higher than 14x multiplier either

But besides that solaris, its running as smooth and stable as anything! i really like ASUS, will use them in the future

 

[sneekypeet]

thats the problem - i cant go higher than 1.4V (unless anyone can suggest a program other than crystalCPUID to manually set voltages seeing as bios only lets me go to 1.35 anyway) and also at 225 fsb im getting instability.

Feeling disheartened already testing @ 223 fsb, and i cant go any higher than 14x multiplier either

But besides that solaris, its running as smooth and stable as anything! i really like ASUS, will use them in the future

What about some sort of pencil mod to use to just raise stock voltages? Then if you need to swap CPU's or you realize its too much, a little alcohol and its all gone!

 

[kyle2020]

What about some sort of pencil mod to use to just raise stock voltages? Then if you need to swap CPU's or you realize its too much, a little alcohol and its all gone!

"pencil mod"? explain please?

 

[kyle2020]

@ sneeky - just read up on it, im not liking the sound of it. Dont want to be buying a new proc a month later, but thanks for the suggestion anyone know of any voltage setting programs?

 

[sneekypeet]

@ sneeky - just read up on it, im not liking the sound of it. Dont want to be buying a new proc a month later, but thanks for the suggestion anyone know of any voltage setting programs?

You must have read about some really bad experiences...Ive pencil modded a few mobo's and graphics cards, and when done right, it causes no harm. Rather they remedy issues such as low core voltage, and Vdroop!

I do agree this is a bit tougher than pulling out the plexi on a case door, but in reality is drawing with a pencil and reading numbers on a display!