Next-gen NVIDIA GeForce Specifications Unveiled

[farlex85]

Right, it's back to discussing about two companies that are pregnant and of whose baby is better. Like babies, things look better after birth, scans and graphs are always blurry.

Probably the best analogy of the situation I've heard.

 

[DarkMatter]

Right, it's back to discussing about two companies that are pregnant and of whose baby is better. Like babies, things look better after birth, scans and graphs are always blurry.

Yup, but babies are usually pretty similar to their brothers if they come from the same father.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Can't use the tech porn sentence after all this talk of babies...

... Pictures, more information?

 

[btarunr]

Bah, would NVidia lose millions if they let people in on their upcoming products and release a proper picture? Why are they acting so sissy?

 

[Regman12]

Tesla C870 Gpu

Can the new cards be based on this, tesla C870 Specs, Price 1100. plus, Online at Nvdiva about $680. US

 

[btarunr]

Can the new cards be based on this, tesla C870 Specs, Price 1100. plus, Online at Nvdiva about $680. US

It's the other way round. C870 is a derivative of G80.

 

[Haytch]

Bah, would NVidia lose millions if they let people in on their upcoming products and release a proper picture? Why are they acting so sissy?

Yep, something like that could mean the end of a more dominant company in graphics card market. Seems like Nvidia is struggling or holding back, either way, to reveal their plans would compromise the advantage they currently have and allow competitors to take advantage.

 

[btarunr]

Yep, something like that could mean the end of a more dominant company in graphics card market. Seems like Nvidia is struggling or holding back, either way, to reveal their plans would compromise the advantage they currently have and allow competitors to take advantage.

What advantage? We already know what each company has in store for us, what's the big deal in letting out proper pictures? It's like big automobile companies showcase their upcoming products months before release and everyone knows what car is about to come out.

I'm talking about pictures and of how certain tech-websites are being bitchy in letting out only tiny/monochrome pics of the card and PCB, as if when it comes out everyone's going to be "ZOMG Buyy eettt!!!1" no, everyone knows it's a high-end thing and only a minority of the buyers would plan to buy it.

 

[sethk]

Realistically, companies make last minute changes to clock speeds through BIOS updates and adjust pricing to provide a compelling price / performance situation for each card, especially when the competing launches are so close to each other.

It's sad, but both companies hope to have a *really* compelling advantage in price / performance during the first review phase (which is done right before launch) because these are the reviews read by a majority of early adopters, and whatever you do afterwards to adjust, that first judgement has a huge impact on sales.

So why hold your cards so close to your chest? It's because you are afraid your competitor will somehow use this information to adjust their launch to make their competing card more ... competitive. If there was no immediate competition and you were just competing against your own old cards, then the hype would flow well in advance.

 

[newconroer]

Are the GT200 and R700 new gpu's or not?
Well the basic designs aren't. The actual gpu's are new ofcourse.

History:
R300 => R420 => R520
ATI used the basic R300 design from august 2002 until R600 was released (may 2007 but should have been on the market 6 months earlier without delay).

NV40 => G70
nVidia used NV40 technology from april 2004 until november 2006.

So it's quiet common to use certain technology for a couple generations. This will be even more profound with current generation of gpu's because of the increased complexity of unified shaders.
It takes 2 to 3 years to design a gpu like the R300, NV40, R600 or G80. After that you get the usual updates. Even a process shrink, let's say 65nm to 45nm, takes almost a year without even touching the design. These companies manage to hide this time because they have multiple design teams working in parallel.
The same thing happens with cpu's. Look at K8 and K10. Look at Conroe and Penryn.
Expect really new architectures from ATI and nVidia somewhere in 2009, maybe even later and they will be DX11.

Exactly! People seem to forget that the G80 was revolutionary in it's architecture. Then comes along the G92 and they are up in arms that it's not AS revolutionary as the G80. Well wth did they expect, it was only one year later.

For the majority of games on the market, a single top end (and very affordable now) Nvidia card, will lay waste. Why must we see the introduction of a brand new architecture? So we can load up Fraps and jerk-off to the sight of a solid 150fps 24/7?

Everything Nvidia(and in some ways, ATi) has done since the G80, has been purposeful it seems - The GT, the new GTS, the 9800 series - They were simply tuning, tweaking and slight upgrading their product line up, to ensure two things : Market dominance, and 'keeping with the times/a.k.a. keeping their generic consumer base.'

They accomplished both with ease. Now nearly two years after G80, we see a new card to emerge that's apparently going to be fairly impressive. Even if it's not a new architecture,

W H O C A R E S !?!?!?

 

[graphicsHorse]

Even S3 has implemented DX10.1

And yes it's an important feature that improves AA performance drastically if implemented.
Sooner or later (that is within 6 months) every DX10 game will have this 10.1 patch.
So the G200 series won't be lasting as long as the 8800 series did.

Read this: (+ reader comments below the article too)
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/16/why-dx10-matters

"DX10.1 brings the ability to read those sub-samples to the party via MSBRW. To the end user, this means that once DX10.1 hits, you can click the AA button on your shiny new game and have it actually do something. This is hugely important."

 

[HTC]

Found this in a Portuguese site ...

Geforce GTX 280 runs fast Physics

Cool games in late 2008

Geforce GTX 280 and 260 will run some great physics. Nvidia has already implemented this in some soon-to-come games and it showcases some cool demos.

The hot topic is the one about the cool physics in the game that involves American football that is supposed to ship later this year, where you can see thousands of fans with its individual physics and some realistic bone crushing in this American football match.

As Nvidia has The Way it’s meant to be p(l)ayed and as Nvidia’s VP of this knows how to “support” the publishers, Nvidia really has a strong chance to make a big deal out of it. We just hope that there isn’t any Physics-related instruction in Direct 10.1, since that would mean trouble.

The new graphics demo running on the gtx 260


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9gwJwCNvT8

Source: PCDig@

 

[CDdude55]

Anyone know the estamted price to the Geforce GTX 260? If its to much i will just buy a 8 series card then.